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Sexism you have personally experienced or have heard of? *READ POST 1*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    That should be a sackable offence, imagine hating men so much that you dump their applications.

    Definitely not a minor issue.

    Someone needs to report that supervisor, ask where the applications have gone.

    It could be a directive of the HR department. Its all about quotas these days, in Iceland companies have to prove gender pay equality, which has led to similar events of men being sent home earlier.

    I remember reading recently UL announced female only professorships, because only 25% of professors were female. Funny that 25% of candidates that stand for election are female, and 25% of the cabinet are women.

    Here's a piece on Sky News' The Pledge in which Greg Dyke former BBC director describes the time he made the BBC more diverse because it was 'hideously white' - by setting up kangaroo courts.

    Something similar is happening in the name of gender equity. Funny how in more egalitarian countries we see more sexual dimophism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Kimsang wrote: »
    It could be a directive of the HR department. Its all about quotas these days, in Iceland companies have to prove gender pay equality, which has led to similar events of men being sent home earlier.

    I remember reading recently UL announced female only professorships, because only 25% of professors were female. Funny that 25% of candidates that stand for election are female, and 25% of the cabinet are women.

    Here's a piece on Sky News' The Pledge in which Greg Dyke former BBC director describes the time he made the BBC more diverse because it was 'hideously white' - by setting up kangaroo courts.

    Something similar is happening in the name of gender equity. Funny how in more egalitarian countries we see more sexual dimophism.

    The only places where you see "equality" is in China and the old Soviet States...where women work side by side with men across the workforce...they don't seem to have the same problems as we do over here...apart from highly unstable economies and poverty, no press freedom, questionable elections that is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    The only places where you see "equality" is in China and the old Soviet States...where women work side by side with men across the workforce...they don't seem to have the same problems as we do over here...apart from highly unstable economies and poverty, no press freedom, questionable elections that is!

    at the extreme is seems to be when a society is under stress, think women clearing rubble in Berlin in 45 or Rwanda where the male leadership were murdered. Somewhere like Sweden would tend in the opposite direction despite huge amounts of social programming

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Kimsang wrote: »
    It could be a directive of the HR department. Its all about quotas these days, in Iceland companies have to prove gender pay equality, which has led to similar events of men being sent home earlier.

    I remember reading recently UL announced female only professorships, because only 25% of professors were female. Funny that 25% of candidates that stand for election are female, and 25% of the cabinet are women.

    Here's a piece on Sky News' The Pledge in which Greg Dyke former BBC director describes the time he made the BBC more diverse because it was 'hideously white' - by setting up kangaroo courts.

    Something similar is happening in the name of gender equity. Funny how in more egalitarian countries we see more sexual dimophism.

    No I checked and it's not a directive. It's something this person does alone.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Holy f*ck

    Basically saying: Unless you think you might get caught, at some later date, do NOT tell your partner that he may not be the father of your unborn child


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/lifestyle/ask-a-counsellor-im-pregnant-should-i-tell-my-fiance-im-not-totally-sure-hes-the-father-925677.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    Holy f*ck

    Basically saying: Unless you think you might get caught, at some later date, do NOT tell your partner that he may not be the father of your unborn child


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/lifestyle/ask-a-counsellor-im-pregnant-should-i-tell-my-fiance-im-not-totally-sure-hes-the-father-925677.html

    Jesus christ who the **** cleared that to be published? A disgusting hypocrite - she’s be reefing a man out of it for a similar story but it’s all kid gloves with the females?? Guy deserves to know so he can kick her cheating ass out of his life, kid or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Holy f*ck

    Basically saying: Unless you think you might get caught, at some later date, do NOT tell your partner that he may not be the father of your unborn child


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/lifestyle/ask-a-counsellor-im-pregnant-should-i-tell-my-fiance-im-not-totally-sure-hes-the-father-925677.html

    That is absolutely disgusting. Are relationships and more importantly parents are meant to be a team? Imagine being the kid in the story when they grew up and found out that their dad might not be theirs at all. Mummy's excuse? I thought it might be stressful on mummy to reveal the secret so I kept it hidden.

    Not once does the counsellor mention the implications that it might have for the father. Nor do they seriously consider the child's future in all of this. Imagine being married or partnered to the counsellor in the story and finding out your OH wrote that? Lets hope the counsellor has no kids of her own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    I believe the article is from the UK and they just reused it for the examiner. Horrendous advice from a agony aunt.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,552 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    maybe
    I wonder if it's down to this idea of pandering to people's feelings, even if it means advising them to do deeply unethical things. This is advice geared towards sparing her a very difficult conversation, not doing the right thing. It's bad advice for her as well. She'll have to keep this secret for the rest of her life unless she divulges it down the line. The longer she feeds the lie, the messier its demise will be.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    I believe it is already to perform paternity tests in the UK without both parents consent. In France I believe it is not possible to do paternity tests. At the moment in Ireland, it is possible to do a test without the permission of the mother, but I can see that changing. The state protects people like the cheating woman in that article.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 502 ✭✭✭terryduff12


    What about STDs or do women not get them cheating its only men that get them.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I assumed all of these agony aunt problems were made up until the Pat Quirke case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I wonder if it's down to this idea of pandering to people's feelings, even if it means advising them to do deeply unethical things. This is advice geared towards sparing her a very difficult conversation, not doing the right thing. It's bad advice for her as well. She'll have to keep this secret for the rest of her life unless she divulges it down the line. The longer she feeds the lie, the messier its demise will be.

    That's very insightful A. I think the younger generation are told that feelings are paramount. A friend of mine wanted to make up with another friend but was scared to make the first move. She considered being scared reason enough to avoid it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    if that artical was from a man that wrote in saying he knocked up his ex girlfriends and was wondering should he tell his fiance, the advice would be to tell her and be all about how he should have resected his fiance and how horrible he is ( and rightly so) . its a huge double standard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭iptba


    Financial incentive for female candidates in local elections

    Sunday, 10 Mar 2019

    The Government is to provide financial incentives to get parties to select more women candidates for the forthcoming local elections.

    A fund of €500,000 is being made available, part of which will be shared between political parties who show an increase in the number of female candidates running in the elections in May.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2019/0310/1035494-gender-quotas/

    While some might argue that this is not full discrimination, it could have this effect for some individuals who wish to stand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    iptba wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2019/0310/1035494-gender-quotas/

    While some might argue that this is not full discrimination, it could have this effect for some individuals who wish to stand

    I'd say it could be challenged by independents.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Not exactly an extreme case but RTE providing us with yet another example, this week via the Claire Byrne show.

    Apparently there is now going to be a National Day of Free Self Defence classes for women. This was an initiative by a woman who was violently attacked by a stranger. This was a noble endeavour on her behalf no doubt, but the narrative around this was that women are more likely to be victims of violence and at one point Byrne asked if perhaps there should be some lessons for men.........not to attack women! How bout no Claire?!

    What about the plethora of men who are attacked without provocation, of which there was still a huge number of people, more than women I understand. Why isn't there a drive or national recognition for men to have a day for free self defence classes? As always the victims are always framed in terms of one gender only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    ligerdub wrote: »
    Not exactly an extreme case but RTE providing us with yet another example, this week via the Claire Byrne show.

    Apparently there is now going to be a National Day of Free Self Defence classes for women. This was an initiative by a woman who was violently attacked by a stranger. This was a noble endeavour on her behalf no doubt, but the narrative around this was that women are more likely to be victims of violence and at one point Byrne asked if perhaps there should be some lessons for men.........not to attack women! How bout no Claire?!

    What about the plethora of men who are attacked without provocation, of which there was still a huge number of people, more than women I understand. Why isn't there a drive or national recognition for men to have a day for free self defence classes? As always the victims are always framed in terms of one gender only.

    The joke is the self defense classes will probably lull allot of women into a false sense of security.

    Any class they did have for men, well do you think the animals that are abusers will really give a ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    Yep it seems to be the feminist buzz phrase at the moment 'Teach men not to..." when talking about our 'toxic masculinity'

    Its akin to saying "let's teach muslims not to be terrorists", and no-one is saying that... for a good reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    Kimsang wrote: »
    Yep it seems to be the feminist buzz phrase at the moment 'Teach men not to..." when talking about our 'toxic masculinity'

    Its akin to saying "let's teach muslims not to be terrorists", and no-one is saying that... for a good reason.

    What pisses me off about modern feminism is the idea that all men are somehow connected in a hive mind, and we all share the same views across this network of internalized patriarchy :rolleyes: . It’s like me saying “we need to teach all women to stop nagging men” - it’s the same thing really isn’t it? One woman I dated was an insufferable bitch for that but should I assume that all women are exactly like her? There can’t be double standards surely??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    What pisses me off about modern feminism is the idea that all men are somehow connected in a hive mind, and we all share the same views across this network of internalized patriarchy :rolleyes: . It’s like me saying “we need to teach all women to stop nagging men” - it’s the same thing really isn’t it? One woman I dated was an insufferable bitch for that but should I assume that all women are exactly like her? There can’t be double standards surely??

    Modern feminism is all about the double standards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    What pisses me off about modern feminism is the idea that all men are somehow connected in a hive mind, and we all share the same views across this network of internalized patriarchy :rolleyes: . It’s like me saying “we need to teach all women to stop nagging men” - it’s the same thing really isn’t it? One woman I dated was an insufferable bitch for that but should I assume that all women are exactly like her? There can’t be double standards surely??

    What pisses me off is that modern feminism seems to want to describe women as victims waiting to be attacked, discriminated against or not valued. Holding those beliefs will lead you to see attacks or enemies in every man.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48442934

    A strange article that brushes over the castration of boys and effectively supports it.

    Not overly familiar with this area but some of the quotes from the article are eye opening such as

    'One of the most shocking moves of the authorities was to take away children who were living with eunuchs'

    'Many of these children were actually disciples. Others appeared to have been orphans, adopted or enslaved as children.'

    'According to records, there were between 90 and 100 male children found living with registered eunuchs between 1860 and 1880. Very few of them had been emasculated and most of them were living with their biological parents.'

    So some had been castrated but that is OK?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48442934

    A strange article that brushes over the castration of boys and effectively supports it.

    Not overly familiar with this area but some of the quotes from the article are eye opening such as

    'One of the most shocking moves of the authorities was to take away children who were living with eunuchs'

    'Many of these children were actually disciples. Others appeared to have been orphans, adopted or enslaved as children.'

    'According to records, there were between 90 and 100 male children found living with registered eunuchs between 1860 and 1880. Very few of them had been emasculated and most of them were living with their biological parents.'

    So some had been castrated but that is OK?

    Yes according to modern feminism this is precisely ok.

    The same argument is made of false rape accusers. Every time the topic is brought up they just brush it aside and say 'there are virtually no false rape accusers, the number is only 2%(which itself is a lie)"

    There are literally thousands of examples of this online. A quick google of "feminism & false rape accusers" and the first article says:
    "Innocent men rarely face rape charges" which makes it ok because the word rarely was in there. (even though this is a lie).

    It seem if the narrative if one of victim-hood, even one person experiencing something is enough to warrant action, but when action is sought to help the 'victim' a wide net is cast that also includes innocent people, and feminists have no problem with this.

    Good new documentary on youtube from Patrick Graham on this double standard:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwafn2NO0mw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,203 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    So some had been castrated but that is OK?


    The politics are a fair bit more complex than that fluffy article makes out alright -


    Hijra used to be translated in English as "eunuch" or "hermaphrodite", although LGBT historians or human rights activists have sought to include them as being transgender. In a series of meetings convened between October 2013 and Jan 2014 by the transgender experts committee of India's Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment, hijra and other trans activists asked that the term "eunuch" be discontinued from usage in government documents, as it is not a term with which the communities identify.


    Hijra (Indian subcontinent)

    Kimsang wrote: »
    Yes according to modern feminism this is precisely ok.


    Feckall to do with modern feminism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48442934

    A strange article that brushes over the castration of boys and effectively supports it.

    Not overly familiar with this area but some of the quotes from the article are eye opening such as

    'One of the most shocking moves of the authorities was to take away children who were living with eunuchs'

    'Many of these children were actually disciples. Others appeared to have been orphans, adopted or enslaved as children.'

    'According to records, there were between 90 and 100 male children found living with registered eunuchs between 1860 and 1880. Very few of them had been emasculated and most of them were living with their biological parents.'

    So some had been castrated but that is OK?

    They were only men and as we know in todays society your either only good enough to die on the street a beggar or on a battlefield abroad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang






    Feckall to do with modern feminism.

    So you're saying modern feminists care if innocent men get wrongly punished? Could you please point me to one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,203 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Kimsang wrote: »
    So you're saying modern feminists care if innocent men get wrongly punished? Could you please point me to one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    silverharp wrote: »

    What a c*** - if that was my child that teacher would be getting the trophy surgically removed from their skull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    My daughter has autism, it would not end well for teacher that handed this out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    just for the record, Im not suggesting there is any trend here , chalk it up to an individual teacher who either has no filter or is a nasty piece of work but either way probably shouldn't be working with kids. It would be bad enough if it was just a verbal comment but it would have taken weeks to organise what she did

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    The worst part is that this made the news only because the unfortunate kid happens to be autistic; Nobody seems to have an issue with the fact the prize was for the "Most Annoying MALE". I can't find information if there was also a "Most Annoying FEMALE" prize; It's difficult to find more accurate articles, especially seeing as many minor US news websites are currently freaking out about GDSP and simply putting a "no can't do" blocker for European visitors.

    If the prize was just for the "most annoying MALE", well the fact the boy has his share of problems doesn't even factory in - this is a TEACHER, an educator that is supposed to be fair and evaluate students based on their study efforts and results; Someone which holds such a bias to go to the trouble of organizing the whole shenanigan should never be allowed in the field again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    It is crap that it's being ignore but hopefully something like this will make them think twice .

    I don't know any school that would have got away with this in my day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    Calhoun wrote: »
    It is crap that it's being ignore but hopefully something like this will make them think twice .

    I don't know any school that would have got away with this in my day.

    About the last part...probably they wouldn't have gotten away with something as stupid as a "most annoying" prize; However I remember clearly how during my school days, different policies were in place everywhere for boys and girls.

    From primary school (circa 1986) to the day I finished school (whereabouts 1999), there were always different rules, where girls were trusted to "do the right thing" and boys would have various kinds of boundaries enforced on us.

    For example, girls were allowed to go for toilette breaks in groups of 2 or even 3, often disappearing for the whole lesson (especially in the senior years), while boys were only allowed out of the class one at a time, and after 2-3 minutes, you could rest assured the teacher would send one of the janitors knocking on the stall door. Pretty embarrassing if you were having one of these "shouldn't have eaten that spicy salami last night" moments :D.

    During secondary school there were entire areas of the building (e.g. labs and wherever there was something valuable), where boys weren't allowed unless escorted by a member of the staff, while girls could come and go as they pleased.

    The justification? But obviously that boys are "messy", "unruly", "misbehaved"; They break things, they steal, they lie, they make noise; All of this said without a problem, seriously, straight to your face. Girls, on the other hand, were always trustworthy and well behaved...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭iptba


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    About the last part...probably they wouldn't have gotten away with something as stupid as a "most annoying" prize; However I remember clearly how during my school days, different policies were in place everywhere for boys and girls.
    As I mentioned before, a friend of mine said in her primary school class in the 1980s, corporal punishment was only used/available against boys.

    I went to an all boys school which also had corporal punishment while my sisters went to an all girls school which didn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    About the last part...probably they wouldn't have gotten away with something as stupid as a "most annoying" prize; However I remember clearly how during my school days, different policies were in place everywhere for boys and girls.

    From primary school (circa 1986) to the day I finished school (whereabouts 1999), there were always different rules, where girls were trusted to "do the right thing" and boys would have various kinds of boundaries enforced on us.

    For example, girls were allowed to go for toilette breaks in groups of 2 or even 3, often disappearing for the whole lesson (especially in the senior years), while boys were only allowed out of the class one at a time, and after 2-3 minutes, you could rest assured the teacher would send one of the janitors knocking on the stall door. Pretty embarrassing if you were having one of these "shouldn't have eaten that spicy salami last night" moments :D.

    During secondary school there were entire areas of the building (e.g. labs and wherever there was something valuable), where boys weren't allowed unless escorted by a member of the staff, while girls could come and go as they pleased.

    The justification? But obviously that boys are "messy", "unruly", "misbehaved"; They break things, they steal, they lie, they make noise; All of this said without a problem, seriously, straight to your face. Girls, on the other hand, were always trustworthy and well behaved...

    I had the same experience as you man (90-98 primary), girls let away with absolute piss taking while every fella was timed and commented on when he came back to the class. Basically every male student was a 2nd class citizen compared to the “ladies” in the class.

    I can’t say it didn’t contribute to my existing hatred of feminism because it certainly did. I had a female teacher in 4th class who decided one day to racially abuse me and make a class laugh over my surname (A foreign name, no Murphy on me) . I left school that day crying and both my mam and dad were ready to kill her over it. I met her some years later thankfully, and let her know in person what a horrible rotten **** she was.

    Boys will always be targeted in those environments, the girls can’t do any wrong until they are caught red handed and even then it will be because the patriarchy made them do it or some other vapid **** of an excuse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    I had the same experience as you man (90-98 primary), girls let away with absolute piss taking while every fella was timed and commented on when he came back to the class. Basically every male student was a 2nd class citizen compared to the “ladies” in the class.

    I can’t say it didn’t contribute to my existing hatred of feminism because it certainly did. I had a female teacher in 4th class who decided one day to racially abuse me and make a class laugh over my surname (A foreign name, no Murphy on me) . I left school that day crying and both my mam and dad were ready to kill her over it. I met her some years later thankfully, and let her know in person what a horrible rotten **** she was.

    Boys will always be targeted in those environments, the girls can’t do any wrong until they are caught red handed and even then it will be because the patriarchy made them do it or some other vapid **** of an excuse.

    Unfortunately there are not a lot of male role models for young boys in our society. I do remember fondly one of my male teachers who was so different from all the rest, who wasn't vindictive, who wasn't quick to anger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2019/0610/1054532-the-issues-with-how-the-irish-media-represent-domestic-violence/

    Article entitled: The issues with how the Irish media represent domestic violence

    Subheading: Analysis: How the media shapes the national understanding of domestic violence really matters, but unfortunately, it often tend to give audiences and readers simplistic, inadequate and distorted representations.

    Article: only talks about domestic abuse being perpetrated on women by men.

    A worthy topic, but ironically commits the sins she talks about. Not surprisingly, nowhere for the public to comment.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2019/0610/1054532-the-issues-with-how-the-irish-media-represent-domestic-violence/

    Article entitled: The issues with how the Irish media represent domestic violence

    Subheading: Analysis: How the media shapes the national understanding of domestic violence really matters, but unfortunately, it often tend to give audiences and readers simplistic, inadequate and distorted representations.

    Article: only talks about domestic abuse being perpetrated on women by men.

    A worthy topic, but ironically commits the sins she talks about. Not surprisingly, nowhere for the public to comment.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,009 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    A Dutch university will only appoint female academic staff for at least the next 18 months to improve its gender balance. In what it calls a “bold” move, Eindhoven University of Technology has introduced a new program, the Irène Curie Fellowship — named after celebrated scientist Marie Curie’s daughter — to only appoint female professors, associate and assistant professors.

    Just saw that on linkedin. That seems fairly shocking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    Just saw that on linkedin. That seems fairly shocking.

    At least its just one university! Thankfully, we can look at the results they have in twenty years time compared to the rest ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭iptba


    Just saw that on linkedin. That seems fairly shocking.
    A Dutch university will only appoint female academic staff for at least the next 18 months to improve its gender balance. In what it calls a “bold” move, Eindhoven University of Technology has introduced a new program, the Irène Curie Fellowship — named after celebrated scientist Marie Curie’s daughter — to only appoint female professors, associate and assistant professors. The university has the Netherlands’ lowest proportion of women in its academic workforce with 16% of full professors, 15% of associate professors and 29% assistant professors.

    I've looked into this a bit more and have seen it described as an engineering university. They seem to be ignoring the fact that engineering has one of the lowest proportions of female undergraduates and the like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    iptba wrote: »
    I've looked into this a bit more and have seen it described as an engineering university. They seem to be ignoring the fact that engineering has one of the lowest proportions of female undergraduates and the like.

    Actually, these numbers look fairly positive - over the years, I've been able to more or less identify the share of men vs. women in engineering, specifically software and generally IT related, at about 10%.

    I was just reviewing the CVs I got months ago when we were looking to backfill a position in my team, and sure enough - 38 CVs, 4 are women (better than the usual 10%!!!).

    Funny thing - I ended up hiring one of these 4 women because she was the best all-round candidate, not because of her gender...I wonder if I still qualify for a "Feminist Champion" medal :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    I was recently accused of being a sexist for offering to walk a female friend home.(late at night) Bizarre


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    splashuum wrote: »
    I was recently accused of being a sexist for offering to walk a female friend home.(late at night) Bizarre

    There was an article on this issue a couple of years ago. This is victim blaming. What you are meant to do is ensure you that she doesn't need someone to walk her home. Patriarchy. Simples


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    splashuum wrote: »
    I was recently accused of being a sexist for offering to walk a female friend home.(late at night) Bizarre

    Strong independent women can pay for their own taxi. Remember that next time your friend feels anxious about going home alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    splashuum wrote: »
    I was recently accused of being a sexist for offering to walk a female friend home.(late at night) Bizarre

    Lol who accused you ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    Calhoun wrote: »
    splashuum wrote: »
    I was recently accused of being a sexist for offering to walk a female friend home.(late at night) Bizarre

    Lol who accused you ?

    The person I offered to walk home ... lol


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