This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

Duke O Smiley · 12-09-2020 5:56pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/classic-mercedes-420se/25921392

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Good price for a 126? 420 V8, nct expired last month, €5500

I suppose you'd never know until actually viewing it, but the fact that it was NCT'd until recently would be a good indicator at least, given the number of them going around having never been tested.

oldsmokey · 13-09-2020 8:32pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/range-rover/25471436

My old P38, sold it earlier this year. Great example that has had a lot of work done to it.

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Duke O Smiley · 13-09-2020 8:34pm

oldsmokey wrote: »

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Have you viewed it?

oldsmokey · 13-09-2020 9:29pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Have you viewed it?

Nah, but its a rr innit.?. A rolling tale of woe. Looks good tho, be a fun weekender

zinzan · 13-09-2020 9:32pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/range-rover/25471436

My old P38, sold it earlier this year. Great example that has had a lot of work done to it.

Reminds me of the Metrocab from that angle for some reason!

Testacalda · 13-09-2020 10:06pm

zinzan wrote: »

Reminds me of the Metrocab from that angle for some reason!

Their body design is related actually, I did have a book about the history of the London taxis, can't find it now, but I remember reading about the connection with the Range Rover

unkel · 14-09-2020 12:59am

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

I suppose you'd never know until actually viewing it, but the fact that it was NCT'd until recently would be a good indicator at least, given the number of them going around having never been tested.

That's the thing. A good few years ago I traveled by train from Dublin to Cork with my daughter (the ticket cost a fortune BTW and there were plenty of people on the train, but I think the only one that actually paid for their ticket was me)

Got to Cork, met the seller, drove his W126 V8 that was reasonably priced, had current NCT and looked great in the pictures (at classic car shows). I had an envelope in my pocket chuck full of cash, ready to buy the car at close to his asking price. But boy was that car a disappointment. I guess it was ok, but it was a cumbersome boat to drive, the aircon was disconnected, there was "patina" on several body parts and I was so drained and disappointed after driving it that I did not even want to make the man a low ball offer. Back into the train we went.

Never meet your heroes some people say. The W126 is no longer my favourite saloon car of all time.

outfox · 14-09-2020 11:53am

I guess no matter how good a classic car was in it's day, it is likely to be a mediocre drive at best in comparison with a modern car. A modern plastic yoke like a Dacia would probably be a nicer driver than a W126, with better climate control, handling, brakes, radio, cruise control, transmission, etc. Even a fast classic will probably be left at the lights by a standard hatch. It's just the way it is. That Dacia will be bested in 10-20 years by whatever we're driving around in then.

KevRossi · 14-09-2020 12:24pm

I think it depends on the car. Last October I drove a 1987 W126 500 SEC around southern Bavaria and Tyrol. Tight as a nut, rock solid and as good as any of the W126's I had in the 1990's. It wasn't for sale, it belongs to a mate, but because of its condition is worth €20,000.

Yes, they waft a bit, are slow compared to modern cars, and IMO every classic should have it brakes upgraded, but if they are well maintained they are still a pleasant drive.

There again, I tested a R107 300SL in NI about 18 months ago with the intention of buying it (it wasn't cheap) and although it looked great and had a very comprehensive history it was a total dog. Badly neglected mechanics over the past few years, poor brakes and the suspension was in bits. Had a new MOT of course.

unkel · 14-09-2020 12:37pm

outfox wrote: »

I guess no matter how good a classic car was in it's day, it is likely to be a mediocre drive at best in comparison with a modern car.

True enough but my second W201 Mercedes (from 1987) was very tight to drive, a real pleasure. No rattles and literally drove like a car just a few years old, not well over 30.

Slow of course compared to nearly any car sold new these days and made for comfort, not speed or cornering

This car was exceptionally good though for a car that age. Most are not.

outfox · 14-09-2020 4:59pm

I read an article above some lad in the UK who has a W124 estate. He said he really notices the difference at roundabouts, where Golfs and Fiestas leave him for dead. I've noticed it myself. The only way I'll keep up with an A4 or 3 series estate is if I floor it, and that's with a 5l V8.
Wouldn't change it for the world tho.

unkel · 14-09-2020 5:59pm

What car is that outfox? I doubt it's a 5l V8 Porsche 928

w124man · 14-09-2020 8:45pm

unkel wrote: »

The W126 is no longer my favourite saloon car of all time.

Take mine for a spin! You'll change your mind!

outfox · 14-09-2020 9:44pm

unkel wrote: »

What car is that outfox? I doubt it's a 5l V8 Porsche 928

Its a '95 W140 S500 coupe. Funnily enough, I was torn between the C140 and a 928. But the 928 I'd like is the GTS, which is pricey. I'm a Merc man anyway.

RobAMerc · 14-09-2020 9:53pm

outfox wrote: »

I guess no matter how good a classic car was in it's day, it is likely to be a mediocre drive at best in comparison with a modern car. A modern plastic yoke like a Dacia would probably be a nicer driver than a W126, with better climate control, handling, brakes, radio, cruise control, transmission, etc. Even a fast classic will probably be left at the lights by a standard hatch. It's just the way it is. That Dacia will be bested in 10-20 years by whatever we're driving around in then.

I think the trick is to admire it for how good it was for its day.

con747 · 15-09-2020 12:32am

Humber Super Snipe 1966 €1700 https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1966-humber-super-snipe-barn-find/25945060

kadman · 16-09-2020 12:31pm

That humber auto is a beauty.

Loads of character in that car, that you just dont see any more.

Pics look great..........but pictures always do.

oceanman · 16-09-2020 7:49pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-450-sl/25960380

RobAMerc · 21-09-2020 7:37am

dunno if its a bargain but its lovely ! Volvo

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steinbock123 · 21-09-2020 9:20am

RobAMerc wrote: »

dunno if its a bargain but its lovely ! Volvo

I was given one of these as a company car many many moons ago. It was not a nice car to drive at all. And the upholstery got saggy on mine very quickly, just like can be seen in the photos on this one. I seem to remember that they we’re assembled by DAF in Holland.

SmartinMartin · 21-09-2020 9:30am

Had a diesel model in that exact colour. I think it was the slowest, noisiest, most uncomfortable car I've ever owned.

Arthur Daley · 21-09-2020 10:01am

They were developed by DAF as the DAF 77 but Volvo got the design when it took over DAF cars in 1975.

These sold like hot cakes in the UK from the mid to late 80s when they were already a ten year old design. A bit of a triumph of marketing and image over engineering and driving dynamics.

RobAMerc · 21-09-2020 2:00pm

steinbock123 wrote: »

I was given one of these as a company car many many moons ago. It was not a nice car to drive at all. And the upholstery got saggy on mine very quickly, just like can be seen in the photos on this one. I seem to remember that they we’re assembled by DAF in Holland.

SmartinMartin wrote: »

Had a diesel model in that exact colour. I think it was the slowest, noisiest, most uncomfortable car I've ever owned.

Yes, I had a 440 for a shirt while - between cars car. Thoroughly awful yoke but it had a certain charm. This one even made me forget about that horribleness. I cannot think why !

Esel · 21-09-2020 9:10pm

Had a 360 for 7 years. Volvo 2 litre engine makes a huge difference, good neutral handling, nippy enough.

Yeah, the seats were not great - the frame on my driver's seat snapped at one stage...

oceanman · 21-09-2020 9:20pm

i remember having one with a renualt engine, 1.4 i think, or am i dreaming! long time ago.

tabby aspreme · 21-09-2020 9:43pm

Arthur Daley wrote: »

They were developed by DAF as the DAF 77 but Volvo got the design when it took over DAF cars in 1975.

These sold like hot cakes in the UK from the mid to late 80s when they were already a ten year old design. A bit of a triumph of marketing and image over engineering and driving dynamics.

They were a strong car, was in one when it was wrote off, rolled twice, and ended back on its tyres, the only panel and piece of glass left intact, was the hatchback window, 5 of us stepped out of it without a scratch.

SmartinMartin · 21-09-2020 11:36pm

This is just unbelievably beautiful.

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-220seb-coupe-rhd-auto-aircon-amp-fsh/26006843

CoBo55 · 22-09-2020 3:46pm

oceanman wrote: »

i remember having one with a renualt engine, 1.4 i think, or am i dreaming! long time ago.

Spot on. Same engine as the Renault 9, they put a twin choke Weber on it to try and coax a few extra bhp out of it to pull the extra Volvo weight.

Dades · 22-09-2020 9:58pm

tabby aspreme wrote: »

They were a strong car, was in one when it was wrote off, rolled twice, and ended back on its tyres, the only panel and piece of glass left intact, was the hatchback window, 5 of us stepped out of it without a scratch.

We were proper rear-ended in my dad's one when I was about 12. Again, 5 of us walked away without a scratch but that was the end of the Volvo!

Duke O Smiley · 22-09-2020 11:01pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-300e-12v-6cyl-1989/25723721

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Very nice looking 300E with reasonably low miles and a new MOT which can be exchanged for an NCT, €3950

A reasonable sum for something like this I would think

This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

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