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Most miserable and grim towns and villages in Ireland

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    If you want grim I defy you to find anything that can trump some of the cesspits in the north - especially this time of year. Larne, Ballymena, Coleraine, Antrim, Portadown, Lisburn, Carrickfergus, Newtownards, Portrush, Ballymoney, Kilkeel. In each town you’re likely to find the same uninspiring main streets complete with welcoming loyalist flags, pound shops and empty retail units. Each town has at least one or two paramilitary-controlled housing estates where pride of place on the bonfire sits the tricolour. And don’t get me started on the villages...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,281 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    lalababa wrote: »
    Any village or small town that is not on the tourist trail or on the way to somewhere or hasn't an industry or is not a 'sleeper' for a larger town/city will decline in population and services until the tumbleweed takes over. The way farming/modern procurement of services/big roads and decline in manufacturing and above all urbanisation is going then this is their future. The only way to change the decline is remote working/universal payments....with the pull of cheap houses/little traffic/more space quiteish village/countryside/cheap living.

    Problem with the remote working is broadband services across the country are mixed to non-existent.

    Some places have no access to the internet, some have to use poor quality services (or a service is closing down, such as happened with Niall Quinn's internet company, tho I could name a few others).

    There are places in Cork where people have to sit in the church courtyard to get access to the church wifi. Their at home broadband is that bad, that they have to work from their cars.


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    pgj2015 wrote: »
    Kiltyclogher isn't a town, its a village.

    Yes, I realised that as soon as I got there. But I would imagine that based on the size and width of the Main Street that it was a market town at some point in the past.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Come on leaps and bounds over the past few years, so personally don't think that's fair, there's far worse in the county. Greenway, nice harbour, Monkstown down the road too with nice cafes.

    Even been through Blackpool Village near town?

    Is that charming boarded up convent still there?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    armaghlad wrote: »
    If you want grim I defy you to find anything that can trump some of the cesspits in the north - especially this time of year. Larne, Ballymena, Coleraine, Antrim, Portadown, Lisburn, Carrickfergus, Newtownards, Portrush, Ballymoney, Kilkeel. In each town you’re likely to find the same uninspiring main streets complete with welcoming loyalist flags, pound shops and empty retail units. Each town has at least one or two paramilitary-controlled housing estates where pride of place on the bonfire sits the tricolour. And don’t get me started on the villages...




    You could add Londonderry, Lurgan, Newry, Crossmaglen etc. to that list but that might not suit your agenda. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    County Meath is very polar. Half is very wealthy and the other half is dead. Guess which part is Clonmelon is in?

    Its like Ashbourne, Dunboyne, Dunshaughlin and Navan are commuter towns for Dublin, the rest have no industry of their own after that.

    Clonmellon is in Westmeath


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    You could add Londonderry, Lurgan, Newry, Crossmaglen etc. to that list but that might not suit your agenda. :rolleyes:

    Never heard of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    County Meath is very polar. Half is very wealthy and the other half is dead. Guess which part is Clonmelon is in?

    Its like Ashbourne, Dunboyne, Dunshaughlin and Navan are commuter towns for Dublin, the rest have no industry of their own after that.

    Clonmellon isn't in meath

    It's in westmeath


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,953 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Clonmellon isn't in meath

    It's in westmeath




    population = 1. the guy in the cow t shirt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    There's a section of Connacht where Galway, Mayo and Roscommon meet that seems to have an unnaturally large number of depressing small towns, Tuam, Ballyhaunis, Dunmore, Williamstown, Ballinlough, Castlerea. Just a forgotten corner of the country really, especially as Tuam has now been bypassed in the last few years.

    Fully agree - there are swathes of Connacht that have their fair share of miserable towns and that area where Ros/Mayo/Galway meet is particularly grim.
    You can probably add all of South and East Galway to that list as well.

    Hardly surprising since The West would be historically the most deprived part of the country.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich


    Oldcastle, Meath. It's one of those towns on the way to nowhere, you have to have a reason to go there. Insular time warp.

    I pass by sometimes and it seems a beautiful town honestly. And a lot of young people. Ballyjamesduff instead is depressing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,274 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    I think the areas which have received the greatest levels of foreign direct investment won't be found on this list.

    There is correlation between the presence of foreign direct investment, in particular Bio pharmaceutical, in a region and the standard of life. I'm thinking of Kinsale and Westport.

    When employment opportunities in a region are non-existent, educated people will leave only returning for the annual christmas visit. Whats left is a plethora of bookies and pubs, inhabited on a Tuesday morning by the usual suspects


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    population = 1. the guy in the cow t shirt.

    I think he fecked off at the start of Covid


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,953 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I think he fecked off at the start of Covid



    why? he was in the safest place to be. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,414 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Starting to think you are the head of the local chamber of commerce.

    I'm not saying Bray is the most grim town in Ireland, but if it didn't have the seafront, it would be close. The sheer volume of junkies in the town is unbelievable - openly dealing on the main street. A main street that has too many units boarded up, and even the units that aren't boarded up, arent great. A previous poster said it's like walking down a street in Dublin, that is kinda true, but you are talking Talbot Street or Meath Street - not Grafton Street.

    It has a good selection of supermarkets, that's about the best thing I could say about Bray, if you exclude the seafront.

    There are indeed some massive houses up the King Edward Road, but those folk aren't your typical Bray person.


    Bray often gets criticised, generally by people who don't know it or not from there.

    You cannot dispute it's positives as nothings just to suit your arguments.

    The seafront is a major feature of the town and the views of Bray head and from it are stunning as is the Cliff Walk.

    There some beautiful residential areas, more than King Edward Road. Try Novara Road, Florence Road, Herbert Road, Galtrim Park, Meath Road, Sidmonton Road, Putland Hill, Newcourt Road Vevay Road to name but a few.
    All decent areas with nice houses and facilities.

    The town has some fantastic restaurants, not just along the seafront and also a thriving pub scene.

    Yes there are problems and some disadvantaged areas. Like many towns it suffered during the crash and many shops are closed due to the recession, changing shopping habits and in ability to compete with Dundrum.

    New town centre will open this year and they're hoping for a revival.

    Been on Main Street regularly and never seen a drug deal happening like you say but even so can you name a town in Ireland without drugs?

    I don't know how Bray has gotten its reputation with some people. Been out and about in pubs regular and never see any trouble. I wonder do people base it on their daytrips and people they see coming out on the Dart?

    Living here for years, love the place and wouldn't want to be anywhere else, as its positives outweigh its negatives by far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    You could add Londonderry, Lurgan, Newry, Crossmaglen etc. to that list but that might not suit your agenda. :rolleyes:
    Derry actually has something going for it, (historical; tourism etc) And there are cross community efforts to facilitate the undesirables and their marches, likewise in majority nationalist towns of Lurgan and Newry, their marches are facilitated. So how’s that for an agenda? Could you imagine nationalists being afforded the same in the towns I mentioned in other post? Could you fück. They’re more likely to have their windows put in, that’s if the local foreign nationals haven’t been targeted first


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Basically any town in south Armagh. A place that reeks of diesel sludge and incest. And there is always the sounds of duelling banjos being played over the entire area. Oh and Dungannon. It makes Basra look like Monte Carlo. Also Lisburn is a rubbish non city.

    In the republic I would put forward Bundoran. It has a very depressing feel about it for somewhere so close to a nice coastal setting. I feel a lot of houses there have crying chairs that would be used frequently.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Basically any town in south Armagh. A place that reeks of diesel sludge and incest. And there is always the sounds of duelling banjos being played over the entire area. Oh and Dungannon. It makes Basra look like Monte Carlo. Also Lisburn is a rubbish non city.

    In the republic I would put forward Bundoran. It has a very depressing feel about it for somewhere so close to a nice coastal setting. I feel a lot of houses there have crying chairs that would be used frequently.

    Bundoran has been ruined by nordies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    Following on from my list of grim towns in the north; a quick selection of villages to get the juices going. In no particular order we have:
    Bushmills, Dervock, Stoneyford, Cullyhanna, Keady, Newtownhamilton, Garvagh, Tobermore, Clough, Moygashel, Newbuildings.

    All of these villages are depressing in their own right - whether it be the staunch anti-catholic/anti-Irish sentiment that you’re likely to find there or just the type of backward place time has forgotten (or both).

    Dervock though is probably the biggest shït hole on this island. I’ve never saw a more depressing place in my life. They’ve been fighting evolution there (and winning) ever since the settlement came into existence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    armaghlad wrote: »
    Following on from my list of grim towns in the north; a quick selection of villages to get the juices going. In no particular order we have:
    Bushmills, Dervock, Stoneyford, Cullyhanna, Keady, Newtownhamilton, Garvagh, Tobermore, Clough, Moygashel, Newbuildings.

    All of these villages are depressing in their own right - whether it be the staunch anti-catholic/anti-Irish sentiment that you’re likely to find there or just the type of backward place time has forgotten (or both).

    Dervock though is probably the biggest shït hole on this island. I’ve never saw a more depressing place in my life. They’ve been fighting evolution there (and winning) ever since the settlement came into existence.

    That is a fine collection of grim places, Newbuildings in particular, but with a notable omission, Roslea Co Fermanagh. Used to travel through it on the way to Donegal, and I always felt like Tommy Tiernan on the bus in Father Ted when Radiohead started playing


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    That is a fine collection of grim places, Newbuildings in particular, but with a notable omission, Roslea Co Fermanagh. Used to travel through it on the way to Donegal, and I always felt like Tommy Tiernan on the bus in Father Ted when Radiohead started playing

    Here’s a new mathematical equation that cannot be disputed

    Town born + Tommy Tiernan = most miserable unfunny c*’t and biggest sh*thole town in Ireland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    That is a fine collection of grim places, Newbuildings in particular, but with a notable omission, Roslea Co Fermanagh. Used to travel through it on the way to Donegal, and I always felt like Tommy Tiernan on the bus in Father Ted when Radiohead started playing
    It was between Newbuildings and Dervock, Dervock won out narrowly but they are both equally horrendous in their own right.

    I was reluctant to include any Fermanagh villages, haven’t been through too many to form a proper judgement. Fermanagh in general though is like one big open zoo. It’s people are like wild animals so be sure and keep the car door locked although some of the more tamer ones you can approach with caution.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    armaghlad wrote: »
    If you want grim I defy you to find anything that can trump some of the cesspits in the north - especially this time of year. Larne, Ballymena, Coleraine, Antrim, Portadown, Lisburn, Carrickfergus, Newtownards, Portrush, Ballymoney, Kilkeel. In each town you’re likely to find the same uninspiring main streets complete with welcoming loyalist flags, pound shops and empty retail units. Each town has at least one or two paramilitary-controlled housing estates where pride of place on the bonfire sits the tricolour. And don’t get me started on the villages...

    I was up there last year just before the 12th and it really was like stepping back in time. Carrickfergus with its lovely castle and coastline and sectarian flags everywhere. Bushmills up the coast another place that was just as depressing in the middle of summer. There was a bit of life in portrush but that could have been to do with the open.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    There's plenty of sectarian enclaves on the nationalist side too but I'm no expert on them as I would be unsafe there. The Markets area of Belfast which is adjacent to Belfast Central Station is a welcoming sight for visitors. Anyway we have veered seriously off topic and my nominations are still Dromod/Longford/Rathkeale as they are in Ireland rather than the UK. :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Here’s a new mathematical equation that cannot be disputed

    Town born + Tommy Tiernan = most miserable unfunny c*’t and biggest sh*thole town in Ireland

    That doesn’t make sense, dude.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Can we all just agree that Northern Ireland is a cesspit. Someone needs to just cut it off and let it drift into the Atlantic where it can be used for nuclear testing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭coleen


    A big playground for men in silly trousers.

    And a few of us women in trousers play it also and what views and if you don’t want to follow the little ball around there’s a fab beach to walk


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    There's plenty of sectarian enclaves on the nationalist side too but I'm no expert on them as I would be unsafe there. The Markets area of Belfast which is adjacent to Belfast Central Station is a welcoming sight for visitors. Anyway we have veered seriously off topic and my nominations are still Dromod/Longford/Rathkeale as they are in Ireland rather than the UK. :cool:

    Unsafe? You plan on walking around with KAT placard?

    Belfast is a city.

    Rathkeale is a kip but not exactly a tourist destination.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,608 ✭✭✭Feisar


    lalababa wrote: »
    Any village or small town that is not on the tourist trail or on the way to somewhere or hasn't an industry or is not a 'sleeper' for a larger town/city will decline in population and services until the tumbleweed takes over. The way farming/modern procurement of services/big roads and decline in manufacturing and above all urbanisation is going then this is their future. The only way to change the decline is remote working/universal payments....with the pull of cheap houses/little traffic/more space quiteish village/countryside/cheap living.

    This is it really. At one stage there was an organic reason a town sprang up. A river meets a main thoroughfare, a castle, a port whatever. In many places around the country that reason or the benefits of that reason are gone. Therefore said town should wither. There is no point in flogging a dead horse, easy said but a harder pill to swallow when ones home is said dead horse.

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Can we all just agree that Northern Ireland is a cesspit. Someone needs to just cut it off and let it drift into the Atlantic where it can be used for nuclear testing.
    Actually no it's not, obviously you know **** all about the 6 counties,parts are as good / bad as Cork , Dublin,also less drugs,and on the nationalist side anyway, druggiess are dealt with, unlike down here where dealers if death continue unhindered mostly,minus the few who were topped in Cork by the real ra


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