Saturday 21st November

Nulty · 21-11-2015 11:08am #1

I've taken Ballynagour in the Betfair chase. He's not win a grade 1 yet but his 2nd to Silvi at Aintree means hes not far off these. Possibility

idnkph · 21-11-2015 11:15am

Nulty wrote: »

I've taken Ballynagour in the Betfair chase. He's not win a grade 1 yet but his 2nd to Silvi at Aintree means hes not far off these. Possibility

I'm going for cue card in that race. Cant see anyone but CC or Silvhy being there at the finish.

ShaneU · 21-11-2015 11:21am

Turbine 12.50 Lingfield, Hugh Taylor seems very confident about it so that's enough for me

gazza1 · 21-11-2015 12:39pm

I notice Paul Maloney rides ANGEL FACE in the 1st at huntington then travels to Ascot for a couple of rides.
Going to give it a go

Francie Barrett · 21-11-2015 12:48pm

I hate going anywhere near AJ's horses, but I have to back Noble Emperor is the 2:45 at 13/2. The odds suggest a big gulf in class between it and the market favourite, but I thought when they met last time Noble Emperor wasn't put into the race at all. horse looked ever bit a novice last season, so if it can put that behind it, then I reckon it goes close today.

Shemale · 21-11-2015 1:15pm

I am pleasantly surprised by Holywell price, well worth a play, will stay stoutly and should be bang there. Ground not his preferred type but was only 9L off Coneygree on similar in March.

20/1 is huge.

Zarkandar · 21-11-2015 2:17pm

Gowran double for me:

2.45 Tennis Cap 7/2
3.20 Roi Des Francs 11/4

rossom · 21-11-2015 2:46pm

2.25 Haydock Shantou Bob 9/1 was something I fancied for the Albert Bartlett at Cheltenham and I think he looks a big price today. Conditions are ideal, Greatrex are in great form and I think he's got to go close.

Dr. Bre · 21-11-2015 3:12pm

He should come on from that run vatour

Sisyphus Mark II · 21-11-2015 3:14pm

Sorry for late notice Denali Highway in the 2:15 3-1 well fancied

Vautour won't stay Gold Cup IMO

21-11-2015 3:15pm

Wouldn't mind taking Lizzie Kelly out for a canter

longshotvalue · 21-11-2015 3:15pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

He should come on from that run vatour

That will be the only chance of getting him beat , but I still don't think he is a gold cup horse ..

Harry Angstrom · 21-11-2015 3:22pm

Sisyphus Mark II wrote: »

Vautour won't stay Gold Cup IMO

Looks more like a Ryanair horse.

Sisyphus Mark II · 21-11-2015 3:23pm

Yala Enki definately on good mark........but good enough??

Whosthis · 21-11-2015 3:24pm

Low Key in the 2.25.

Sisyphus Mark II · 21-11-2015 3:32pm

Sisyphus Mark II wrote: »

Yala Enki definately on good mark........but good enough??

Poor Venetia

HarshOstrich · 21-11-2015 3:48pm

Bad ride from Johnson on brother Tedd , he let it turn into a sprint which is horse clearly doesn't want, super ride from geraghty tho was only chance he had at winning

Sisyphus Mark II · 21-11-2015 3:56pm

Really hope Cue card wins, one of my favs

Francie Barrett · 21-11-2015 3:59pm

What a heart ROR has, just wants to win everytime.

mailburner · 21-11-2015 3:59pm

gone with conti at 6/5
price too nice

Jon Stark · 21-11-2015 4:00pm

HarshOstrich wrote: »

Bad ride from Johnson on brother Tedd , he let it turn into a sprint which is horse clearly doesn't want, super ride from geraghty tho was only chance he had at winning

Great ride from Geraghty to dictate pace. I wouldn't blame Johnson though, I don't think Tedd looked comfortable at any stage and jumping was erratic at times. Johnson did well to get him into contention at the last.

Dr. Bre · 21-11-2015 4:07pm

Cue, card could he be a gold cup horse

Gringo180 · 21-11-2015 4:08pm

If they can keep him fit for March he is a serious contender. He absolutely murdered them there.

sdoc13 · 21-11-2015 4:09pm

Cue Card seriously impressive. Back to his best.

uxiant · 21-11-2015 4:10pm

I thought the reason Joe Tizzard retired was because Cue Card was finished. They certainly look to have him back at his best now.

Sisyphus Mark II · 21-11-2015 4:11pm

If I was them would run him in Ryanair again!!!! Don't think he'd stay GC

Francie Barrett · 21-11-2015 4:11pm

uxiant wrote: »

I thought the reason Joe Tizzard retired was because Cue Card was finished. They certainly look to have him back at his best now.

It was Tizzard who was finished, he had so many bad injuries.

sdoc13 · 21-11-2015 4:11pm

Sisyphus Mark II wrote: »

If I was them would run him in Ryanair again!!!! Don't think he'd stay GC

Agree 100%

Sisyphus Mark II · 21-11-2015 4:15pm

Surely Dresden good e/w at 7-1 doubt Venetia will let the handle off after 10 lbs rise!!

idnkph · 21-11-2015 4:28pm

Opechee ew at 33/1 now...

HarshOstrich · 21-11-2015 4:32pm

Jon Stark wrote: »

Great ride from Geraghty to dictate pace. I wouldn't blame Johnson though, I don't think Tedd looked comfortable at any stage and jumping was erratic at times. Johnson did well to get him into contention at the last.

Rock on ruby failed to stay 3 miles last time and is a former champion hurdler, you can't let him set that type of pace when your on a horse stamina assured and loves the ground.

Sisyphus Mark II · 21-11-2015 4:32pm

No Planning might give a good e/w run in Haydock hard race to call 8-1

pugw · 21-11-2015 4:54pm

Delighted to see Cue Card back to his best!
I'd have to agree though they should run him in the Ryanair!

Wicklow Brave · 21-11-2015 6:00pm

Vautour needs a left-handed track doesn't he. Should skip Kempton and go for the Lexus. He'll come on a lot for the run though and Ptit Zig is really decent. Race fit, good ground and left-handed, he'll stay the Gold Cup trip (and win) imo , but the King George will dictate where he goes and right-handed and potentially soft ground, I'd fear a defeat/fall there and then the Ryanair will be the race he'll end up in at Cheltenham.

sdoc13 · 21-11-2015 6:19pm

Have had 1 pt win on my old mate clockmaker in the 8 15. 12/1 looks fair and capable of winning off this mark.

Vatour should definately skip Kempton. Needs to go left handed I would still have doubts about his stamina for a GC. Love the horse though and hope they go the right route with him for the year.

mdwexford · 21-11-2015 7:38pm

Agree with Cue Card for the Ryanair, fair play to them for getting him back near his best. Thought he was finished.

Agree with Vautour looking a lot better left handed as well. King George could be a mistake.

Bangor Billy · 21-11-2015 8:22pm

Not sure why you guys are all saying Cue Card for the Ryanair. He certainly wasn't stopping today over 3 miles on soft ground and it is looking like any previous stamina issues may have been down to the breathing problem which now looks to have been cured.

Vatour could be his only serious rival for the King George assuming D C stays at home (and who knows what is going on with Coneygree) and, given Willie's dodgy record around Christmas time, Cue Card must have every chance at Kempton. Win that and he has to have a crack at the million.

mick malones mauser · 21-11-2015 9:18pm

Been given right madam in the last at wolves tonight.

DANNY2014 · 21-11-2015 9:35pm

Had a small nibble On Michaela in the last in wolves tonite 10/1 2pt win

Sisyphus Mark II · 21-11-2015 10:02pm

I love Cue Card however I don't think any horse will live with Coneygree @ Kempton in likely testing conditions

Coneygree is 4-1 with a run for this race which is MASSIVE, this is with a run, so money back if he does'nt run. Think Bradstock is nuts going for Hennesy instead of King George especially when KG pays more!!!!

paddy no 11 · 21-11-2015 10:03pm

Just love cue card, he'll win the king George now and go to the GC, some of the jumping from him and conti down the back straight was magnificent

Sisyphus Mark II · 21-11-2015 10:10pm

Id love noting more than for him to win the Bonus. There is something so likeable about Cue Card. Backed Coneygree for last years GC so love him aswell. In my opinion Coneygree is a bigger tank so will be suited by conditions on Stephens Day.

another36 · 21-11-2015 10:13pm

Going to go with starlight banner EW in last

Sisyphus Mark II · 21-11-2015 10:50pm

Just watched the Cue Card race again. He won ridiculously easy. Have to say he's a very different beast after that operation. Throughout the race I thought Brennan looked a bit awkward on him. Cue Card also didn't jump amazingly well for first half of race. After looking at that again he looks good value for the KG @ 5-1 sure thats an E/W price. Only thing that puts me off is what happened him there before, stopped dead.

Cue Cards Dam won over three miles interestingly.

Best year Ive seen so far for NH chasing division.

paddy no 11 · 21-11-2015 11:08pm

Whats the story with, with a run beside coneygree in the betting? Is he injured? He's already had a run this season, pissed in....

PM me nudes · 21-11-2015 11:24pm

paddy no 11 wrote: »

Whats the story with, with a run beside coneygree in the betting? Is he injured? He's already had a run this season, pissed in....

He had a little niggle and him running in the Hennessey was cast into doubt

Harry Angstrom · 22-11-2015 1:03am

Sisyphus Mark II wrote: »

Coneygree is 4-1 with a run for this race which is MASSIVE, this is with a run, so money back if he does'nt run. Think Bradstock is nuts going for Hennesy instead of King George especially when KG pays more!!!!

They'd be mad to go for the Hennessy with Coneygree. He'll leave the King George behind him if he goes to Newbury next week. Not sure why connections didn't aim to start him off in the Betfair rather than that pointless egg and spoon race at Sandown. He's one of the very few horses with the versatility to win that million pound bonus, having won the Feltham at Kempton and the Cheltenham Gold Cup last season.

Sisyphus Mark II · 22-11-2015 2:11am

Have to agree with you Harry, don't understand why they are going for Hennesy at all. They should of started him in the BF, track might'nt play to his strengths but at least they would of had a shot at the bonus.

I think Coneygree is underrated as he won made all and won GC as a novice like that's out of this world. How he's not the GC fav is beyond me.

In saying that - in hindsight last years Gold Cup isn't that strong

Shemale · 23-11-2015 12:29pm

Brennan could be the making of Cue Card, that was awesome, could have been his best performance.

What is the story with Brennan, hardly gets any rides?

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