Teenagers with no value for life and no care for repercussions - **Read OP**

It’s on Twitter

Sad to see this. Spent many summer days on that beach in the 80's and 90's never seen anything like this happening.

On twitter the usual nutters are all talking about New Irish and our unvetted friends being the ones causing the disruption. I watched a bit of it and all I could see was our usual skinny little dublin scumbag teenagers with the usual handbags. I know that beach attracts a lot of Brazilians in good weather and they always seem to behave themselves in groups but also don't seem to take any sh*t off Irish teenagers, unlike Irish people who tend to look the other way and are afraid of them.

I suppose you are referring to a fight which happened on Aston Quay.

From what I have read here; it does look like a particularly nasty outcome for the victim.

It happened at about 3:30pm yesterday. The victim was aged in his early 30's. There were about 10 people going up to help him after the incident according to a report in The Journal.ie.

We don't the motive yet for this incident. If it's being reported to be a large group of men involved in the attack. Would you think that a large number of them would be teenagers or older than that?

I was listening to coverage about this on Newstalk yesterday. It took the Garda nearly 1 hour and 30 mins to show up according to many listeners that dialed 999.

Many listeners (probably locals) pointed to the fact that it's likely the Garda could not get there fast due to the cycling infra around Sutton, citing there isn't enough room for emergency vehicles to pass when it's congested.

It should also be noted that there were council trucks down at the beach yesterday morning clearing up all the rubbish. (they were completely full and the beach wasn't even completely cleaned.) 🙄

Who's kids are these?

Agree, it's 100% NOT foreigners

This shite has been going on for years, so long in fact the council was prepared for all the rubbish left behind.

It's Irish kids.

Homeless man murdered by teen in ongar last night. Feral is an understatement for some teens.

Not Enough prisons/prison space has a lot to do with people getting to the stage of becoming murderers .

And some free legal aid solicitor will say the person doing the stabbing last night isnt a bad guy really( for the right Fee) !

probably not, but people don't think of foreigners raping everyone when they think of sweden either, well apart from the irish patriot brigade on twitter - that was what i was responding to

Guy who was killed was in his 40s.

It seems the Cork man stabbed has died

breaks his victims bones in a deliberate and prolonged attack, ahhh sure, he was only 16. 🙄

that’s the judicial mindset. No custodial sentence.

break someone’s bones in a deliberate and unprovoked attack. Victim has to have two surgeries and out of work for a year… 500 quid won’t pay for a months rent for the victim ..

the perpetrator has the ‘possibility of employment’… wtf sort of defence is that ? The majority of people in the country have ‘the possibility of employment’….

The ‘possibility’… you couldn’t make it up 🤪

Also evidence that the current custodial system that is focussed primarily on detention as a form of punishment and deterrence does not work.

Before anyone loses their sh*t, I want to go on record right now, that given the circumstances, this man should not have been let out of prison. I think for serious crimes such as murderer and rape, the attacker should pass a proper psychiatric exam as to whether they are fit to join society. I believe this man would have failed those tests. I would also consider that this man was possibly institutionalised after being in prison from the age of 16 to 37.

As unpalatable as it is to many, the current system doesn’t work and leads to recidivism.

There needs to be a change where the main purpose of detention is rehabilitation. Whether this person rejoins society or not is moot. IF they are to rejoin society in 20 years or whatever, for the good of society, they need to be rehabilitated. If they are NOT to rejoin society, for the good of the prison population, including guards, rehabilitation should also be attempted.

But detention doesn’t work perfectly.

It may prevent further crimes against member of public while in jail, but what after they get released? Where’s the forward thinking there?

Or are you saying everyone who is in prison for any type of assault be imprisoned for life to protect the public?

So you're saying manslaughter should be a whole life sentence, regardless of age, with no chance of parole?

If I may be so bold to ask then, why not just kill them? It costs money (quite a lot of money) to house prisoners.

And even though he has now broken his bail and agreements with the court, and a bench warrant has been issued causing more cost and work for the state, it'll be "taken into account" during sentencing. He's **** laughing at us.

He "largely abided by his bail terms"

The f**k kind of defence is that, he should fully abide by the terms.of his bail, that's the whole bloody point, you don't get to pick and choose when you sign on or what days you choose to abide by a curfew.

Any unexplained breach should be considered enough to keep him in custody, because he clearly doesn't give a sh*te and as stated is just laughing at all of us.

FFS...Not a bother on this lad by the looks of it.

Not sure about that, a totally unprovoked attack on a total stranger with serious health implications for the victim, he's going to be looking at a serious charge.

Great to see this going to the circuit court rather than children’s court. As if at the age of 15 you don’t know robbing a car and crashing into Gardaí is wrong or illegal.

Enjoyed the bit where his defence raised how he has “Oppositional Defiant Disorder” - this must be the new bolloxology catch all excuse for being a piece of shít.

“Oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) is a type of behavior disorder. It is mostly diagnosed in childhood. Children with ODD are uncooperative, defiant, and hostile toward peers, parents, teachers, and other authority figures.” - Back in my day (I’m in my 20s) that was simply known as being a brat. Yer man is also from a “loving, stable family” so none of the other usual excuses.

Will be interesting to see how things unfold.

Serious charge but a short sentence served, 2 or 3 years served at most.