1916 Seachtar Na Casca

delta_bravo · 22-09-2010 9:35pm #1

On TG4 now, hopefully its decent. At the start of it it mentioned the occupations of the 7 signatories. One was referred to as "a cripple". Was that Ceannt?

delta_bravo · 22-09-2010 9:42pm

On another matter the narrator sounds very like Brendan Gleeson. I didn't think he was líofa

brianthebard · 22-09-2010 10:06pm

Not crazy about the re-enacted scenes.

baldbear · 22-09-2010 10:22pm

delta_bravo wrote: »

On another matter the narrator sounds very like Brendan Gleeson. I didn't think he was líofa

It's Brendan allright. I like it so far. Great that it's covering each of the 7.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0921/1224279369271.html

delta_bravo · 22-09-2010 10:25pm

Turns out Mac Diarmada was "the cripple". TG4 do excellent documentary shows which is exceptional with their limited budget, hopefully this one is good. Looks promising

Qualitymark · 22-09-2010 10:38pm

The first, on Clarke, was good - absolutely accurate that he was the revered fount of the revolution.

MacDiarmada was crippled by polio as a child, and always had to walk with a stick. They were looking for shorthand descriptions.

Not sure if the other six programmes are showing nightly or weekly.

Denerick · 22-09-2010 11:04pm

brianthebard wrote: »

Not crazy about the re-enacted scenes.

It seems to be the way with documentaries these days - throw in some Z list TV actor to spout a few lines and somehow we're supposed to get a greater 'insight' into the period. It annoys me too.

wolfpawnat · 23-09-2010 12:15am

delta_bravo wrote: »

On TG4 now, hopefully its decent. At the start of it it mentioned the occupations of the 7 signatories. One was referred to as "a cripple". Was that Ceannt?

As Quality Mark said, that was MacDonnagh, due to polio as a child.

Poor man had to walk from the front garden of the Rotunda hospital all the way to the prison without his cane after they surrendered. Took him an hour and a half longer than everyone else to get ther, but he kept his head high!

Qualitymark · 23-09-2010 8:10am

wolfpawnat wrote: »

As Quality Mark said, that was MacDonnagh, due to polio as a child.

Poor man had to walk from the front garden of the Rotunda hospital all the way to the prison without his cane after they surrendered. Took him an hour and a half longer than everyone else to get ther, but he kept his head high!

Mac Diarmada, not MacDonagh.

JohnFalstaff · 23-09-2010 9:27am

MacDiarmada became crippled by polio as an adult, not as a child. He was in his mid twenties when it happened.

Enjoyed last night's episode, actually liked the use of re-enactments on this occasion, thought they added to it. Looking forward to their take on Connolly.

Qualitymark · 23-09-2010 9:35am

JohnFalstaff, is there a good biography of MacDiarmada?

JohnFalstaff · 23-09-2010 9:53am

I would recommend Gerard MacAtasney's book Seán MacDiarmada: Mind of the Revolution. It's well researched and well written.

Although you're hardly spoiled for choice, it's the only biography out there for MacDiarmada as far as I'm aware - which is unusual considering the central role he played in the events leading up to the Rising. I think we'll be seeing a lot more interest in these men in the next few years with the centenary approaching.

Qualitymark · 23-09-2010 10:04am

Thanks, JohnFalstaff.

pinkypinky · 23-09-2010 10:07am

I thought it was excellent. It's weekly but for some reason my sky+ won't series link on it. Wasn't Brendan Gleeson an Irish teacher before he became an actor?

MarchDub · 23-09-2010 3:26pm

pinkypinky wrote: »

I thought it was excellent. It's weekly but for some reason my sky+ won't series link on it. Wasn't Brendan Gleeson an Irish teacher before he became an actor?

He taught secondary school - but I think I read somewhere that he taught drama and English.

I really liked Gleeson in The Treaty - he played Collins really well IMO. I don't think this is still around - or even been released on DVD - but well worth a search to try. I have an old video of it from back when it first came out in the early 90s.

Denerick · 23-09-2010 4:08pm

MarchDub wrote: »

He taught secondary school - but I think I read somewhere that he taught drama and English.

I really liked Gleeson in The Treaty - he played Collins really well IMO. I don't think this is still around - or even been released on DVD - but well worth a search to try. I have an old video of it from back when it first came out in the early 90s.

My grandfather (Long since deceased) taped it when it was first aired and I'm fortunate enough to have it still. I don't know if it still works, but I rewatched it 2 or 3 years ago. I think it is on sale somewhere on the internet, remember seeing an add for it.

Qualitymark · 23-09-2010 4:17pm

There's a few sections on Youtube - here's one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDQ6qR9Ow7E and another where Cathal Brugha confronts Eamon De Valera over the Treaty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99aZIm1DZVY

wolfpawnat · 23-09-2010 8:03pm

Qualitymark wrote: »

Mac Diarmada, not MacDonagh.

Sorry was tired and not thinking right!!!!

On youtube I found a song under the title Rebel Heart - James Connolly.

I have yet to watch the series its on, but it looks good. Anyone here see it already?

Dionysus · 23-09-2010 8:43pm

B'fhearr liom a bheith ag éisteacht le James Connolly ó Christy Moore. Tá sé ar fáil ar an albam Prosperous (1972). Tá sé níos fearr ná leagan ón Wolfe Tones nó grúpaí mar sin.

Qualitymark · 23-09-2010 8:53pm

Saw the first episode, on Clarke, wolfpawnat, and it was right on the spot. Looking forward to the others.

Dionysus, nach iontach an amhrán agus an leagan é sin! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj0X7nwKCGs

high heels · 24-09-2010 1:29am

Annoyed that they used the tricolour.. It was a green flag with a harp in the middle that they used in 1916... Other than that a great doc..

Stange seeing the old film footage with a union jack on top of the GPO.. Very strange..

Qualitymark · 24-09-2010 8:08am

high heels wrote: »

Annoyed that they used the tricolour.. It was a green flag with a harp in the middle that they used in 1916... Other than that a great doc..

Stange seeing the old film footage with a union jack on top of the GPO.. Very strange..

I think both flags were flying - the harp and the Tricolour.

MarchDub · 24-09-2010 12:30pm

Qualitymark wrote: »

I think both flags were flying - the harp and the Tricolour.

Yes, the Tricolour was used in 1916.

wolfpawnat · 24-09-2010 12:42pm

The was also the Irish republic flag was used, if I am not mistaken! It is seen burned a bit in a lot of post rebellion photos of the damage to Sackville street (now O'Connell street)

narky · 24-09-2010 12:59pm

high heels wrote: »

Stange seeing the old film footage with a union jack on top of the GPO.. Very strange..

I agree it looked strange alright.

I thought the programme was quite good and the reenactment scenes added to the interviews and narration. I'm looking forward to the next one on Connolly.

Qualitymark · 24-09-2010 1:33pm

I hope they bring the series out on DVD.

mikemac · 24-09-2010 1:38pm

It was excellent

TG4 do some fantastic documentaries

Wolfe Tone · 24-09-2010 1:44pm

Anywhere to see it online lads?

dmaxontour · 24-09-2010 1:55pm

I had this marked to watch a couple of weeks ago and then completely forgot :mad:.
Is it repeated at all? Or else any online links would be good. Thanks.

wolfpawnat · 24-09-2010 2:04pm

I have to use rabbit ears with my tv

TG4 doesnt come up on it! well it does but it is really fuzzy! And never in colour!

Qualitymark · 24-09-2010 2:09pm

TG4 Player: http://www.tg4.tv/ and down on the right there.

1916 Seachtar Na Casca

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