Sexism you have personally experienced or have heard of? READ POST 1

Kimsang · 19-05-2019 3:35am

Deleted User wrote: »

That should be a sackable offence, imagine hating men so much that you dump their applications.

Definitely not a minor issue.

Someone needs to report that supervisor, ask where the applications have gone.

It could be a directive of the HR department. Its all about quotas these days, in Iceland companies have to prove gender pay equality, which has led to similar events of men being sent home earlier.

I remember reading recently UL announced female only professorships, because only 25% of professors were female. Funny that 25% of candidates that stand for election are female, and 25% of the cabinet are women.

Here's a piece on Sky News' The Pledge in which Greg Dyke former BBC director describes the time he made the BBC more diverse because it was 'hideously white' - by setting up kangaroo courts.

Something similar is happening in the name of gender equity. Funny how in more egalitarian countries we see more sexual dimophism.

Silentcorner · 19-05-2019 9:02am

Kimsang wrote: »

It could be a directive of the HR department. Its all about quotas these days, in Iceland companies have to prove gender pay equality, which has led to similar events of men being sent home earlier.

I remember reading recently UL announced female only professorships, because only 25% of professors were female. Funny that 25% of candidates that stand for election are female, and 25% of the cabinet are women.

Here's a piece on Sky News' The Pledge in which Greg Dyke former BBC director describes the time he made the BBC more diverse because it was 'hideously white' - by setting up kangaroo courts.

Something similar is happening in the name of gender equity. Funny how in more egalitarian countries we see more sexual dimophism.

The only places where you see "equality" is in China and the old Soviet States...where women work side by side with men across the workforce...they don't seem to have the same problems as we do over here...apart from highly unstable economies and poverty, no press freedom, questionable elections that is!

silverharp · 19-05-2019 9:14am

Silentcorner wrote: »

The only places where you see "equality" is in China and the old Soviet States...where women work side by side with men across the workforce...they don't seem to have the same problems as we do over here...apart from highly unstable economies and poverty, no press freedom, questionable elections that is!

at the extreme is seems to be when a society is under stress, think women clearing rubble in Berlin in 45 or Rwanda where the male leadership were murdered. Somewhere like Sweden would tend in the opposite direction despite huge amounts of social programming

steddyeddy · 19-05-2019 9:14am

Kimsang wrote: »

It could be a directive of the HR department. Its all about quotas these days, in Iceland companies have to prove gender pay equality, which has led to similar events of men being sent home earlier.

I remember reading recently UL announced female only professorships, because only 25% of professors were female. Funny that 25% of candidates that stand for election are female, and 25% of the cabinet are women.

Here's a piece on Sky News' The Pledge in which Greg Dyke former BBC director describes the time he made the BBC more diverse because it was 'hideously white' - by setting up kangaroo courts.

Something similar is happening in the name of gender equity. Funny how in more egalitarian countries we see more sexual dimophism.

No I checked and it's not a directive. It's something this person does alone.

21-05-2019 3:52pm

Holy f*ck

Basically saying: Unless you think you might get caught, at some later date, do NOT tell your partner that he may not be the father of your unborn child

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/lifestyle/ask-a-counsellor-im-pregnant-should-i-tell-my-fiance-im-not-totally-sure-hes-the-father-925677.html

The Specialist · 21-05-2019 4:28pm

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Holy f*ck

Basically saying: Unless you think you might get caught, at some later date, do NOT tell your partner that he may not be the father of your unborn child

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/lifestyle/ask-a-counsellor-im-pregnant-should-i-tell-my-fiance-im-not-totally-sure-hes-the-father-925677.html

Jesus christ who the **** cleared that to be published? A disgusting hypocrite - she’s be reefing a man out of it for a similar story but it’s all kid gloves with the females?? Guy deserves to know so he can kick her cheating ass out of his life, kid or not

steddyeddy · 21-05-2019 4:59pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Holy f*ck

Basically saying: Unless you think you might get caught, at some later date, do NOT tell your partner that he may not be the father of your unborn child

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/lifestyle/ask-a-counsellor-im-pregnant-should-i-tell-my-fiance-im-not-totally-sure-hes-the-father-925677.html

That is absolutely disgusting. Are relationships and more importantly parents are meant to be a team? Imagine being the kid in the story when they grew up and found out that their dad might not be theirs at all. Mummy's excuse? I thought it might be stressful on mummy to reveal the secret so I kept it hidden.

Not once does the counsellor mention the implications that it might have for the father. Nor do they seriously consider the child's future in all of this. Imagine being married or partnered to the counsellor in the story and finding out your OH wrote that? Lets hope the counsellor has no kids of her own.

Calhoun · 21-05-2019 6:38pm

I believe the article is from the UK and they just reused it for the examiner. Horrendous advice from a agony aunt.

ancapailldorcha · 21-05-2019 6:52pm

maybe

I wonder if it's down to this idea of pandering to people's feelings, even if it means advising them to do deeply unethical things. This is advice geared towards sparing her a very difficult conversation, not doing the right thing. It's bad advice for her as well. She'll have to keep this secret for the rest of her life unless she divulges it down the line. The longer she feeds the lie, the messier its demise will be.

Kidchameleon · 21-05-2019 7:28pm

I believe it is already to perform paternity tests in the UK without both parents consent. In France I believe it is not possible to do paternity tests. At the moment in Ireland, it is possible to do a test without the permission of the mother, but I can see that changing. The state protects people like the cheating woman in that article.

terryduff12 · 21-05-2019 8:48pm

What about STDs or do women not get them cheating its only men that get them.

Pawwed Rig · 21-05-2019 8:51pm

I assumed all of these agony aunt problems were made up until the Pat Quirke case.

steddyeddy · 21-05-2019 8:59pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I wonder if it's down to this idea of pandering to people's feelings, even if it means advising them to do deeply unethical things. This is advice geared towards sparing her a very difficult conversation, not doing the right thing. It's bad advice for her as well. She'll have to keep this secret for the rest of her life unless she divulges it down the line. The longer she feeds the lie, the messier its demise will be.

That's very insightful A. I think the younger generation are told that feelings are paramount. A friend of mine wanted to make up with another friend but was scared to make the first move. She considered being scared reason enough to avoid it.

the_pen_turner · 21-05-2019 9:22pm

if that artical was from a man that wrote in saying he knocked up his ex girlfriends and was wondering should he tell his fiance, the advice would be to tell her and be all about how he should have resected his fiance and how horrible he is ( and rightly so) . its a huge double standard

iptba · 26-05-2019 5:14pm

Financial incentive for female candidates in local elections

Sunday, 10 Mar 2019

The Government is to provide financial incentives to get parties to select more women candidates for the forthcoming local elections.

A fund of €500,000 is being made available, part of which will be shared between political parties who show an increase in the number of female candidates running in the elections in May.

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2019/0310/1035494-gender-quotas/

While some might argue that this is not full discrimination, it could have this effect for some individuals who wish to stand

Calhoun · 26-05-2019 5:43pm

iptba wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2019/0310/1035494-gender-quotas/

While some might argue that this is not full discrimination, it could have this effect for some individuals who wish to stand

I'd say it could be challenged by independents.

ligerdub · 27-05-2019 11:50pm

Not exactly an extreme case but RTE providing us with yet another example, this week via the Claire Byrne show.

Apparently there is now going to be a National Day of Free Self Defence classes for women. This was an initiative by a woman who was violently attacked by a stranger. This was a noble endeavour on her behalf no doubt, but the narrative around this was that women are more likely to be victims of violence and at one point Byrne asked if perhaps there should be some lessons for men.........not to attack women! How bout no Claire?!

What about the plethora of men who are attacked without provocation, of which there was still a huge number of people, more than women I understand. Why isn't there a drive or national recognition for men to have a day for free self defence classes? As always the victims are always framed in terms of one gender only.

Calhoun · 27-05-2019 11:59pm

ligerdub wrote: »

Not exactly an extreme case but RTE providing us with yet another example, this week via the Claire Byrne show.

Apparently there is now going to be a National Day of Free Self Defence classes for women. This was an initiative by a woman who was violently attacked by a stranger. This was a noble endeavour on her behalf no doubt, but the narrative around this was that women are more likely to be victims of violence and at one point Byrne asked if perhaps there should be some lessons for men.........not to attack women! How bout no Claire?!

What about the plethora of men who are attacked without provocation, of which there was still a huge number of people, more than women I understand. Why isn't there a drive or national recognition for men to have a day for free self defence classes? As always the victims are always framed in terms of one gender only.

The joke is the self defense classes will probably lull allot of women into a false sense of security.

Any class they did have for men, well do you think the animals that are abusers will really give a ****.

Kimsang · 29-05-2019 6:41pm

Yep it seems to be the feminist buzz phrase at the moment 'Teach men not to..." when talking about our 'toxic masculinity'

Its akin to saying "let's teach muslims not to be terrorists", and no-one is saying that... for a good reason.

The Specialist · 29-05-2019 6:53pm

Kimsang wrote: »

Yep it seems to be the feminist buzz phrase at the moment 'Teach men not to..." when talking about our 'toxic masculinity'

Its akin to saying "let's teach muslims not to be terrorists", and no-one is saying that... for a good reason.

What pisses me off about modern feminism is the idea that all men are somehow connected in a hive mind, and we all share the same views across this network of internalized patriarchy :rolleyes: . It’s like me saying “we need to teach all women to stop nagging men” - it’s the same thing really isn’t it? One woman I dated was an insufferable bitch for that but should I assume that all women are exactly like her? There can’t be double standards surely??

py2006 · 30-05-2019 9:41am

The Specialist wrote: »

What pisses me off about modern feminism is the idea that all men are somehow connected in a hive mind, and we all share the same views across this network of internalized patriarchy :rolleyes: . It’s like me saying “we need to teach all women to stop nagging men” - it’s the same thing really isn’t it? One woman I dated was an insufferable bitch for that but should I assume that all women are exactly like her? There can’t be double standards surely??

Modern feminism is all about the double standards

silverharp · 30-05-2019 9:42am

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steddyeddy · 30-05-2019 11:38am

The Specialist wrote: »

What pisses me off about modern feminism is the idea that all men are somehow connected in a hive mind, and we all share the same views across this network of internalized patriarchy :rolleyes: . It’s like me saying “we need to teach all women to stop nagging men” - it’s the same thing really isn’t it? One woman I dated was an insufferable bitch for that but should I assume that all women are exactly like her? There can’t be double standards surely??

What pisses me off is that modern feminism seems to want to describe women as victims waiting to be attacked, discriminated against or not valued. Holding those beliefs will lead you to see attacks or enemies in every man.

Pawwed Rig · 31-05-2019 9:36am

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48442934

A strange article that brushes over the castration of boys and effectively supports it.

Not overly familiar with this area but some of the quotes from the article are eye opening such as

'One of the most shocking moves of the authorities was to take away children who were living with eunuchs'

'Many of these children were actually disciples. Others appeared to have been orphans, adopted or enslaved as children.'

'According to records, there were between 90 and 100 male children found living with registered eunuchs between 1860 and 1880. Very few of them had been emasculated and most of them were living with their biological parents.'

So some had been castrated but that is OK?

Kimsang · 01-06-2019 3:19am

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48442934

A strange article that brushes over the castration of boys and effectively supports it.

Not overly familiar with this area but some of the quotes from the article are eye opening such as

'One of the most shocking moves of the authorities was to take away children who were living with eunuchs'

'Many of these children were actually disciples. Others appeared to have been orphans, adopted or enslaved as children.'

'According to records, there were between 90 and 100 male children found living with registered eunuchs between 1860 and 1880. Very few of them had been emasculated and most of them were living with their biological parents.'

So some had been castrated but that is OK?

Yes according to modern feminism this is precisely ok.

The same argument is made of false rape accusers. Every time the topic is brought up they just brush it aside and say 'there are virtually no false rape accusers, the number is only 2%(which itself is a lie)"

There are literally thousands of examples of this online. A quick google of "feminism & false rape accusers" and the first article says:
"Innocent men rarely face rape charges" which makes it ok because the word rarely was in there. (even though this is a lie).

It seem if the narrative if one of victim-hood, even one person experiencing something is enough to warrant action, but when action is sought to help the 'victim' a wide net is cast that also includes innocent people, and feminists have no problem with this.

Good new documentary on youtube from Patrick Graham on this double standard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwafn2NO0mw

One eyed Jack · 01-06-2019 7:26am

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

So some had been castrated but that is OK?

The politics are a fair bit more complex than that fluffy article makes out alright -

Hijra used to be translated in English as "eunuch" or "hermaphrodite", although LGBT historians or human rights activists have sought to include them as being transgender. In a series of meetings convened between October 2013 and Jan 2014 by the transgender experts committee of India's Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment, hijra and other trans activists asked that the term "eunuch" be discontinued from usage in government documents, as it is not a term with which the communities identify.

Hijra (Indian subcontinent)

Kimsang wrote: »

Yes according to modern feminism this is precisely ok.

Feckall to do with modern feminism.

Calhoun · 01-06-2019 2:14pm

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48442934

A strange article that brushes over the castration of boys and effectively supports it.

Not overly familiar with this area but some of the quotes from the article are eye opening such as

'One of the most shocking moves of the authorities was to take away children who were living with eunuchs'

'Many of these children were actually disciples. Others appeared to have been orphans, adopted or enslaved as children.'

'According to records, there were between 90 and 100 male children found living with registered eunuchs between 1860 and 1880. Very few of them had been emasculated and most of them were living with their biological parents.'

So some had been castrated but that is OK?

They were only men and as we know in todays society your either only good enough to die on the street a beggar or on a battlefield abroad.

Kimsang · 03-06-2019 6:13pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Feckall to do with modern feminism.

So you're saying modern feminists care if innocent men get wrongly punished? Could you please point me to one.

One eyed Jack · 03-06-2019 11:04pm

Kimsang wrote: »

So you're saying modern feminists care if innocent men get wrongly punished? Could you please point me to one.

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silverharp · 06-06-2019 11:21am

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