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Retention Planning Permission

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  • 11-08-2020 10:09pm
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    SheepTurtle
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭


    We are interested in a house in our area and it's a really good price with lots of potential. We haven't viewed it yet but we walked by it this evening and noticed a planning permission sign in the garden that wasn't there before. It is for retention planning permission for a conservatory in the front of the house. Does this mean that it didn't have planning permission when it was built? Do those issues cause alot of hassle and delays when buying a house?


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    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    SheepTurtle wrote: »
    Does this mean that it didn't have planning permission when it was built? Do those issues cause alot of hassle and delays when buying a house?
    It didn't have permission and the owners are playing catch up in order to allow the sale.
    Without proper PP a bank is unlikely to finance the property.


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    Geuze
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    Read the PP on the LA planning webpages for more info.


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    Darc19
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    The conservatory doesn't have planning. Probably because it juts out from the house and therefore requires planning.

    If others have something similar and it doesn't look out of place, it will probably be granted. If not, the conservatory will have to be removed


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    SheepTurtle
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭SheepTurtle


    Thank you - that makes sense as it does stick out a bit. It's awful looking actually and we would probably pull it down if we bought it.
    Does it mean the seller was asked to do it by the estate agent in order to sell it or that there is an offer in and the legal bits need to be done before sale goes through?


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    Gumbo
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    SheepTurtle wrote: »
    Thank you - that makes sense as it does stick out a bit. It's awful looking actually and we would probably pull it down if we bought it.
    Does it mean the seller was asked to do it by the estate agent in order to sell it or that there is an offer in and the legal bits need to be done before sale goes through?

    It means the seller is getting his ducks in a row before the get a sale. It’s wise thinking and will avoid delays should it go sale agreed in the near future.

    Check the date of lodgement of the application.
    It will take 12 weeks to get a Final Grant so it can’t be sold in that time frame (unless cash buyer pops up and doesn’t care).


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    Darc19
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    If you are serious about the property tell them that you would prefer if the conservatory was not there - it might mean that you can get the property without fighting other bids


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    TheW1zard
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    If youre gonna knock it anyway use the situation to your advantage


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    Gumbo
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    Darc19 wrote: »
    If you are serious about the property tell them that you would prefer if the conservatory was not there - it might mean that you can get the property without fighting other bids

    Cheaper for the vendor to apply for retention than demolition and disposal and making good the house.
    TheW1zard wrote: »
    If youre gonna knock it anyway use the situation to your advantage


    Probably too late for that as the retention application is already lodged now.

    Also, mortgage can’t be drawn until clean planning title.


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    Marcusm
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    Gumbo wrote: »
    It means the seller is getting his ducks in a row before the get a sale. It’s wise thinking and will avoid delays should it go sale agreed in the near future.

    Check the date of lodgement of the application.
    It will take 12 weeks to get a Final Grant so it can’t be sold in that time frame (unless cash buyer pops up and doesn’t care).

    Provided it’s accepted and there are no objection. Retention permission is not a given irrespective of the period for which the structure has been in place (provided not pre 1.10.64).


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    Gumbo
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    Marcusm wrote: »
    Provided it’s accepted and there are no objection. Retention permission is not a given irrespective of the period for which the structure has been in place (provided not pre 1.10.64).

    Well aware of the P&D Act ;)


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    SheepTurtle
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭SheepTurtle


    Thanks everyone for your time and answers.


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