Will you rejoin your club for next year

slingerz · 25-01-2021 9:20pm

Unsure about rejoining to be honest. Club in lockdown and uncertainty around reopening. I’m in no rush to pay my sub put it that way

GreeBo · 26-01-2021 10:44am

redzerdrog wrote: »

To be honest I know it selfish but I'd take a price increase if it freed up some extra space on the timesheet

I think its perfectly valid, you wouldnt join a gym if you could never get on any equipment. People have been paying a premium for premium access to things for ever, I dont see why golf is any different!

GreeBo · 26-01-2021 10:55am

slingerz wrote: »

Unsure about rejoining to be honest. Club in lockdown and uncertainty around reopening. I’m in no rush to pay my sub put it that way

I guess the issue there is that it could become a self fulfilling prophecy, if no one rejoins because they are worried it wont reopen, then it wont reopen.

Hard to know what to do really!

ger664 · 26-01-2021 11:12am

Paid my fees in full yesterday. Have not been finically hit by covid so the cost is not an issue for me personally.

I understand that others are not so fortunate but maybe try and trash out some sort of payment plan or deferral of their membership rather then just letting it lapse due to non payment.

I probably wont get full value for my membership this year as it looks like April before we return but its that or everyone takes the line of not paying subs and the club ceases to exist entirely.

Other clubs would then become oversubscribed with most likely added cost of joining fees due to demand.

GreeBo · 26-01-2021 11:15am

GreeBo wrote: »

I guess the issue there is that it could become a self fulfilling prophecy, if no one rejoins because they are worried it wont reopen, then it wont reopen.

Hard to know what to do really!

Might be an idea to get an EGM where the club can announce how many members have committed (not necessarily paid) to rejoining.

If people who are unsure see that most other people are going to rejoin then that might help them decide?

BigChap1759 · 26-01-2021 11:46am

Personally I think there’s a world of difference between a members owned club and a commercial concern. The latter are providing a service and I have an issue paying for a service I’m not receiving. They can pretend it’s a “club” as much as they like but it is run solely for profit, not fir the benefit of the members and so correspondingly, like any business, need to take losses on the chin. If I was in a member owned club I wouldn’t have an issue paying up in full.

Green Peter · 26-01-2021 8:46pm

frink wrote: »

I'm taking a Leave of Absence from my club for 12 months. I understand that my GUI handicap gets suspended for this period.

Is there anything stopping me from joining somewhere else as a distance member to maintain this

You means like half the country joining a certain club in Tipperary for SFA while the rest of us try and keep our clubs afloat. Meanwhile the GUI look the other way because they get their poll tax anyway.

frink · 26-01-2021 9:06pm

Green Peter wrote: »

You means like half the country joining a certain club in Tipperary for SFA while the rest of us try and keep our clubs afloat. Meanwhile the GUI look the other way because they get their poll tax anyway.

I work in the Aviation Industry so I am more concerned about keeping myself and my family afloat for the next 12 months to be honest.

Green Peter · 27-01-2021 12:40am

frink wrote: »

I work in the Aviation Industry so I am more concerned about keeping myself and my family afloat for the next 12 months to be honest.

I don't blame you so much. I blame to GUI for letting clubs down by not clamping down on it. I know plenty with the ability to pay membership locally who take this option. Then they scramble for every opportunity to play the local course in Am Ams or society outings. I think it's wrong and worse that the GUI allow it.

rickis tache · 27-01-2021 10:18am

My last club had announced last November a reduction in fees from 990 to 790 for 2021 then said in a local paper once the club opens again it will have a fee of 1350 for 12 months golf.

benny79 · 27-01-2021 5:29pm

rickis tache wrote: »

My last club had announced last November a reduction in fees from 990 to 790 for 2021 then said in a local paper once the club opens again it will have a fee of 1350 for 12 months golf.

Probably applies for new members no?

Golfhead65 · 27-01-2021 6:41pm

rickis tache wrote: »

My last club had announced last November a reduction in fees from 990 to 790 for 2021 then said in a local paper once the club opens again it will have a fee of 1350 for 12 months golf.

That's not a bad marketing ploy, Pay upfront 790 now or pay 1350 when it opens up, I'd congratulate your club for that

Green Peter · 27-01-2021 6:58pm

Golfhead65 wrote: »

That's not a bad marketing ploy, Pay upfront 790 now or pay 1350 when it opens up, I'd congratulate your club for that

I must be a glass half empty type of guy. I think many will choose to pay neither based on the 1350. Don't see how that's any sort of good marketing ploy.

rickis tache · 27-01-2021 7:29pm

benny79 wrote: »

Probably applies for new members no?

It'll be that for new members for 12 months but current members will pay 790 for this year then 1350 next year.

gary29428 · 27-01-2021 9:27pm

rickis tache wrote: »

My last club had announced last November a reduction in fees from 990 to 790 for 2021 then said in a local paper once the club opens again it will have a fee of 1350 for 12 months golf.

Think I seen that...Galway Bay???

bailey99 · 28-01-2021 1:07am

So save 200 this year and pay extra 360 next year. Am I missing something? That's fairly stupid no???

Rikand · 28-01-2021 1:19am

Seve OB wrote: »

this is quite easy to say when you are in a country club that charges a few hundred per year.

would you pay a couple of grand in the zombie apocalypse?

Our membership is about a grand a year now and we definitely dont get all the kickbacks that you guys get in Castleknock

And of course I would pay it. Won't be long before the zombies get me too so I might as well enjoy what money I have until I'm gone

GreeBo · 29-01-2021 12:46pm

bailey99 wrote: »

So save 200 this year and pay extra 360 next year. Am I missing something? That's fairly stupid no???

Is it not just that the overall sub will be increasing by 360, but if you pay now you get a year at the lower price?
I dont get whats stupid about that?:o

rickis tache · 30-01-2021 12:12pm

GreeBo wrote: »

Is it not just that the overall sub will be increasing by 360, but if you pay now you get a year at the lower price?
I dont get whats stupid about that?:o

No. You pay 790 for the rest of 2021 if your currently a member. All new members joining from Monday pay 1350 for 12 months membership. All current members will pay 1350 in Jan 2022.

Ollieboy · 30-01-2021 1:36pm

rickis tache wrote: »

No. You pay 790 for the rest of 2021 if your currently a member. All new members joining from Monday pay 1350 for 12 months membership. All current members will pay 1350 in Jan 2022.

Going from 990 to 1350 is a big jump in annual subs.

rickis tache · 30-01-2021 1:58pm

Ollieboy wrote: »

Going from 990 to 1350 is a big jump in annual subs.

Sure is. When we paid 990 in 2019 with got a years membership, 4 to 8 green fees depending on when you paid full membership, 40 euro bar/restaurant credit and driving range voucher(can't remember value but something like 30euro). Also reciprocal playing in 2 courses up the country.
Free green fees gone, bar credit gone, driving range voucher gone.

Green Peter · 31-01-2021 12:38am

rickis tache wrote: »

Sure is. When we paid 990 in 2019 with got a years membership, 4 to 8 green fees depending on when you paid full membership, 40 euro bar/restaurant credit and driving range voucher(can't remember value but something like 30euro). Also reciprocal playing in 2 courses up the country.
Free green fees gone, bar credit gone, driving range voucher gone.

Many members will be gone methinks

Ollieboy · 31-01-2021 1:19am

Green Peter wrote: »

Many members will be gone methinks

If they lose 30% they would still be better off and can sell more rounds for green fees with the extra space on timesheet.

Sometimes higher fees can be more profitable.

Basically less rounds and higher price per round but risky mistake if you get it wrong.

rickis tache · 31-01-2021 8:57am

Ollieboy wrote: »

If they lose 30% they would still be better off and can sell more rounds for green fees with the extra space on timesheet.

Sometimes higher fees can be more profitable.

Basically less rounds and higher price per round but risky mistake if you get it wrong.

I believe that that's the goal.

Green Peter · 31-01-2021 11:33am

rickis tache wrote: »

I believe that that's the goal.

It's a gamble, many clubs also went down the route of trying various types of memberships to entice members in (age, distance, country etc) and created confusion and pissed off long-term full members paying full whack. I saw it happen in my own club and it resulted in people abusing it and haggling with management who cut corners and it backfired in the long run. These members generally weren't loyal and moved on (Club hoppers). On top of that some of the handicaps given to them were ridiculous and caused more hassle again with members and made a joke of competitions. I think clubs need to set a reasonable fee for what they have and stick to it and try and find value for members and be seen to be fair to all members. I know it's easier said than done.

tayto lover · 31-01-2021 4:50pm

A bit off topic but did many clubs do anything for members due to them missing out on golf as a result of the Covid closures?

I see some members of my club looking for a reduction in fees this year but I can’t see that happening in all honesty.

Golfhead65 · 31-01-2021 6:03pm

tayto lover wrote: »

A bit off topic but did many clubs do anything for members due to them missing out on golf as a result of the Covid closures?

I see some members of my club looking for a reduction in fees this year but I can’t see that happening in all honesty.

Have you been living under a rock or do you just want to stir things up, Check out this and other threads before asking a repetitive question

tayto lover · 31-01-2021 6:12pm

Golfhead65 wrote: »

Have you been living under a rock or do you just want to stir things up, Check out this and other threads before asking a repetitive question

Stir what up?
Someone **** in your cornflakes?

If I’d seen it answered before I obviously wouldn’t ask.

Keano · 31-01-2021 6:25pm

Golfhead65 wrote: »

Have you been living under a rock or do you just want to stir things up, Check out this and other threads before asking a repetitive question

No need to have a pop or be this aggressive.

Bill Ponderosa · 31-01-2021 6:53pm

Our subs aren't due until March so won't know until then.

Golfhead65 · 31-01-2021 7:18pm

Keano wrote: »

No need to have a pop or be this aggressive.

Have you something against me.. Can't see the problem

Mac_Lad71 · 31-01-2021 11:53pm

On a slightly different note.. I have a gui voucher that I won as a prize at my club that is due to expire next week. (it was valid for six months)

I had intended to use it against my sub renewal but can't now with course closed.

Does anybody know of any retail outlets currently open in cork area that accept them?

Green Peter · 01-02-2021 12:10am

Mac_Lad71 wrote: »

On a slightly different note.. I have a gui voucher that I won as a prize at my club that is due to expire next week. (it was valid for six months)

I had intended to use it against my sub renewal but can't now with course closed.

Does anybody know of any retail outlets currently open in cork area that accept them?

I would expect vouchers to be honoured. Especially GUI vouchers. Email GUI and they will probably re issue.

hurikane · 01-02-2021 1:23am

Mac_Lad71 wrote: »

On a slightly different note.. I have a gui voucher that I won as a prize at my club that is due to expire next week. (it was valid for six months)

I had intended to use it against my sub renewal but can't now with course closed.

Does anybody know of any retail outlets currently open in cork area that accept them?

GUI voucher is sent back to the club in order for shop that it was used in to get paid. If it’s not used the club won’t be out of pocket, I’d imagine they’d accept an expired one against sub?

bmay529 · 01-02-2021 1:26am

Mac_Lad71 wrote: »

On a slightly different note.. I have a gui voucher that I won as a prize at my club that is due to expire next week. (it was valid for six months)

I had intended to use it against my sub renewal but can't now with course closed.

Does anybody know of any retail outlets currently open in cork area that accept them?

I would expect GUI vouchers to be honoured.

If your club accepts vouchers against subs I would pay the sub less the value of the voucher and attach it if paying by cheque or email the voucher no and pay the balance by EFT

A Shaved Duck? · 01-02-2021 10:45am

My subs are due in June so should be back by then, i have been tucking away my comp fees and other money I would have been spending normally so that i can get some new irons and have something to look forward to when it does re-open.

Will be definitely rejoining either way, the lockdown has shown me the importance of having a hobby and routine outside of the house and work.

GreeBo · 01-02-2021 12:39pm

rickis tache wrote: »

No. You pay 790 for the rest of 2021 if your currently a member. All new members joining from Monday pay 1350 for 12 months membership. All current members will pay 1350 in Jan 2022.

Isn't that what I said?!

If it's based on demand then I don't see the issue, things go up when there is more demand?

DuckSlice · 01-02-2021 12:55pm

rickis tache wrote: »

I believe that that's the goal.

Was it hard to get on the timesheet there in 2020?

rickis tache · 01-02-2021 1:57pm

etxp wrote: »

Was it hard to get on the timesheet there in 2020?

Yes especially when they offered summer membership and they had plenty of people who were off work due to pandemic.
Anyway I moved club so these changes don't affect me anymore.

Break80 · 01-02-2021 6:46pm

Joined a new club last year.
8k Hello money over 2 years plus subs.
Just paid the balance today so it looks looks like beans on toast in my house for a while.
When we get back I might change my address to the golf course because I will be living there for the summer.

kennethrhcp · 01-02-2021 8:35pm

Break80 wrote: »

Joined a new club last year.
8k Hello money over 2 years plus subs.
Just paid the balance today so it looks looks like beans on toast in my house for a while.
When we get back I might change my address to the golf course because I will be living there for the summer.

did you join Fota Break? no offence to your old club but some step up (is a step up to nearly all clubs) & alot closer to home

Break80 · 01-02-2021 9:09pm

kennethrhcp wrote: »

did you join Fota Break? no offence to your old club but some step up (is a step up to nearly all clubs) & alot closer to home

yes Thats the one.
Always fancied it and took the plunge last year.
I hope to be walking down the 18th in 20 years time.

bailey99 · 01-02-2021 10:21pm

What's the rate for fota these days? I brought a society down there twice a year every year for years but the price rockets three or four years back and we haven't gone back since.

slave1 · 02-02-2021 9:51am

I’ve played their Paddy’s Day Open a few times, course does be in great nick, can’t remember the exact cost but is a good deal

GreeBo · 02-02-2021 12:15pm

Break80 wrote: »

yes Thats the one.
Always fancied it and took the plunge last year.
I hope to be walking down the 18th in 20 years time.

Jaysus I hope we are back playing sooner than 20 years time!

Break80 · 02-02-2021 12:45pm

GreeBo wrote: »

Jaysus I hope we are back playing sooner than 20 years time!

I don't know.
Listening to Tony he might let us out around then.

GreeBo · 02-02-2021 12:58pm

Paid my sub today, hoping we are back in some form around Paddys

pinkdoubleeagle · 03-02-2021 10:49am

GreeBo wrote: »

Paid my sub today, hoping we are back in some form around Paddys

Likewise. Paid up last Friday. Lucky to be able to in these times.

GreeBo · 03-02-2021 12:30pm

pinkdoubleeagle wrote: »

Likewise. Paid up last Friday. Lucky to be able to in these times.

Yeah true!
Interestingly we have one of the longest waiting lists for new members that we have had in years, time to bring the entry fee back up!
I suspect many locals who typically played in courses outside the 5k are now looking closer to home. (there would be lots of locals in Carton or Wicklow etc)

gypsy79 · 03-02-2021 2:10pm

My sub is due March 9th. Hope we are playing by then

Will you rejoin your club for next year

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