Limerick GAA Discussion Part 2

100% correct it has nothing to do with the league,they might be slightly off and it's only slightly and other teams are giving a little extra when they face Limerick.Last year was no different against Clare 3 draws which could have been 3 narrow defeats or victories.Lets wait and see how it plays out before we start writing them off

Yes he was very good for the 21s last year, he was on the frees too but I thought he was as impressive as English and O'Brien, has been on the panel throughout the league so maybe Kiely doesn't think he's ready yet?

Minors well beaten tonight by Clare in Munster, looking at their players in schools, u20s, colleges and ours are we gone behind them in player development? Alot of smoke gets blown up the academy by pundits etc. but we're no longer ahead of Tipp, Cork or Clare in Munster now, W'ford have their own challenges. A dose of reality for all concerned the last few years.

We are not gonna get another team like this one but if the academy can do enough that we are not waiting 45 years for another All Ireland it is doing its job.

Also a great minor/20 team usually is only half the battle as you also have to factor in how good the seniors they will blend into are.

We won the league playing in 2nd gear which hardly qualifies as going all out for it. Its almost a competition in itself now to see who can be most rubbish in the league to "go under the radar" or some other cliche that gets trotted out when we discover they are are flying it in May (training blocks, peaking etc etc etc). Think we just won the "least rubbish in the league" competition this year. It doesn't mean anything in the same was as not winning it doesn't mean anything

It's funny how perception can change after the event.

Now obviously it is not an insight into John Kiely's mind but have a look back at the pages here before the semi and the final, multiple posts from the same posters here now decreeing that Limerick were only going through the motions stating that among others 'it will be full blooded' 'we will go all out to win it' 'Kiley doesn't do holding back' 'why would we hold back' ............its a pity they got rid of the multi quote function but you get the picture!

It anyone thinks that the second half of the league semi or the first three quarters of the final was 'playing in 2nd gear' you obviously have a very inflated opinion of the team or you are deluding yourself. Either that or the car only has three gears!

And was clear that if we didn't make the knockouts no one would have been too worried.

Random stat which I thought was interesting: championship scorers from play during John Kiely's reign:

Gillane: 9-69

T. Morrissey 1-83

Hegarty: 6-67

Flanagan: 5-50

Hayes: 7-36

Casey: 2-47

Mulcahy: 4-38

Lynch: 1-39

Byrnes: 1-27

O'Donovan: 1-19

Dowling: 2-10

Hannon: 0-15

Reidy 0-14

Nash 0-12

O'Neill: 0-12

Ryan: 1-8

O'Donoghue: 0-8

Dempsey: 1-3

Boylan 1-2

D. Morrissey 0-4

Murphy: 1-0

O'Loughlin: 0-2

Breen: 0-2

Browne: 0-1

O'Reilly: 0-1

No, just total overall scores, regardless of appearances made

I know he had a spell up front but unreal going from Hayes.

Ya awful shame.

Probably stops the idea of moving Barry Nash up the field. Would have liked to have seen him put midfield

Very unlucky some player,hopefully he comes back as good as ever.Suppose it's lucky it's one place we have good cover

Point is it bears no relevance at all. It would bear no relavence if we hammered Waterford and Clare. It bears no relevance to the fact we lost to Clare. The league is just something people like to talk about like it has an impact on championship when it doesnt. The reasons Limerick might be a little off or that others are closing the gap will be to do with other factors. "Going for the league" especially when you rotated the whole way through it isnt a factor.

Tipp v cork is too close to call, as far as we're concerned anything but a draw

We just have to win our last 2 games 😊Cork will find it tough with 2 away games left

I would struggle to see waterford winning any of their matchs left & Think clare will beat Cork in Ennis.

That would all mean if Tipp were to beat Limerick in Thurles it would all come down to last match between Limerick v Cork in gaelic grounds for third & Final spot!