Bellator/WSOF/One FC etc events Thread

Dirkziggler · 17-07-2019 12:50pm

Autecher wrote: »

The fight is happening. It's going to be Co-Main event.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/7/17/20697495/michael-page-vs-richard-kiely-set-for-bellator-dublin-co-main-event

Richard kiely is terrible and will be finished in a round

Mellor · 17-07-2019 12:52pm

Sorry forgot to post the links.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/other-sport/exclusive-richard-kiely-face-michael-18325220

Autecher · 17-07-2019 12:53pm

Dirkziggler wrote: »

Richard kiely is terrible and will be finished in a round

I've never seen him fight but according to the article it is him that wanted the fight, he has been slagging off MVP for a while now apparently. Having a look at his Twitter now, he calls himself "The Face of Bellator" & "Previously The Face of BAMMA" :rolleyes:

Another Conor clone, though he did get the fight he wanted so it has worked to an extent for him anyway.

Mellor · 17-07-2019 1:04pm

Dirkziggler wrote: »

Richard kiely is terrible and will be finished in a round

He 3 fights into a pro career. He has no business in there with MVP (nearly 20 pro fights). But terrible is shït harsh. What sort of standard are you holding him to.

Dirkziggler · 17-07-2019 1:07pm

Mellor wrote: »

Dirkziggler wrote: »

Richard kiely is terrible and will be finished in a round

He 3 fights into a pro career. He has no business in there with MVP (nearly 20 pro fights). But terrible is shït harsh. What sort of standard are you holding him to.

Sorry mate your right I'm judging Jim against the standard of a main card fighter he isn't that standard he is prelims at best. Hes a hype train

Mellor · 17-07-2019 1:31pm

I don’t think he’s even hype. He’s starting out in the sport. And Bellator decided to toss him in with MVP. Not his fault, obviously he takes the fight, but Bellator matchmaker’s should be a shamed.

I’d imagine if you go back a few weeks this “beef” suddenly started shortly after MVPs loss to Lima.

Dirkziggler · 17-07-2019 1:34pm

Mellor wrote: »

I don’t think he’s even hype. He’s starting out in the sport. And Bellator decided to toss him in with MVP. Not his fault, obviously he takes the fight, but Bellator matchmaker’s should be a shamed.

I’d imagine if you go back a few weeks this “beef” suddenly started shortly after MVPs loss to Lima.

He's getting finished very very quickly and very clinically

Fall_Guy · 17-07-2019 1:51pm

Dirkziggler wrote: »

He's getting finished very very quickly and very clinically

Maybe, but I feel he'll be better equipped to cope with MVP's style than some of the more experienced fighters MVP has wiped out in the past.

I don't necessarily think he'll cause the upset, but he's on the old side for a relative newcomer to mma, so if he's going to make something happen and make a few bob in the sport, he'll need to take the fast track. Fair play to him for taking the fight. He's a decent striker in his own right, would be delighted if he managed to spring the upset.

rob316 · 17-07-2019 5:46pm

SBG fighter finally gets someone not a punching bag and its a ridiculous mismatch. MVP will destroy Kiely

Dirkziggler · 17-07-2019 5:55pm

rob316 wrote: »

SBG fighter finally gets someone not a punching bag and its a ridiculous mismatch. MVP will destroy Kiely

He will be retiree by MVP. But be good to see him in Dublin

TerrorFirmer · 17-07-2019 6:42pm

Typical Bellator to be honest. Hard to take them seriously, their matchmaking is just awful when it comes to what they clearly see as interests/prospects to be protected. No business having MVP v someone with 3 pro low-level fights.

As was said, not Kiely's fault obviously, and obvious he would take the fight as well. Good luck to him.

Subcomandante Marcos · 17-07-2019 8:14pm

Keily is a nice enough lad, but he's also arrogant enough to think he'll win easilly. He called for the fight and it's a nice tune up fight for MVP after gettting demolished by Lima.

Mellor · 18-07-2019 3:55am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Keily is a nice enough lad, but he's also arrogant enough to think he'll win easilly. He called for the fight and it's a nice tune up fight for MVP after gettting demolished by Lima.

I imagine he was told to "call" for the fight. So Bellator can pretend they are giving the fighters the match they want.

Has a glance at both guys instagram pages. No mention of each other until week weeks ago. They suddenly each posting about the other on-stop. Pathetic stuff from Belator really.

Subcomandante Marcos · 18-07-2019 3:58am

Mellor wrote: »

I imagine he was told to "call" for the fight. So Bellator can pretend they are giving the fighters the match they want.

Has a glance at both guys instagram pages. No mention of each other until week weeks ago. They suddenly each posting about the other on-stop. Pathetic stuff from Belator really.

He called for it in the cage after his first, second and third wins in Bellator. He wasn't told to do it by anyone but his ego.

Mellor · 18-07-2019 4:27am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Keily is a nice enough lad, but he's also arrogant enough to think he'll win easilly. He called for the fight and it's a nice tune up fight for MVP after gettting demolished by Lima.

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

He called for it in the cage after his first, second and third wins in Bellator. He wasn't told to do it by anyone but his ego.

Lol really. 1 win ant calling on MVP. Jesus wept.
I was talking about the sudden ramping up of memes on IG

Subcomandante Marcos · 18-07-2019 4:36am

Mellor wrote: »

Lol really. 1 win ant calling on MVP. Jesus wept.
I was talking about the sudden ramping up of memes on IG

He did it every time he got in the cage and won. He called out MVP. He got the fight because his three wins looked impressive against tomato cans, his only fight against a decent fighter he nearly retired.

The only reasons he's getting the fight are that they wanted to give MVP an lay up after getting wrecked, and they wanted to give the Dublin card at least one "big name" without too.much effort or cost on their part, and they have a willing can who's been saying MVPs name in every interview and post fight interview he's ever had a as a pro.

MVP probably didn't know who Richie was 3 weeks ago, he doesn't care. Richie's socil media is about as active as your grans Instagram.

Whelo79 · 18-07-2019 9:04am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

He did it every time he got in the cage and won. He called out MVP. He got the fight because his three wins looked impressive against tomato cans, his only fight against a decent fighter he nearly retired.

The only reasons he's getting the fight are that they wanted to give MVP an lay up after getting wrecked, and they wanted to give the Dublin card at least one "big name" without too.much effort or cost on their part, and they have a willing can who's been saying MVPs name in every interview and post fight interview he's ever had a as a pro.

MVP probably didn't know who Richie was 3 weeks ago, he doesn't care. Richie's socil media is about as active as your grans Instagram.

Funny how he managed to call out MVP after his 3 wins in Bellator when he has only fought once for Bellator. Some people need to stop talking absolute tripe.

In his one fight with a decent fighter (as you claim) where he nearly retired he did actually retire after it. He ruptured knee ligaments 4 weeks out from that fight and Lahore caught him in a knee bar in the first round.

The lad has done very well to get this fight, he's looked impressive in his MMA victories to date and now he has a big step up. He's an Irish and European champion in another Martial Art so this won't phase him. Time will tell if he is up to the standard.

Ush1 · 18-07-2019 10:15am

I think another factor is Kielys age (which I think there is some porky pies about:p). He can't really go for the slow build up route if he wants to make decent money.

I'll support him as a fellow Tallaght man anyway.

Mellor · 18-07-2019 10:22am

A few versions of events being spun. I don’t think the match makes sense. But me he has it. I’d like to see him win. He’s anIrush fighter on the big stage. And MVP is a clown.

Tazzimus · 18-07-2019 10:29am

Mellor wrote: »

And MVP is a clown.

There's the reason most people would be watching and cheering for Kiely.

Dirkziggler · 18-07-2019 10:29am

Mellor wrote: »

A few versions of events being spun. I don’t think the match makes sense. But me he has it. I’d like to see him win. He’s anIrush fighter on the big stage. And MVP is a clown.

Honest question: is there any SBG fighters you'd like to see beat?

Subcomandante Marcos · 18-07-2019 11:03am

Whelo79 wrote: »

Funny how he managed to call out MVP after his 3 wins in Bellator when he has only fought once for Bellator. Some people need to stop talking absolute tripe.

In his one fight with a decent fighter (as you claim) where he nearly retired he did actually retire after it. He ruptured knee ligaments 4 weeks out from that fight and Lahore caught him in a knee bar in the first round.

The lad has done very well to get this fight, he's looked impressive in his MMA victories to date and now he has a big step up. He's an Irish and European champion in another Martial Art so this won't phase him. Time will tell if he is up to the standard.

Richie has fought at least 2 times on bellator cards as part of BAMMA/Ballator co-promotions. His pro debut was on a bellator card, I was sitting about 30 feet from the cage when he called out MVP after the fight.

MartyMcFly84 · 18-07-2019 11:24am

Richard Kiely is a great fella. He is really just taking the piss.

He obviously knows how to pick a fight and boost his profile. He was going to pack in fighting all together a couple years ago . He is a highly decorated kickboxer but relatively new to MMA. He was offered a fight on Bellator and decided to have one last role of the dice.

As someone who walked away from fighting in my 30s to get a "real job" I will alway cheer for someone like Kiely who is giving it the best shot he can with what he has and doing what he loves.

Hope he knocks out MVP.

Subcomandante Marcos · 18-07-2019 11:47am

I hope he murder's MVP, and like I said, he'll genuinely believe he can.
But I reckon he'll be a another one of MVP's highlights.

Mellor · 18-07-2019 12:27pm

Dirkziggler wrote: »

Honest question: is there any SBG fighters you'd like to see beat?

I was glad when Cowley lost his debut. An accomplished striker, but ignoring jiu jitsu like that is pure arrogance.

I don’t know many of the up and coming guys on the local scene at all tbh. Never seen Kiely fight for example. When a Irish fighter breaks into the international stage (and thus my radar), my default position is to support him, unless I’ve a good reason not to. I think that’s reasonable.

Certainly much more reasonable than people blindly opposing fighters they’ve never heard purely due to their team affiliation.

Tazzimus · 18-07-2019 12:35pm

Mellor wrote: »

I was glad when Crowley lost his debut. An accomplished striker, but ignoring jiu jitsu like that is pure arrogance.

I don’t know many of the up and coming guys on the local scene at all tbh. Never seen Kiely fight for example. When a Irish fighter breaks into the international stage (and thus my radar), my default position is to support him, unless I’ve a good reason not to. I think that’s reasonable.

Certainly much more reasonable than people blindly opposing fighters they’ve never heard purely due to their team affiliation.

Queally is someone I could never bring myself to like, or Cowley.

rob316 · 18-07-2019 1:15pm

Queally, Ward and pound shop McGregor I can't stand and could never support. Lots of SBG fighters I do like though and would be rooting for. Fluery's a nice fella.

califano · 20-07-2019 6:56pm

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

Richard Kiely is a great fella. He is really just taking the piss.

He obviously knows how to pick a fight and boost his profile. He was going to pack in fighting all together a couple years ago . He is a highly decorated kickboxer but relatively new to MMA. He was offered a fight on Bellator and decided to have one last role of the dice.

As someone who walked away from fighting in my 30s to get a "real job" I will alway cheer for someone like Kiely who is giving it the best shot he can with what he has and doing what he loves.

Hope he knocks out MVP.

This is it in a nutshell. I remember his last loss talking big coming into it then talk of hanging it up after the fight with the continious knee injury and said he had a ball but what could he do with the knee.
He believes in himself but id hate him to come out with the knee heavily strapped like it was before.

Whelo79 · 20-07-2019 8:43pm

califano wrote: »

This is it in a nutshell. I remember his last loss talking big coming into it then talk of hanging it up after the fight with the continious knee injury and said he had a ball but what could he do with the knee.
He believes in himself but id hate him to come out with the knee heavily strapped like it was before.

It was strapped before because he blew it 4 weeks previous. He had no strapping in his last fight a few months back.

Whelo79 · 23-07-2019 11:09am

Benson Henderson is fighting Myles Jury on the Bellator Dublin card.

ASOT · 24-07-2019 9:57am

Nick Newell signed with bellator

riffmongous · 24-07-2019 1:49pm

ASOT wrote: »

Nick Newell signed with bellator

I thought he retired?

ASOT · 25-07-2019 7:24am

riffmongous wrote: »

I thought he retired?

I think he was just annoyed with his performance on DWTNC

EagererBeaver · 25-07-2019 10:56pm

Cian Cowley just knocked out cold.

but1er · 25-07-2019 10:57pm

How in gods name was Cian cowly knocked out from this punch, call it a day son, what's the positives for John here lads

https://twitter.com/niallmcgrath4/status/1154504382450266113?s=19

Tazzimus · 25-07-2019 11:01pm

but1er wrote: »

How in gods name was Cian cowly knocked out from this punch, call it a day son, what's the positives for John here lads

https://twitter.com/niallmcgrath4/status/1154504382450266113?s=19

A knockout doesn't always have to be a massive punch...

but1er · 25-07-2019 11:02pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

A knockout doesn't always have to be a massive punch...

I mean the sloppyness of how he came forward, shouldn't be getting caught let alone kod

themandan6611 · 25-07-2019 11:17pm

the poor ***** family, they will never ever again see him smile

Subcomandante Marcos · 25-07-2019 11:33pm

but1er wrote: »

How in gods name was Cian cowly knocked out from this punch, call it a day son, what's the positives for John here lads

https://twitter.com/niallmcgrath4/status/1154504382450266113?s=19

His credentials of winning "world Championships" on various kickboxing and Thai boxing disciplines exposed as utter horse****e here.
There's so many random invented world titles floating around barely regulated that almost anyone can win one and claim to be a world champion.
They give them away in lucky bags.

Mellor · 26-07-2019 1:27am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

There's so many random invented world titles floating around barely regulated that almost anyone can win one and claim to be a world champion.
They give them away in lucky bags.

Growing up there was constantly some karate/TKD "world champion" in the papers. Appears to be the case is virtually all martial arts that I've seen.
Wrestling and Judo maybe the exceptions, as there clearly only one real world championships.

Jiu Jitsu getting a bit silly like like that too. There real wold champions, and a hand fully of other comps using that title.

Subcomandante Marcos · 26-07-2019 1:30am

Mellor wrote: »

Growing up there was constantly some karate/TKD "world champion" in the papers. Appears to be the case is virtually all martial arts that I've seen.
Wrestling and Judo maybe the exceptions, as there clearly only one real world championships.

Jiu Jitsu getting a bit silly like like that too. There real wold champions, and a hand fully of other comps using that title.

I live in Athlone, there's a number of point karate, point kick boxing, kickboxing, and thai boxing schools and almost all of them have one or more "world champion"s in their coaching staff or membership. No doubt these lads are comitted to their training and are decent amature KB/TB practicioners, but the titles are ridiculious.

Subcomandante Marcos · 26-07-2019 1:34am

Fk_it24 wrote: »

stuff

dude, wrong thread again. I think you need to sleep after your shift :pac:

Mellor · 26-07-2019 1:51am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

No doubt these lads are comitted to their training and are decent amature KB/TB practicioners, but the titles are ridiculious.

That's the thing, It's not a knock on the lads. I'm sure they'e put in the work. But hard work can only get a random bloke so far. Elite status is different level entirely

but1er · 26-07-2019 6:00am

I know I bash John Kavanagh but has anyone got his win lose record this year? Really struggling to see his next McGregor. Pedro has a great chance

CM24 · 26-07-2019 6:16am

How legit are Richard Kiely’s kickboxing credentials, anyone know? I saw an interview where he said MVP has the better credentials for point-fighting, but Richie’s are better when it comes to full-contact.

Ush1 · 26-07-2019 8:39am

but1er wrote: »

I mean the sloppyness of how he came forward, shouldn't be getting caught let alone kod

It did look like a sort of awkward arm punch but often is the case with KOs. It's not the big shot, it's the shot you don't see.

Slightly reminiscent of Weidman catching Anderson in their first fight.

Mellor · 26-07-2019 8:55am

but1er wrote: »

I know I bash John Kavanagh but has anyone got his win lose record this year? Really struggling to see his next McGregor. Pedro has a great chance

Going off online records, so far in 2019, SBG pro fighters are 18-11-1

Make of that what you will

MartyMcFly84 · 28-07-2019 2:24pm

I know I bash John Kavanagh but has anyone got his win lose record this year? Really struggling to see his next McGregor. Pedro has a great chance

In fairness McGregor is/was a once in a lifetime fighter. Most great coaches will never coach as successful an athlete and there will likely not be anyone who will reach his levels for a long time.

John will certainly bring through more fighters, but I would not be expecting another McGregor.

He is in a very different place now as is the gym after McGregor Mania.

Whelo79 · 22-08-2019 12:50pm

James Haskell (ex-England rugby player) has just signed with Bellator HW division.

No idea of the extent of his martial arts abilities but it's similar to the UFC picking up Eryk Anders I guess.

Subcomandante Marcos · 22-08-2019 2:34pm

Whelo79 wrote: »

James Haskell (ex-England rugby player) has just signed with Bellator HW division.

No idea of the extent of his martial arts abilities but it's similar to the UFC picking up Eryk Anders I guess.

More like the wife beater they signed recently surely? Or Schaub? Both actually played a few seasons in the NFL.

Weird one though, he's no spring chicken but he'll be stupidly strong.

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