RTÉ need to up their forecasting presentation

Macy0161 · 18-11-2020 1:29pm

BBC weather isn't met office any more is it? One of the Tory "cost savings" imposed I thought.

I don't generally mind the forecasts, but they seem to cut from the projected rainfall before it runs through the following day? That's what I generally like about the BBC weather - they give you the rain/ showers for the following day so you can have some idea, and it's a flow. The RTE forecast is just the hourly blocks like you get on met.ie.

I would think some of the newer try to give the science behind it. One of those they can't win to be honest.

Harry Palmr · 18-11-2020 1:29pm

compsys wrote: »

It's been commented on already but my two main problems are:

1. The graphics - as someone else commented the graphics almost seemed better 15 years ago than they are now. They look so poor. How is this even possible?

2. Consistency - it feels like there's a lot of personal bias in the forecasts - sometimes in the space of an hour or two a June forecast could go from "feeling mild with some sun peaking through with temperature reaching 18º or higher" to "feeling cool for mid summer, with temperatures average at best in mostly cloudy conditions'. I guess it depends if you're a glass half full person or not. But there needs to be more consistency around what constitutes cool, mild, warm and hot in each month. Similarly, one day an 18º temp on the map might be a red to convey warmth, the next day it's suddenly a yellow conveying a cooler temp - no consistency.

For me however, I've no problem with non-meteorologists presenting the weather. I find TV presenters often do a better and 'cleaner' job.

There should be an agreed forecast at a given point in the day and that forecast should be scripted for that day and read out without being "enhanced" with off the cuff wording or materially changed unless there are genuine developments in the weather during the day.

I'd love to see more attention paid to the Atlantic as it's the body which dominates our weather - show the ECM for it for say 5 days so that we have a general feel for whats coming and when.

Wanderer78 · 18-11-2020 6:55pm

Macy0161 wrote:

BBC weather isn't met office any more is it? One of the Tory "cost savings" imposed I thought.

Yea its done by a private company now, 'apparently better'!

BrianD3 · 20-11-2020 10:33am

Just noticed something this morning - when RTE does repeats of The Today Show it is including weather forecasts as originally broadcast i.e. the previous day. On this occasion it was Michelle Dillon's forecast. Given that the forecasts regularly use the terms "today" and "tonight" rather than Thursday, Friday, does anyone think that this is lazy, sloppy broadcasting. ME shouldn't be allowing this in my view. And yeah, I know it is only one day later and obviously nobody is going to decide it's safe to put to sea based on happening to catch one of these forecasts.

ZX7R · 20-11-2020 1:35pm

BrianD3 wrote: »

Just noticed something this morning - when RTE does repeats of The Today Show it is including weather forecasts as originally broadcast i.e. the previous day. On this occasion it was Michelle Dillon's forecast. Given that the forecasts regularly use the terms "today" and "tonight" rather than Thursday, Friday, does anyone think that this is lazy, sloppy broadcasting. ME shouldn't be allowing this in my view. And yeah, I know it is only one day later and obviously nobody is going to decide it's safe to put to sea based on happening to catch one of these forecasts.

The wording of today ,tonight is not the problem nor is the forecast it's lazy sloppy broadcasting by rte as it's a live show been reshown it should be indicated by the broadcaster as such .they should have a scroll at the bottom of the screen for the forecast saying when recorded they are able to do this if a competition was run and phone lines are now closed ect

Cluedo Monopoly · 20-11-2020 4:17pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

TG4 weather girls are so hot.

Does your wife ever catch you watching the TG4 weather when a girl is presenting knowing (a) you have very poor Irish and (b) you saw the weather on RTE earlier?

BrianD3 · 26-11-2020 10:27am

ZX7R wrote: »

The wording of today ,tonight is not the problem nor is the forecast it's lazy sloppy broadcasting by rte as it's a live show been reshown it should be indicated by the broadcaster as such .they should have a scroll at the bottom of the screen for the forecast saying when recorded they are able to do this if a competition was run and phone lines are now closed ect

Just looked at this again, there is a static watermark/graphic on the top left of the screen that says Replay - Lines Closed. It is much too subtle and in addition, during the weather, it is mostly obscured by a RTE Weather logo. Meanwhile we have Gerry Murphy talking about how foggy it will be "tonight".

We know that RTE does sloppy work but I'd still question why ME allow themselves to be associated with this and why they don't insist on changes. Surely the forecast could be edited out entirely. Maybe doing this (and editing out the associated weather related chit chat) is beyond RTE in 2020. Lazy, sloppy broadcasting.

Hamsterchops · 15-01-2021 10:37pm

New weather girl tonight, RTE weather @9.30pm.

"Hi there and Goodnight" is her greeting

Normally speaking they would say 'goodnight' at the end of the broadcast, really weird hearing this as the greeting.

Goodnight is not a greeting, it's a parting gift.

Gaoth Laidir · 15-01-2021 10:53pm

Hamsterchops wrote: »

New weather girl tonight, RTE weather @9.30pm.

"Hi there and Goodnight" is her greeting

Normally speaking they would say 'goodnight' at the end of the broadcast, really weird hearing this as the greeting.

Goodnight is not a greeting, it's a parting gift.

She's been on for a few months now.

Hamsterchops · 15-01-2021 11:06pm

Caught her for the first time tonight, quite good I thought, just a shame about the Goodnight (as a greeting) :cool:

Larbre34 · 15-01-2021 11:24pm

Ye have little to be worrying about, feckin greetings ffs.

Both Elizabeth Coleman and Linda Hughes have been great additions to the professional meteorologists presenting on RTÉ, both clear and concise.

Its Joanna that still bugs me, contriving her style like she's on at the Gaiety. She trips herself up almost every time she's on, just give us the weather, not a song and dance.

Hamsterchops · 15-01-2021 11:31pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

Its Joanna that still bugs me, contriving her style like she's on at the Gaiety. She trips herself up almost every time she's on, just give us the weather, not a song and dance.

I know what you mean, but at least she's more on top of her brief, unlike the Ryan girl who's really not suited to TV weather forecasting, bless her.

Always uneasy and unsettled in her way.

I think by and large the latest/new crop of RTE weather presenters (Coleman & Hughes Inc) are very professional.

NIMAN · 15-01-2021 11:31pm

Is Jean Byrne ditched?

Haven't seen her present the weather in ages.

Harry Palmr · 16-01-2021 12:49am

NIMAN wrote: »

Is Jean Byrne ditched?

Haven't seen her present the weather in ages.

Nope still on.

Tonight's faux pas was less saying good night at the start than it was headlining a wet Tuesday in her opening summary but then ending the forecast with Monday! :mad:

Tyrone212 · 16-01-2021 12:53am

Evelyn Cusack was the best weather presenter in my opinion. I know she's the boss now so not on but I miss her forecasts. Occasionally she would cover extreme weather events from around the world as well.

Bsal · 16-01-2021 2:32am

Bring back Gerald Fleming I say

spookwoman · 16-01-2021 4:25am

Tyrone212 wrote: »

Evelyn Cusack was the best weather presenter in my opinion. I know she's the boss now so not on but I miss her forecasts. Occasionally she would cover extreme weather events from around the world as well.

She was good but she did sound half cut sometimes

Pangea · 16-01-2021 7:57am

Is Joan Blackburn or John. Eagleton involved with Met Éireann anymore?

Edit I see John retired

https://twitter.com/MetEireann/status/1178742786323091456?s=19

Larbre34 · 16-01-2021 1:03pm

Pangea wrote: »

Is Joan Blackburn or John. Eagleton involved with Met Éireann anymore?

Edit I see John retired

https://twitter.com/MetEireann/status/1178742786323091456?s=19

Joan would be well up to retirement age too I would think, shes probably gone a while.

Gaoth Laidir · 16-01-2021 2:12pm

Pangea wrote: »

Is Joan Blackburn or John. Eagleton involved with Met Éireann anymore?

Edit I see John retired

https://twitter.com/MetEireann/status/1178742786323091456?s=19

Joan still does some radio broadcasts.

esposito · 16-01-2021 2:20pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Joan still does some radio broadcasts.

I miss Jean Byrne. Hope she’s back on our screens soon.

Gaoth Laidir · 16-01-2021 2:42pm

esposito wrote: »

I miss Jean Byrne. Hope she’s back on our screens soon.

She was on about a week ago, iirc.

highdef · 16-01-2021 2:44pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

She was on about a week ago, iirc.

I think esposito is confusing Joan for Jean.

esposito · 16-01-2021 3:13pm

highdef wrote: »

I think esposito is confusing Joan for Jean.

No I meant jet black hair, big gulp, fashionista Jean

I haven't seen her on our tv screens for a good while now.

TheRiverman · 16-01-2021 3:50pm

Hamsterchops wrote: »

New weather girl tonight, RTE weather @9.30pm.

"Hi there and Goodnight" is her greeting

Normally speaking they would say 'goodnight' at the end of the broadcast, really weird hearing this as the greeting.

Goodnight is not a greeting, it's a parting gift.

It's better than some of them saying good evening
at 9 30 pm in Winter or Eileen Dunne always starting the News at 9 with " Good evening on the 9 o'clock News tonight".

Hamsterchops · 17-01-2021 12:26pm

TheRiverman wrote: »

It's better than some of them saying good evening
at 9 30 pm in Winter or Eileen Dunne always starting the News at 9 with " Good evening on the 9 o'clock News tonight".

No, my point being 'Good Night' is not a greeting, it's a parting remark at the end of a conversation.

When you meet someone at night you don't say Hi and Goodnight, or if you receive a phonecall at night you don't start off by saying hello there and 'Goodnight', do you.

Goodnight is a parting, an ending, at the finish of the conversation or broadcast.

An Ri rua · 17-01-2021 1:28pm

Hamsterchops wrote: »

No, my point being 'Good Night' is not a greeting, it's a parting remark at the end of a conversation.

When you meet someone at night you don't say Hi and Goodnight, or if you receive a phonecall at night you don't start off by saying hello there and 'Goodnight', do you.

Goodnight is a parting, an ending, at the finish of the conversation or broadcast.

The presenters have a certain Moneypenny quality about them. Clearly smart and often sexy. So a Ms Goodnight is fine by me and I won't be holding them to account over it. 'Weather' you do or not is another matter entirely.

Hamsterchops · 19-01-2021 3:37pm

That girl Hughes (Linda)? did the RTE weather forecast yesterday after the 9pm news. Very pleasant, sure footed, informative, crystals clear, and professional IMO.

Top marks to her.

Comhrá · 19-01-2021 4:43pm

Hamsterchops wrote: »

That girl Hughes (Linda)? did the RTE weather forecast yesterday after the 9pm news. Very pleasant, sure footed, informative, crystals clear, and professional IMO.

Top marks to her.

I noticed the same. I thought she gave a very good presentation, very professional, confident and polished throughout.

Billcarson · 19-01-2021 9:39pm

14.00 minutes in, my favourite weather forecaster when I was a kid ,Paddy McHugh.

https://youtu.be/qMEILL38iFs

Comhrá · 21-01-2021 12:34am

Billcarson wrote: »

14.00 minutes in, my favourite weather forecaster when I was a kid ,Paddy McHugh.

https://youtu.be/qMEILL38iFs

That was a great watch. Thanks for posting.

Dickie10 · 21-01-2021 12:52am

that girl with ginger hair is poor enough very stuttry

Dickie10 · 21-01-2021 12:56am

joanna donnelly, very unsure of herself always

Hamsterchops · 07-02-2021 10:27pm

Oh no, it's Elizabeth "Hi there & Goodnight"

I wish somebody would have a quiet word with her. I mean she's grand and she conveys the forecast in a professional manner, she also ends the weather forecast perfectly well with goodnight, so it's just a shame about the "greeting" :cool:

Larbre34 · 07-02-2021 10:40pm

Ffs.

jackrussel · 07-02-2021 11:51pm

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Oh no, it's Elizabeth "Hi there & Goodnight"

I wish somebody would have a quiet word with her. I mean she's grand and she conveys the forecast in a professional manner, she also ends the weather forecast perfectly well with goodnight, so it's just a shame about the "greeting" :cool:

Please say you’re joking? If you’re not, have a word with yourself.

Billcarson · 06-03-2021 11:54am

Gerry Scully 13 minutes 50 seconds in. New yrs eve 87. This would have been near the end of that type of presentation on rte before graphics.

https://youtu.be/D9LPuNFYn9Q

Glaceon · 06-03-2021 12:15pm

I remember when Gerry Murphy started that he used to begin his forecasts with “Hello there, and a very good night to you”. He changed it after a while.

NIMAN · 06-03-2021 12:19pm

Have I noticed the new girl has stopped saying "good night" at the start of her forecast?

zell12 · 15-03-2021 1:07pm

https://www.rte.ie/gaeilge/2021/0315/1204046-athru-aimsire-do-sheachtain-na-gaeilge/

Is é Darren Ó Dubhgáin a bheidh ag cur príomhfheasachán aimsire TG4 i láthair ó Cheannáras TG4 i mBaile na hAbhann ag 18:57,
agus as sin rachfar chuig Nuala Carey RTÉ i nDún Laoghaire
agus chuig Karina Buckley a bheidh taobh amuigh d'Áras an Uachtaráin.
Helen Curran a chuirfidh feasachán aimsire RTÉ One News and Weather i láthair
agus rachfar chuig Fiona Ní Fhlaithearta TG4 ag Túr Chamuis i gConamara,
ansin rachfar chuig Donncha Ó Murchú i mBóthar na Trá.

odyboody · 15-03-2021 1:41pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Have I noticed the new girl has stopped saying "good night" at the start of her forecast?

We say good morning as a greeting, likewise good afternoon and good evening.
Why is good night considered a goodbye

Mav11 · 17-03-2021 7:39pm

Think I heard it all now “the ghrian will continue to taithneamh” from Joanna Donnelly. Brilliant I love it! Obviously not a fluent gaelgoir:D

RTÉ need to up their forecasting presentation

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