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The BDO Discussion Thread

  • 14-08-2018 7:07pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭


    It's shocking.

    Is it getting worse, I don't remember it ever being this poor.

    Scottish Classic losing QF, £50, yes fifty quid!!!

    Barely buy a round of drinks or cover expenses to get there.

    Can't see them surviving like this for much longer

    TbL


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭marklazarcovic


    Seen a tweet earlier ..

    Since the last bdo official tweet..

    Koepke has won two majors
    The world cup has come and gone
    15 men and 12 women bdo players have won ranking events.

    And still waiting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    The winner gets 500 quid, if you'd to pay for accommodation and travel you wouldn't even break even if you won it. It's a joke tbh!

    TbL


  • Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭anti-venom


    being hearing a rumour lately the the BDO is going to be winding up soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭jrkb


    Well whatever about the standard now it has a glorious history and it will be a sad day if it does wind up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    It'll still be around for the county darts I'm sure which is all it's useful for these days.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭Lazarus2.0


    https://www.bdodarts.com/rulesupdate18.php
    The BDO is set to remove all restrictions on PDC Tour Card holders as previously and currently placed upon them.

    In a complete and radical U-turn, the new BDO Chairman/CEO Derek Jacklin and the current BDO Board of Directors have passed a resolution to remove the historic restrictions as placed on PDC players.

    Better late than never, I suppose ....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Lazarus2.0 wrote: »
    https://www.bdodarts.com/rulesupdate18.php



    Better late than never, I suppose ....

    Left with no choice really as the top 12 ladies all entered the PDC World Championship qualifiers including mister Jacklins wife Paula.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    BDO Turkish Open, winner prize money €2750!

    Very hard to make money on BDO circuit.

    Winnings to be collected from the Saudi Embassy...ðŸ˜

    TbL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    BDO Turkish Open, winner prize money €2750!

    Very hard to make money on BDO circuit.

    Winnings to be collected from the Saudi Embassy...ðŸ˜

    TbL

    Flight, accommodation and probably a day off work, hardly worth while. There is local tournaments around Ireland worth more than that.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    As far as I know there is still no confirmation of a venue for the 2019 BDO World Championships. It's supposed to be Lakeside again but tickets have not gone on sale yet when they are usually on sale in August. Obviously there is no confirmation whether it will be televised either or what the prize fund will be. The organisation is really in trouble now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Kingp35 wrote: »
    As far as I know there is still no confirmation of a venue for the 2019 BDO World Championships. It's supposed to be Lakeside again but tickets have not gone on sale yet when they are usually on sale in August. Obviously there is no confirmation whether it will be televised either or what the prize fund will be. The organisation is really in trouble now.

    It’s probably currently not fit for purpose but it’ll be such a sad day if it disappears, some brilliant matches and memories from the BDO.

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭Degag


    Kingp35 wrote: »
    As far as I know there is still no confirmation of a venue for the 2019 BDO World Championships. It's supposed to be Lakeside again but tickets have not gone on sale yet when they are usually on sale in August. Obviously there is no confirmation whether it will be televised either or what the prize fund will be. The organisation is really in trouble now.
    You'd have to think it's more unlikely than likely to go ahead at this point with only 2 months or so until it (usually) kicks off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Seems like it’s going ahead again at the Lakeside this year.

    https://dartsnews.com/lakeside-confirmed-as-venue-for-2019-bdo-world-championship/


    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭fman


    And supposedly a TV deal with Eurosport for their majors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    Good to see Quest will get to show it now too as part of the deal. Don't have Eurosport, so nice that it remains on a free to air channel too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Stevecw wrote: »
    Good to see Quest will get to show it now too as part of the deal. Don't have Eurosport, so nice that it remains on a free to air channel too.

    Quest in the afternoon Eurosport in the evenings is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    Quest in the afternoon Eurosport in the evenings is it?
    Not sure, they didn't go into any detail on how the coverage is shared out. I'd imagine it be on both once we hit the semis and final anyway. That's how they usually work the snooker they cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    BDO World Championship field announced:

    https://dartsnews.com/field-2019-bdo-world-championship/

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,508 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    BDO World Championship field announced:

    https://dartsnews.com/field-2019-bdo-world-championship/

    TbL

    Wes Newton. And Andy Hamilton.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Wes Newton. And Andy Hamilton.

    The fastest fall I have ever seen. Think Both struggled to qualify too.
    Both were in the PDC premier league in 2013.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭sc86


    how did tony o shea get in? was he not playing pdc challenge tour?
    nigel heydon in also, didnt know he went back to bdo

    some really awfull players in it
    hopefully it throws up some decent games
    not a fan of any darts coverage on eurosport , hopefully its better than before

    andy hamilton got in easy enough , and he missed first 1/4 of the year
    wes only just got in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    The fastest fall I have ever seen. Think Both struggled to qualify too.
    Both were in the PDC premier league in 2013.

    In the year the PDC worlds has about 1000 qualifiers as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭sc86


    paul hogan - wes newton looks tasty
    will some of these lads hearts be really in this?
    so many off to q school


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    sc86 wrote: »
    paul hogan - wes newton looks tasty
    will some of these lads hearts be really in this?
    so many off to q school

    Of course the hearts will be in it 100k is life changing. Plus to be know as a world champion or lakeside champion even is prestigious and will last forever.


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭millhouse


    It's coming close to the end , definitely for Lakeside anyway. Bdo may just focus on county darts and the likes. A real shame given it's history. Much of their own doing, stubborn old fools who would not move with the times. Barry Hearn of PDC land offered to buy them out but they refused. The world championship will disappear probably after this year , no venue , no tv deal and no one else interested in promoting it. They struggled to get it on for this year, venue etc only confirmed in past few weeks. Sad day !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Glen Durrant wins the Finder Masters Darts earning 5k for his efforts.

    First round losers at PDC Worlds earn 50% more than that!

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭sc86


    he confirmed today hes entered q school


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭millhouse


    Heading over to the lakeside for the semis and final. Think it could be the last year and always wanted to go. Has anyone been before , reviews of the venue are terrible in thats its dated , food is crap., beer is sh**e but the atmosphere is amazing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭sc86


    was it dear? tickets hard got?
    id love to go also


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭millhouse


    Went for premium tickets £87 for the saturday which gets both semis and the final was £97 so not cheap but will probably only do it once. I think i saw a few tickets available and there is rooms still available in the lakeside hotel, so still the chance for you .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Lucky lad its a dream to go to the lakeside. Proper darts . Seems fairly cheap too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Tarzann


    I've been there once for Quarter Finals day, both sessions on a Friday.

    Couldn't fault the beer, pitchers were about £13.

    It's a bit of a mission to get there from London, needing at least 2 legs of a train journey if not 3.

    Atmosphere is great though and none of the over-the-top stuff drunkenness you get in the PDC Worlds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭millhouse


    Yes, looking forward to it. Cheaper tickets are available too.
    Fully agree on PDC clowns , have been 2/3 times to grand prix and premier league and there is a completely different vibe and atmosphere. Lakeside is the spiritual home of darts. Taylor , mvg , barney all came via lakeside .


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    fman wrote: »
    And supposedly a TV deal with Eurosport for their majors.

    They had a similar deal in 2015.

    They were paid nothing by Eurosport, not one red cent. :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Glen Durrant wins the Finder Masters Darts earning 5k for his efforts.

    First round losers at PDC Worlds earn 50% more than that!

    TbL

    The Finder is a Major too.

    A PDC player could make 5k by reaching the final of a floor tournament.


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭millhouse


    It's all relative. When there is no major sponsors, regular tv coverage or people paying at the door its very hard to come up with any decent prize money. Last year it was £100k for the winner of the bdo worlds so its not too shabby but obviously there is no comparison to the pdc. Lots of the bdo guys will be heading to q school this year. The bdo is nearing the end in my opinion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭Petyr Baelish


    Just a few days left before the "World Championship" start and the BDO finally announce the prize money:

    https://dartsnews.com/prize-fund-remains-unchanged-for-2019-bdo-world-darts-championship/?theme=active

    Seems dodgy to me. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if some or all of the players are left waiting to receive their prize money with the state the BDO are in.

    Proper darts my hole btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Last 16 of the BDO Scottish Open earns £80 in prize money.

    Eighty quid, Christ on a bike!!

    TbL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Last 16 of the BDO Scottish Open earns £80 in prize money.

    Eighty quid, Christ on a bike!!

    TbL

    How do they get away with that, do they charge entrance fees? We've a tournament every weekend in the local thats that with around 30 players


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    They definitely charge entrance fees. It's probably money in, money out. Why would you bother traveling to these tournaments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Doesn’t make great reading for the BDO.

    Appears to be in a bit of s shambles

    https://dartsnews.com/mandigers-frustrated-by-current-state-of-bdo-you-never-know-what-you-are-playing-for/

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    BDO moving from the Lakeside after 33 years. Some great memories over the years.

    https://dartsnews.com/bdo-world-championship-set-to-leave-lakeside-from-2020-and-move-to-indigo-at-the-o2-arena/


    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭shockframe


    The end of an era.

    Sad that Lakeside is no more. For all the BDO's struggles the Lakeside was often compelling viewing in January.

    Had to be done though. A bigger venue and easier to get to for the casual fan than Frimley Green. Lakeside has been showing its age for far too long.

    Been a good week for the BDO with the new venues. No guarantee of success but will ee interesting how it goes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    the world masters is on at circus tavern aswell great venue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    Hopefully the start of something better for the BDO it definitely has it's place I've always watched and enjoyed lakeside over the years far more enjoyable than eejits dressed as bananas shouting about Yaya Toure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    https://dartsnews.com/bdo-future-in-jeopardy-after-world-masters-prize-money-still-not-paid-out-three-weeks-after-event/

    Scandalous if true.

    I can see the BDO last in its current guise much longer


    TbL


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    I hope they don't fold, their utter ineptitude provides plenty of entertainment!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Big news in the world of darts today. The WDF have today decided that they will no longer recognise the BDO tournaments. This all stems from the utter disaster that was the World Masters. The WDF specifically state that the following rules were broken, one WDF rule and one BDO rule:
    WDF playing rule 11.01:

    11. DRAW

    11.01 There shall be only one draw for opponents, which shall be conducted prior to the tournament.

    BDO ranking systems rule 5.04:

    5.04 Number of Seeded Players

    The criteria for the requisite numbers of players seeded shall be:
    For Events comprising up to 32 entries = 4 x seeded players
    For Events comprising between 33 and 128 entries = 8 x seeded players
    For Events comprising between 129 and 256 entries = 16 x seeded players
    For Events comprising of more than 257 entries = 32 x seeded players

    Essentially this means that the Official IOCC sanctioned World Governing body for darts no longer recognises the BDO World Pro Championships because of suspected match fixing and rigging of draws by the BDO.

    This is a huge nail in the coffin of the BDO, and long with the tournament and player levy's announced earlier this week, I believe we are one step closer to the end of the BDO.

    The quality is poor but here's a copy of the WDF letter:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed




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