Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

mystic86 · 25-08-2020 3:09pm

Image of new jersey, not my photo.

Quin_Dub · 25-08-2020 3:44pm

Southern Kings disband until the end of the year

What are their 2nd rows like?

Burkie1203 · 25-08-2020 3:52pm

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Southern Kings disband until the end of the year

What are their 2nd rows like?

Do Munster not have an academy?

yerrahbah · 25-08-2020 4:00pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Do Munster not have an academy?

https://www.munsterrugby.ie/teams/academy-squad/

Eod100 · 25-08-2020 4:17pm

mystic86 wrote: »

Image of new jersey, not my photo.

Same old, same old really

Dog Botherer · 25-08-2020 7:59pm

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Southern Kings disband until the end of the year

What are their 2nd rows like?

genuinely think Jerry Sexton is about as good as it gets, their cupboard was not exactly overflowing.

Bazzo · 25-08-2020 9:53pm

Dog Botherer wrote: »

genuinely think Jerry Sexton is about as good as it gets, their cupboard was not exactly overflowing.

Their captain is a second row isn't he? Blonde fella with a big beard? Seem to remember him putting in some good shifts any time I've watched them.

Dog Botherer · 26-08-2020 1:50am

Bazzo wrote: »

Their captain is a second row isn't he? Blonde fella with a big beard? Seem to remember him putting in some good shifts any time I've watched them.

Willemse is/was captain, a hooker. think it’s Astle you’re thinking of, certainly fits the description. 29, probably coming into his peak, has bumped around a fair few clubs so would probably be amenable to a move. 6”6 and 115~kg so not small either. more likely he’ll go back to D2 French rugby but i suppose he could do a job for a few months.

the IRFU would probably be a lot happier signing Sexton than yet another Saffer.

Burkie1203 · 26-08-2020 6:54am

Dog Botherer wrote: »

Willemse is/was captain, a hooker. think it’s Astle you’re thinking of, certainly fits the description. 29, probably coming into his peak, has bumped around a fair few clubs so would probably be amenable to a move. 6”6 and 115~kg so not small either. more likely he’ll go back to D2 French rugby but i suppose he could do a job for a few months.

the IRFU would probably be a lot happier signing Sexton than yet another Saffer.

Willemse is at Embra now

Cannot see any signings being sanctioned in the next few months bar maybe a front row crisis

irishbucsfan · 26-08-2020 7:48am

Brian Hayes? Alan Kennedy?

yerrahbah · 26-08-2020 9:05am

https://twitter.com/Munsterrugby/status/1298523070588768257

https://www.lifestylesports.com/ie/adult-munster-20-21-european-jersey-57875941.html

i like it

Also that smile, that damned smile

theboss80 · 26-08-2020 9:19am

The stars

thomond2006 · 26-08-2020 9:22am

It's widely reported Connacht are set to change their entire XV.

This 23 played against Ulster:

15. John Porch
14. Peter Sullivan
13. Tom Farrell
12. Bundee Aki
11. Alex Wootton
10. Jack Carty
9. Kieran Marmion
1. Denis Buckley
2. Dave Heffernan
3. Finlay Bealham
4. Ultan Dillane
5. Gavin Thornbury
6. Eoghan Masterson
7. Jarrad Butler (c)
8. Paul Boyle

16. Jonny Murphy
17. Jordan Duggan
18. Jack Aungier
19. Niall Murray
20. Conor Oliver
21. Stephen Kerins
22. Conor Dean
23. Tom Daly

Buer · 26-08-2020 9:55am

That would be very odd given they've nothing to play for and it's their last game for a few months.

You'd think they'd look to go out with a bang. Conspiracy theories will have a field day if they put out a second string side. Does the league no favours.

Former Former · 26-08-2020 10:03am

Buer wrote: »

That would be very odd given they've nothing to play for and it's their last game for a few months.

You'd think they'd look to go out with a bang. Conspiracy theories will have a field day if they put out a second string side. Does the league no favours.

But equally, you have guys who have not kicked a ball in anger in 6 months and they need a run out too.

FACECUTTR · 26-08-2020 10:10am

Buer wrote: »

That would be very odd given they've nothing to play for and it's their last game for a few months.

You'd think they'd look to go out with a bang. Conspiracy theories will have a field day if they put out a second string side. Does the league no favours.

Friend said before the first game that there would be 2 different 15s for both games. The 2 people who trained best in each position will get a start. Thornbury and Buckley were the only injuries mentioned but I thought it looked like Masterson went off for a hia too.
The conspiracy theorists should go back and fanboy over Trump and Q and leave rugby alone.

Clegg · 26-08-2020 10:11am

One of the guests on the Off The Ball rugby podcast spoke about Connacht last Monday. Andy Friend has challenged the squad to impress him over the two fixtures. He wants to see who can be relied upon when next season begins.

salmocab · 26-08-2020 10:36am

Former Former wrote: »

But equally, you have guys who have not kicked a ball in anger in 6 months and they need a run out too.

Given the break coming up they don’t need a run out but I’d agree they deserve one after training

Rockbeast2 · 26-08-2020 10:43am

Buer wrote: »

That would be very odd given they've nothing to play for and it's their last game for a few months.

You'd think they'd look to go out with a bang. Conspiracy theories will have a field day if they put out a second string side. Does the league no favours.

* Sorry, meant to quote Former Former!

Fair enough, but this is about the integrity of the league. If Scarlets win with or without a bonus point, they will be depending on a Connacht win to help them secure a semi-final place.

It's hardly too much to expect that Connacht put out a full-strength side, is it?

Buer · 26-08-2020 10:53am

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

* Sorry, meant to quote Former Former!

Fair enough, but this is about the integrity of the league. If Scarlets win with or without a bonus point, they will be depending on a Connacht win to help them secure a semi-final place.

It's hardly too much to expect that Connacht put out a full-strength side, is it?

Nah, no team is putting out a full strength side back to back with the possible exception of the Scarlets nor should they be expected to.

Friend's comments suggest he had a pre-planned approach to these games and is using them as prep for next season. It does the league no favours but it's a reasonable decision.

aloooof · 26-08-2020 10:58am

The league's integrity is slightly skewed anyway with the conference system and the inter-country derbies. (Throw in the Covid situation with unfulfilled fixtures this year and it's even moreso; not a criticism, just the way it had to be).

I think more gets made of it in a situation like this as it's distilled down to one match, rather than viewed across a full league campaign.

Rockbeast2 · 26-08-2020 10:58am

Buer wrote: »

Nah, no team is putting out a full strength side back to back with the possible exception of the Scarlets nor should they be expected to.

Friend's comments suggest he had a pre-planned approach to these games and is using them as prep for next season. It does the league no favours but it's a reasonable decision.

Hmmnn... well if Scarlets and the WRU are happy with that arrangement then who am I to argue?

sydthebeat · 26-08-2020 11:35am

the welsh are never in a place to complaint about the integrity of the league

OldRio · 26-08-2020 11:43am

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

Hmmnn... well if Scarlets and the WRU are happy with that arrangement then who am I to argue?

The Welsh are never happy about anything. Unless the English blow them a kiss.

maddness · 26-08-2020 1:50pm

yerrahbah wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Munsterrugby/status/1298523070588768257

https://www.lifestylesports.com/ie/adult-munster-20-21-european-jersey-57875941.html

i like it

Also that smile, that damned smile

That’s a cracking looking jersey, I hope Adidas can manage a good Leinster one too.

Former Former · 26-08-2020 2:19pm

maddness wrote: »

That’s a cracking looking jersey, I hope Adidas can manage a good Leinster one too.

They already have:
https://www.lifestylesports.com/ie/leinster-rugby/?gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImvHd0vq46wIVyLTtCh3P0A0TEAAYASAAEgJrsvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

maddness · 26-08-2020 2:38pm

Former Former wrote: »

They already have:
https://www.lifestylesports.com/ie/leinster-rugby/?gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImvHd0vq46wIVyLTtCh3P0A0TEAAYASAAEgJrsvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I meant next year, this years one isn’t great.

2smiggy · 26-08-2020 4:36pm

pity they put those silly fecking stors on the jersey

The Lost Sheep · 26-08-2020 5:08pm

2smiggy wrote: »

pity they put those silly fecking stors on the jersey

why?
Toulouse, Leinster, Sarries, Toulon all have them so why not Munster?

FACECUTTR · 26-08-2020 5:32pm

2smiggy wrote: »

pity they put those silly fecking stors on the jersey

Go back to D4

molloyjh · 26-08-2020 6:59pm

FACECUTTR wrote: »

Go back to D4

Hey, we work damn hard to move them on. Stop sending them right back.

That is one lovely jersey I have to say. Would be delighted with something like that in blue. Our new home one isn't far off I suppose.

clsmooth · 27-08-2020 8:28am

yerrahbah wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Munsterrugby/status/1298523070588768257

https://www.lifestylesports.com/ie/adult-munster-20-21-european-jersey-57875941.html

i like it

Also that smile, that damned smile

Cracking jersey!

theboss80 · 27-08-2020 9:21am

yerrahbah wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Munsterrugby/status/1298523070588768257

https://www.lifestylesports.com/ie/adult-munster-20-21-european-jersey-57875941.html

i like it

Also that smile, that damned smile

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aloooof · 28-08-2020 11:57am

Team named:

Munster: Shane Daly; Andrew Conway, Chris Farrell, Damian de Allende, Keith Earls; JJ Hanrahan, Conor Murray; Jeremy Loughman, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Fineen Wycherley, Tadhg Beirne; Peter O’Mahony (C), Chris Cloete, CJ Stander.

Replacements: Kevin O’Byrne, Liam O’Connor, Stephen Archer, Billy Holland, Jack O’Donoghue, Craig Casey, Rory Scannell, Jack O’Sullivan.

Former Former · 28-08-2020 8:38pm

Is Gallagher injured?

Didn't come off the bench last week and now not in the 23 at all. Slightly ominous.

aloooof · 28-08-2020 8:43pm

Former Former wrote: »

Is Gallagher injured?

Didn't come off the bench last week and now not in the 23 at all. Slightly ominous.

I don't believe he's been mentioned in any of the injury updates, so it seems like he's fit.

connachta · 28-08-2020 9:37pm

aloooof wrote: »

I don't believe he's been mentioned in any of the injury updates, so it seems like he's fit.

Both Gallaghers missing in each selections without being listed injured.
Conspiracy!!!

PTH2009 · 28-08-2020 10:02pm

I'm guessing score difference is the killer for us even with a BP win on Sunday

ScrubsfanChris · 28-08-2020 10:10pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

I'm guessing score difference is the killer for us even with a BP win on Sunday

Edinburgh have more games one also.
Losing to them in Musgrave Park (albeit we had a weaker team that night) has cost us here.

Buer · 28-08-2020 10:12pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

I'm guessing score difference is the killer for us even with a BP win on Sunday

Matches won. Edinburgh have 11 wins, Munster 9.

They went into tonight knowing they could lose by 100 and still top the pool. I'm surprised they went with as strong a team as they did even if they did just go through the motions.

thomond2006 · 31-08-2020 5:08pm

The Munster squad returned from Dublin last night and will recover today before beginning preparations on Tuesday for our Guinness PRO14 semi-final against Leinster at the Aviva Stadium on Friday (7.35pm).

There were no new knocks following Sunday’s victory over Connacht.

Roman Salanoa returns to full training following an abdominal injury.

RG Snyman will undergo surgery this week having sustained an ACL tear against Leinster last week.

Continuing to rehab: Joey Carbery (ankle), Dan Goggin (ankle), Dave Kilcoyne (ankle) and Jean Kleyn (neck).

https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2020/08/31/squad-update-guinness-pro14-semi-final-week/

Good to get Salanoa back. He'll likely feature in the A interpros to build match fitness for 2020/21.

yerrahbah · 01-09-2020 8:12am

A few decisions to be made for the weekend

Props: Do you stick with Loughman or bring Cronin in who has had 30 mins or rugby since March? Loughman might offer more off the bench if the game begins to open up

Who partners Beirne in the 2nd row? Thought Holland and Whycherley both did well in their games. Maybe Whycherley brings a bit more ball carrying ability which we will need in the absence of Snyman

the No.7 Jersey... Cloete would be the ideal person for the jersey if he cant sort his discipline, that late shot vs Connacht was just typical of the silly needless penalties he tends to give away. However his presence around ruck time could give the opposition a hard time.

O'Donoghue is a great Maul and lineout defender and a great carrier in the wide channels

I would probably roll the dice and play Cloete.

The backs probably stay the same.

Playing 3 games in 3 weeks with a 5 day turnaround to the 3rd game after 6 months off is not ideal

Will Leinster benefit more from having last week off than Munster will from the extra "Match sharpness"

Wouldn't surprise me if Leinster start Rob. Kearney to try and nullify Murrays box kicks

aloooof · 01-09-2020 9:37am

I wonder with 7 is there a chance we could see POM there with Beirne at 6, and Holland and Wycherly both starting?

Caranica · 01-09-2020 12:00pm

aloooof wrote: »

I wonder with 7 is there a chance we could see POM there with Beirne at 6, and Holland and Wycherly both starting?

Against Leinster? No chance. Would leave us without an impact second row on the bench. Jack to start at 7 as he would have first time had he not picked up a knock.

Cookiemunster · 03-09-2020 11:52am

Semi Final team.

Munster: Shane Daly; Andrew Conway, Chris Farrell, Damian de Allende, Keith Earls; JJ Hanrahan, Conor Murray; Jeremy Loughman, Niall Scannell, Stephen Archer; Tadhg Beirne, Billy Holland; Peter O’Mahony (C), Jack O’Donoghue, CJ Stander.

Replacements: Kevin O’Byrne, James Cronin, John Ryan, Fineen Wycherley, Chris Cloete, Craig Casey, Rory Scannell, Mike Haley.

phog · 03-09-2020 11:59am

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Semi Final team.

Munster: Shane Daly; Andrew Conway, Chris Farrell, Damian de Allende, Keith Earls; JJ Hanrahan, Conor Murray; Jeremy Loughman, Niall Scannell, Stephen Archer; Tadhg Beirne, Billy Holland; Peter O’Mahony (C), Jack O’Donoghue, CJ Stander.

Replacements: Kevin O’Byrne, James Cronin, John Ryan, Fineen Wycherley, Chris Cloete, Craig Casey, Rory Scannell, Mike Haley.

Forgot today was Thursday and when I read first your post I thought it was your thoughts on who the team might be. Great ot see Jacko start

Meanwhile Ciaran Parker has gone to Leinster from Jersey when he moved to earlier this year.

phog · 03-09-2020 3:32pm

For those of you that don't have access to eir sport they are also broadcasting the match on the eir Sport Facebook page

awec · 03-09-2020 4:11pm

phog wrote: »

For those of you that don't have access to eir sport they are also broadcasting the match on the eir Sport Facebook page

For free?

yerrahbah · 03-09-2020 4:13pm

New Munster training range for anyone who is interested

https://twitter.com/Munsterrugby/status/1301535940473651200

https://www.lifestylesports.com/ie/munster-rugby/?utm_source=munsterwebsite&utm_medium=menu&utm_campaign=menutop

moritz1234 · 03-09-2020 4:14pm

I've a good feeling about tomorrow night. Few pints in the pub and enjoy the match.

Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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