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Ennis Shield 2017/2018

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  • #52
    Vampslayer
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Vampslayer


    Any other results from the weekend?


  • #53
    Inchmove
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Inchmove


    Inchicore 4.5 Longford 1.5 Looks like 3 way fight at the bottom on last day


  • #54
    hotamatua
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭hotamatua


    Cavan 4-2 Skerries.A rare win for us gives us much needed points but the last day should be interesting with some of the relegation threatened teams playing those who are looking for the runners up spot.


  • #55
    bduffy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭bduffy


    Drogheda finished on 30.5 with the penalties applied.....but the ratings on the LCU site don't match those on the ICU ratings site for Martynas Gudauskas which are much lower and in line with board order. Will the penalties be reversed before the last round on Sunday?


  • #56
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Thought it was interesting that Drogheda kept playing the guy lower down even after their points deduction - see round 10 for example.

    But the LCU rating of 1929 is as per the Sept rating list, based on his performance in Drogheda last June.


  • #57
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Also, any result from Enniscorthy v Inchicore? It's the only match outstanding


  • #58
    bduffy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭bduffy


    cdeb wrote: »
    Thought it was interesting that Drogheda kept playing the guy lower down even after their points deduction - see round 10 for example.

    But the LCU rating of 1929 is as per the Sept rating list, based on his performance in Drogheda last June.

    But that rating dropped significantly over the year....so if you work by live ratings should the points and penalties be reversed?


  • #59
    hotamatua
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭hotamatua


    Regarding Inchicore v Enniscorthy,I believe the yellowbellies are 4-0 up with the remaining 2 to be played Saturday.


  • #60
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    bduffy wrote: »
    But that rating dropped significantly over the year....so if you work by live ratings should the points and penalties be reversed?
    No. The leagues never go by live ratings; always by the rating at the start of the season.

    Otherwise, it'd be an absolute nightmare trying to work out the 150 point rule (was a game played before or after Bunratty was rated? And was the game played before or after its scheduled date?) And a junior who gained a significant amount of points during the year could find himself forced to play on the next team up, which would mean dumping a player off that team as there's no provision for dropping down a team mid-season (and rightly so)


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  • #61
    pdemp
    Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭pdemp


    bduffy wrote: »
    But that rating dropped significantly over the year....so if you work by live ratings should the points and penalties be reversed?

    While live ratings can't be used, the player had no published rating at the start of the league, so maybe they are hoping to use the live rating as evidence the captain made a good call on playing strength, which is the captain's responsibility in the absence of a published rating.

    Not sure about O'Hanlon, but Armstrong, Heidenfeld, Ennis and BEA have all had bad/incorrect interpretations of the rule book this year, with impacts on league placing.
    While there are a few minor loopholes that allow such interpretations in some of the decisions [e.g. the rules don't explicitly say a player has to be declared on a lower team before being subbed up, but I'd imagine it is implied, as otherwise the existing rule makes no sense ], there are none I can see in this case [I was told the leagues have always used the September list after COD, but that's not what the rules say].


  • #62
    Rathminor
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Rathminor


    Enniscorthy v inchicore board 2 shows a walkover.
    Can you give a walkover on a high board but still play the other boards, or does this become a default?


  • #63
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    That should be a -1. Or it could be a mistake and be 1-0

    Best is usually to drop the leagues a line in case they missed it. (Very busy period about now!)


  • #64
    Vampslayer
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Vampslayer


    Any news on the Drogheda appeal? It should have been resolved before the last round yesterday but hasn't been. If they get their points back then they will be promoted instead of Enniscorthy. So there is a lot at stake


  • #65
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    I presume at this stage we can take it as rejected


  • #66
    Vampslayer
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Vampslayer


    cdeb wrote: »
    I presume at this stage we can take it as rejected

    Not sure about that. As far as I have been told, Drogheda are still waiting on the LCU to make a decision and get back to them.


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  • #67
    L1m1tless
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,165 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1m1tless


    Too late, sure the trophies were presented yesterday


  • #68
    Vampslayer
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Vampslayer


    L1m1tless wrote: »
    Too late, sure the trophies were presented yesterday

    That will be irrelevant if Drogheda have a legitimate claim to have their points restored and get the promotion spot.


  • #69
    L1m1tless
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,165 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1m1tless


    Can't see it happening at this late stage tbh.


  • #70
    Vampslayer
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Vampslayer


    L1m1tless wrote: »
    Can't see it happening at this late stage tbh.

    Probably right there but the LCU will have a case to answer if the Drogheda appeal proves valid.


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