2020 NFL Playoffs - Divisional round

threeball · 17-01-2021 3:11am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I know and he kicks there eight weeks out of 16 not every week because no team plays 16 home games.

So he does do any practice kicking on the weeks he's playing away from home? No wonder he's missing kicks

Itssoeasy · 17-01-2021 3:11am

Okay the wind was blowing with tucker going by the flags on the top of posts behind him and he still doinked it again.

The_Honeybadger · 17-01-2021 3:12am

Was hoping for a bit of a shootout here. Disappointing so far but I think both defences will soften as adjustments are made.

Tucker has not looked right for a few weeks, injury? You’d put your lottery winnings on him to nail those normally

Itssoeasy · 17-01-2021 3:13am

threeball wrote: »

So he does do any practice kicking on the weeks he's playing away from home? No wonder he's missing kicks

Of course he does practice but unless the bills are unlike most teams in the league they don’t hold practice in their home stadiums during the season. I don’t know which team you support but you are getting overly defensive over the bills kicker.

BrentMused · 17-01-2021 3:15am

I certainly wouldn't be sounding the death knell for Tucker just yet, but that's 6 misses in 7 games for him now.

So many good kickers have been lights out and then out of nowhere had a couple of big misses and that's been all she wrote.

At the very least it's concerning.

Realt Dearg Sec · 17-01-2021 3:17am

I must say I'm shocked how many stupid mistakes there are tonight, between the kickers and botched snaps on both teams and just general lack of flow to what the teams are doing. The Packers would eat either of these teams for breakfast. Hope the Chiefs show something a little more promising.

The_Honeybadger · 17-01-2021 3:18am

BrentMused wrote: »

I certainly wouldn't be sounding the death knell for Tucker just yet, but that's 6 misses in 7 games for him now.

So many good kickers have been lights out and then out of nowhere had a couple of big misses and that's been all she wrote.

At the very least it's concerning.

Could be playing through something. I’d expect him to be back to himself next season at latest.

BrentMused · 17-01-2021 3:18am

Looks like the Ravens might finally have learned that rushing up the middle is not going to make a difference to Allen as he will just scramble to the outside.

The pressure needs to be coming off the edge to impact him.

BrentMused · 17-01-2021 3:46am

Bills fans have been awesome.

If you didn't know any different, you would think the place was at full capacity!

Itssoeasy · 17-01-2021 3:47am

Ravens FG so 3-3 at the half. I’m off to bed do enjoy the second half.

Foxtrol · 17-01-2021 3:52am

threeball wrote: »

My main worry for the Chiefs is their inability to close out games. Even games where they were blowing away the opposition they end up hanging on in the end to win by a score. Eventually you'll get caught even if you are obviously better than everyone else. Maybe they step it up tomorrow. If they were playing anyone but the browns I think they could have been in serious bother.

I get your point, to me they've been toying with teams. Playing passive on both sides of the ball when up. Despite being within one score they didn't seem like they were struggling and scraping their way to wins, like for example the Seahawks seem to do every single year. Obviously a risk in the playoffs but I can see them upping their game now.

Paleface wrote: »

.... almost seems like their defence has declined....

Are we talking about the same Chiefs defense that went significantly behind in every game in the playoffs last year?

No point in dragging this out, we'll see how they look tomorrow. For now I stand by my disagreement that the odds at this stage are 'massively' against them and the bookies are on my side with them being also the bookies favourites to repeat.

BonnieSituation · 17-01-2021 3:57am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Ravens FG so 3-3 at the half. I’m off to bed do enjoy the second half.

You say this every week and then slink back!

17-01-2021 4:24am

Wow. Is it actually happening?

adrian522 · 17-01-2021 4:27am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Wow. Is it actually happening?

Is it that surprising?

17-01-2021 4:41am

Well yeah, it's still the Bills. :pac:

adrian522 · 17-01-2021 4:45am

Bills are good and with Lamar being so limited as a passer....

The_Honeybadger · 17-01-2021 4:52am

Killer that Lamar is out, game over surely

Say Your Number · 17-01-2021 4:52am

Sliding doors moment.

BrentMused · 17-01-2021 4:53am

Well done to the Bills. The far better team and that was a masterclass in coaching from Frazier especially who embarrassed his counterpart(s) throughout.

All things considered with that season I'd be happy enough with a playoff trip and a win during same if I were the Ravens. It was a bit of a disaster all round with the COVID mess and long losing streak.

Again I'll say that one big problem for Baltimore when they get to this level is that 90% of the time their opponents are going to have at least one elite receiver.

They haven't had one for a long, long time now and it is extremely debilitating when you get to the playoffs.

It's easier said than done and it's not as if they haven't tried especially in more recent years, but for example every team left in the playoffs all have at least one WR who is far superior to anything they have: Bills (Diggs), Browns (Beckham/Landry), Buccs (Evans), Packers (Adams), Chiefs (Hill), Saints (Thomas).

I would also be having a serious look at moving on from Greg Roman and pass game coordinator David Culley. Jackson is far from perfect, but he is more than good enough to win with and is not helped in any way by the offensive scheme.

adrian522 · 17-01-2021 5:15am

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:rolleyes:

The_Honeybadger · 17-01-2021 5:46am

BrentMused wrote: »

Well done to the Bills. The far better team and that was a masterclass in coaching from Frazier especially who embarrassed his counterpart(s) throughout.

All things considered with that season I'd be happy enough with a playoff trip and a win during same if I were the Ravens. It was a bit of a disaster all round with the COVID mess and long losing streak.

Again I'll say that one big problem for Baltimore when they get to this level is that 90% of the time their opponents are going to have at least one elite receiver.

They haven't had one for a long, long time now and it is extremely debilitating when you get to the playoffs.

It's easier said than done and it's not as if they haven't tried especially in more recent years, but for example every team left in the playoffs all have at least one WR who is far superior to anything they have: Bills (Diggs), Browns (Beckham/Landry), Buccs (Evans), Packers (Adams), Chiefs (Hill), Saints (Thomas).

I would also be having a serious look at moving on from Greg Roman and pass game coordinator David Culley. Jackson is far from perfect, but he is more than good enough to win with and is not helped in any way by the offensive scheme.

While I agree they need a big time receiver I think that’s skirting around the real issue. Lamar cannot take over games with his arm the way Mahomes, Rodgers or Brady can. He is a phenomenal player in his own right but he is not a championship QB. 3 points tonight is a big worry for any team with super bowl ambitions in the near future.

I can’t ever see him winning out a playoff run and Super Bowl, especially after they pay him and the talent around him suffers for it. I know Lamar went off injured tonight but they were pretty much buried at that point.

Dodge · 17-01-2021 5:55am

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

I know Lamar went off injured tonight but they were pretty much buried at that point.

To be fair, if that end zone pick 6 goes the other way then they’re probably level. Bad pick but it happens them all

2 poor games tonight

StevenToast · 17-01-2021 8:38am

Cmon THE BILLS!

threeball · 17-01-2021 9:34am

Lamar is a below average QB with immense speed and is always going to struggle when it gets to the playoffs. The defences are too good to allow him pick up huge yardage on the ground and his lack of aerial threat only makes the situation worse. He ends up taking away his own RB's run game too. When he scrambles he scrambles to run not to pass his way out of problems, ends up getting sacked a couple of times and once they go 3rd and long they're then in big trouble. They may need to rethink their whole strategy or every year will feel like groundhog day.

The_Kew_Tour · 17-01-2021 9:37am

I'm glad I had the common sense to go to bed before half time. Truly awful stuff, but Bills won't care and good for them.

Itssoeasy · 17-01-2021 10:20am

BonnieSituation wrote: »

You say this every week and then slink back!

Well this week I meant it and stuck to it.

Itssoeasy · 17-01-2021 3:10pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I'm glad I had the common sense to go to bed before half time. Truly awful stuff, but Bills won't care and good for them.

I am too. I checked the score this morning and it confirmed my decision.

The browns and chiefs game could be a classic.

threeball · 17-01-2021 8:45pm

Chiefs and Saints to get it done tonight. The Saints simply can't get the rotten calls they got the last two years you'd have to think.

Mr. Guappa · 17-01-2021 9:16pm

Pretty ominous opening drive there from The Chiefs. Missed the XP at least.

MileHighGuy · 17-01-2021 9:38pm

Only way I see the Browns can win this is if they get a couple of tds from defense or special teams....basically fluke-type plays.

Chiefs just better in every facet.

17-01-2021 9:42pm

Chiefs offence is too good.

Mahomes
Hill
Bell
Hardman
Kelce

Lethal.

Panrich · 17-01-2021 9:54pm

Baker didn't get much help on that last series. A holding penalty on a big gain and two drops won't get it done against the chiefs.

MileHighGuy · 17-01-2021 9:54pm

What a huge holding call, instead of 1st and 10 from the kc27, they end up punting from their own 38.

Thats the type of mistake that the Browns can't afford.

Chubb with the 2 drops that might have made it a manageable 3rd down as well.

threeball · 17-01-2021 9:58pm

Only caveat is that the Chiefs have done this on a number of occasions over the last few weeks then they took their foot of the gas. If the chiefs play to their potential theyre unstoppable

Foxtrol · 17-01-2021 10:17pm

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

While I agree they need a big time receiver I think that’s skirting around the real issue. Lamar cannot take over games with his arm the way Mahomes, Rodgers or Brady can. He is a phenomenal player in his own right but he is not a championship QB. 3 points tonight is a big worry for any team with super bowl ambitions in the near future.

I can’t ever see him winning out a playoff run and Super Bowl, especially after they pay him and the talent around him suffers for it. I know Lamar went off injured tonight but they were pretty much buried at that point.

Sure Lamar can't take over games with his arm like those 3 but few can, seeing as those will go down in history as being in the discussion as the GOAT.

I don't see how people can push scheme and receiver talent as being side issues. In some cases it seems like it is still some confirmation bias from when he was drafted. I saw nothing last night or for most of the season that stresses out defense to take focus away from stopping Lamar running. The routes were extremely basic and no one was capable of getting close to open. I'm not sure what is being expected from Lamar, most QBs would struggle especially when you add their OL issues and a number of stupid mistakes.

As for today's game we're right on the edge of this being a blowout. Really disappointing divisional weekend of games so far (most of the playoff games have been poor so far).

Itssoeasy · 17-01-2021 10:19pm

The browns need to end the half with a TD.

paulie21 · 17-01-2021 10:20pm

Ah that's hard luck for the Browns

Mr. Guappa · 17-01-2021 10:20pm

Ah jeez.

Itssoeasy · 17-01-2021 10:20pm

Oh you need to hold onto the ball.

Kev8360 · 17-01-2021 10:21pm

Great play be Sorensen - absolute sickener for Cleveland

Itssoeasy · 17-01-2021 10:21pm

paulie21 wrote: »

Ah that's hard luck for the Browns

Should have wrapped up the ball and taken the hit and see where would have been down. There was time left in the half.

17-01-2021 10:21pm

Criminal from Higgins. Secure the football.

LuckyGent88 · 17-01-2021 10:21pm

What an enormous play. Huge in the context of the game. What Mahomes go up the other way and get some points now with plenty of time on the clock.

paulie21 · 17-01-2021 10:22pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Should have wrapped up the ball and taken the hit and see where would have been down. There was time left in the half.

I know but hard to take away the instinct of reaching for the pylon

MileHighGuy · 17-01-2021 10:23pm

Ah Fer Fecks sake. Give up Cleveland.

Instead of 1st and goal and be down 16-10, KC might score to go up further, and get the ball to start the 3rd.

Browns have been decent and deserve to be closer.

hynesie08 · 17-01-2021 10:23pm

You can't moan an offensive player tried to score, it's literally the point of the game....

MileHighGuy · 17-01-2021 10:23pm

If that happened anywhere else on the field I reckon helmet to helmet would've been called.

paulie21 · 17-01-2021 10:23pm

Defender led with the crown of the helmet too

Panrich · 17-01-2021 10:24pm

Should have been illegal use of the helmet

Faugheen · 17-01-2021 10:24pm

That should be a helmet to helmet call. That’s a joke.

Mahomes and KC getting away with it again.

2020 NFL Playoffs - Divisional round

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