Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

pjohnson · 12-05-2021 8:16am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Ah so some companies aren’t okay until they can offer you money then ? Right got it.

If the price is right Meggy would call her child Proctor or Gamble.

Everything has a price.

dogbert27 · 12-05-2021 8:20am

pjohnson wrote: »

If the price is right Meggy would call her child Proctor or Gamble.

Everything has a price.

The girl will be called Diana and photos will be sold to the highest bidder.

Ms. Newbie18 · 12-05-2021 11:10am

Apparently it will be about:

The partnership will focus on gender equality and more inclusive online spaces
The Sussexes said they would work to 'build more compassionate communities'
Couple said they were on mission to bring more 'just future for women and girls'

As per

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9567471/Harry-Meghan-team-Procter-Gamble-build-compassionate-communities.html

Purple Mountain · 12-05-2021 11:12am

Ms. Newbie18 wrote: »

Apparently it will be about:

The partnership will focus on gender equality and more inclusive online spaces
The Sussexes said they would work to 'build more compassionate communities'
Couple said they were on mission to bring more 'just future for women and girls'

As per

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9567471/Harry-Meghan-team-Procter-Gamble-build-compassionate-communities.html

More buzz jargon...

retro:electro · 12-05-2021 12:01pm

Are they actually able to speak without shoehorning the word “compassionate” in?

superflyninja · 12-05-2021 12:09pm

retro:electro wrote: »

Are they actually able to speak without shoehorning the word “compassionate” in?

Repeat something often enough still doesnt make it true

Immortal Starlight · 12-05-2021 12:45pm

“Compassionate” hahahahahahah. That does make me laugh. What a pair of plonkers.

Neyite · 12-05-2021 1:01pm

It's fairly clear now why the Queen said they couldn't remain working royals and form business partnerships/endorsements with commercial entities. It's only a matter of time before they promote an organisation and it's subsequently discovered that the organisation has shady dealings.

They've only to look at Uncle Andy to see that a mere photo or two comes back to haunt you forever more and that mud shall stick by association alone.

lrushe · 12-05-2021 9:41pm

Are the bullying allegations against MM still under investigation? If so will this guy leaving make any difference.

https://www.tatler.com/article/royal-foundation-changes-jason-knauf-quits

Be right back · 12-05-2021 9:52pm

lrushe wrote: »

Are the bullying allegations against MM still under investigation? If so will this guy leaving make any difference.

https://www.tatler.com/article/royal-foundation-changes-jason-knauf-quits

They will probably have the investigation concluded before he leaves at the end of the year.

Ms. Newbie18 · 12-05-2021 10:04pm

Be right back wrote: »

They will probably have the investigation concluded before he leaves at the end of the year.

I think there was an article last week detailing his evidence against the claim that MM received no help or support from the institute/family.

He was probably waiting for that to finish up before he left. Obviously he can be called back to give further statements if needs be.

Be right back · 12-05-2021 10:15pm

Ms. Newbie18 wrote: »

I think there was an article last week detailing his evidence against the claim that MM received no help or support from the institute/family.

He was probably waiting for that to finish up before he left. Obviously he can be called back to give further statements if needs be.

Interesting view on things!

Leg End Reject · 12-05-2021 10:35pm

Be right back wrote: »

Interesting view on things!

Good lord! That's one for the Woke thread in AH.

Ms. Newbie18 · 12-05-2021 10:50pm

Be right back wrote: »

Interesting view on things!

I was waiting for the tweets to start rolling in ðŸ™„

Ash.J.Williams · 13-05-2021 8:51am

Her mate janina seems great craic. I’d she’s an open book for body language readers too her whole demeanour changes when she’s asked a question that requires a prepared answer.

tara73 · 13-05-2021 8:55am

lrushe wrote: »

Are the bullying allegations against MM still under investigation? If so will this guy leaving make any difference.

https://www.tatler.com/article/royal-foundation-changes-jason-knauf-quits

there's nothing in this article that's saying he leaves because he has something to do with the bullying.

I believe (hope) they won't let someone, who didn't do anything wrong, go because of this allegations. I wonder how this investigations look like...How can you proof bullying anyway? If something was just said and not written down it's one word against another. Like in the 'real' world. Most of the times bullying can't be proven.

lrushe · 13-05-2021 9:01am

tara73 wrote: »

there's nothing in this article that's saying he leaves because he has something to do with the bullying.

I believe (hope) they won't let someone, who didn't do anything wrong, go because of this allegations. I wonder how this investigations look like...How can you proof bullying anyway? If something was just said and not written down it's one word against another. Like in the 'real' world. Most of the times bullying can't be proven.

Wasn't it him that brought the bullying allegations against MM to light?
I don't think he was accused of bullying though.

tara73 · 13-05-2021 9:05am

lrushe wrote: »

Wasn't it him that brought the bullying allegations against MM to light?
I don't think he was accused of bullying though.

ok, that could be the reason, I'm not that deep in this cesspit-story..:p but I thought it was MM in her glorious OW interview..

valoren · 13-05-2021 10:13am

I guess if you're working in any job then the employer has a duty of care and if complaints were made and not formally followed procedurally then they're liable under employment law?. Not sure of the in's and out's but from what I gather there were complaints and subsequent staff leaving. I think the Knauf email which was leaked to the Times was acknowledging that there was something going on and was speculating if such policies applied to "Principals" i.e. working Royals and pondering how to contain or handle it. This was when the Duchess Difficult moniker got drummed up. I would imagine the likely conclusion to this is that complaints were made, procedure wasn't followed, the third party investigators will give the Palace a slap on the wrist, those supportive of Meghan will say this was a clash of working cultures where a demanding boss strived to make public servants do some work and those critical will say that she was a bullying diva who was, ironically, protected by the Palace who didn't launch an investigation into a "Principal" bullying staff. If the Palace wanted to throw Meghan under the bus then a statement along the lines of updating their policy to include Principals will be a tacit acknowledgement that bullying happened but their policies are now up to date. I don’t think it will have any major impact because the Palace, the “firm” has already been framed as anti-Meghan and this can again all be explained away as another character assassination, deliberate smear such as the reaction when the Times leak initially happened. That narrative would satisfy the “Well I send my staff emails and texts at 5am too” Hollywood set and she'd be absolved.

lrushe · 13-05-2021 11:47am

With the sending of emails at 5am was there any more details?
Like did she send them at 5am and expect a reply at 5:05 or did she sends them and a reply at 3pm was suffice?
Just drawing on my own experience, I've received emails from work at mad hours but I'm not expected to reply until my working day starts, I wouldn't be too happy if I was expected to answer as soon as the email came in if it were out of work hours.

Ms. Newbie18 · 13-05-2021 12:26pm

lrushe wrote: »

Wasn't it him that brought the bullying allegations against MM to light?
I don't think he was accused of bullying though.

I believe you are correct. He asked if the bullying policy was only enforced when staff bullying other staff - and not when the principles (Royals) bullied staff

13-05-2021 12:52pm

Today’s press release. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9574609/Prince-Harry-says-life-like-Truman-royal-family-candid-podcast-interview.html

He didn’t know that he needed therapy until Meg told him, yet she couldn’t source any for herself?

“Prince Harry says he was 'more free' since his move to LA with Meghan, who he says encouraged him to have therapy because he would get 'angry' about things he couldn't control. He said: 'She could tell that I was hurting';
Meghan advised him: 'You don't need to be a princess, you can create your own life better than any princess'
He suffered 'vile and toxic abuse' by trolls, saying he tries to have 'compassion' for them but this is 'really hard when you're on the receiving end';
Duke knew in his 20s that he 'didn't want the job' of being a full time royal, also speaking about infamous incident of playing naked billiards in Las Vegas before serving in Afghanistan;
When asked if people he met on royal trips to poorer areas 'had more freedom than he did', he said: ''It's the job right? Grin and bear it. Get on with it. I was thinking I don't want this job, I don't want to be here. I don't want to be doing this';”

Neyite · 13-05-2021 1:13pm

Rewriting history in a big way there. He really is as thick as mince to not know that statements can be easily verified by a quick google. He's been in therapy for years before he met Meghan, he's on record as saying so. He's starting to be an awful whingebag now.

Nobody would judge him in any way if he said it wasn't the life he wanted and chose something different. There's cousins of his who've done that - Zara for example.

I suppose he's got a lifetime of "never explain, never complain" to unleash on the world, and tell us how hard he's had it. Must be tough to be down to your last 10 million quid, unemployed not knowing how you are going to feed the babbies. Should we do a Go-Fund-me for the poor chap?

ceadaoin. · 13-05-2021 2:57pm

Neyite wrote: »

Rewriting history in a big way there. He really is as thick as mince to not know that statements can be easily verified by a quick google. He's been in therapy for years before he met Meghan, he's on record as saying so. He's starting to be an awful whingebag now.

Nobody would judge him in any way if he said it wasn't the life he wanted and chose something different. There's cousins of his who've done that - Zara for example.

I suppose he's got a lifetime of "never explain, never complain" to unleash on the world, and tell us how hard he's had it. Must be tough to be down to your last 10 million quid, unemployed not knowing how you are going to feed the babbies. Should we do a Go-Fund-me for the poor chap?

That's it. its the "woe is me" angle and incessant complaining about the immense privilege he was born into that is so nauseating. It's just like when Meghan stood in south Africa, after meeting some of the most under privileged people in the world, complaining about how hard done by she was because no one asked her if she was ok.

They are unbelievably tone deaf and seem oblivious to how they come across. They must have advisors telling them this, but I guess they don't want to hear it and and that accounts for all the staff they seem to "lose".

Really what it boils down to is they didn't like their jobs so left for something more lucrative. But they constantly have to spin themselves as victims. And also he is basically ****ting all over the people and causes he has been involved with in the past through his royal/charity work. Sorry it was so hard for you Harry.

Be right back · 13-05-2021 3:04pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

That's it. its the "woe is me" angle and incessant complaining about the immense privilege he was born into that is so nauseating. It's just like when Meghan stood in south Africa, after meeting some of the most under privileged people in the world, complaining about how hard done by she was because no one asked her if she was ok.

They are unbelievably tone deaf and seem oblivious to how they come across. They must have advisors telling them this, but I guess they don't want to hear it and and that accounts for all the staff they seem to "lose".

Really what it boils down to is they didn't like their jobs so left for something more lucrative. But they constantly have to spin themselves as victims. And also he is basically ****ting all over the people and causes he has been involved with in the past through his royal/charity work. Sorry it was so hard for you Harry.

Are they so self important that they know it all and woe betide anyone that tries to correct them?

Tilden Katz · 13-05-2021 3:09pm

Be right back wrote: »

Interesting view on things!

That Twitter account be insane. :eek:

MoonUnit75 · 13-05-2021 3:26pm

Ms. Newbie18 wrote: »

I believe you are correct. He asked if the bullying policy was only enforced when staff bullying other staff - and not when the principles (Royals) bullied staff

Yes, that's what so interesting about his departure now. I wondered if it might be because an NDA would not apply if the employer ie. the royal family, asked you to speak openly about what you know. Now that he is leaving they can't force him to talk and he wouldn't be able to talk about it as an ex-employee, the NDA would then be in force.

Maybe he was afraid if he was forced to say what he knew by his current employers he could still be sued into oblivion by H&M. Completely speculative on my part of course.

Neyite · 13-05-2021 3:31pm

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

Yes, that's what so interesting about his departure now. I wondered if it might be because an NDA would not apply if the employer ie. the royal family, asked you to speak openly about what you know. Now that he is leaving they can't force him to talk and he wouldn't be able to talk about it as an ex-employee, the NDA would then be in force.

Maybe he was afraid if he was forced to say what he knew by his current employers he could still be sued into oblivion by H&M. Completely speculative on my part of course.

The Queen will probably 'remember' certain conversations should he get sued and the only defence would be to divulge private royal matters.

Ms. Newbie18 · 13-05-2021 4:28pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Today’s press release. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9574609/Prince-Harry-says-life-like-Truman-royal-family-candid-podcast-interview.html

He didn’t know that he needed therapy until Meg told him, yet she couldn’t source any for herself?

“Prince Harry says he was 'more free' since his move to LA with Meghan, who he says encouraged him to have therapy because he would get 'angry' about things he couldn't control. He said: 'She could tell that I was hurting';
Meghan advised him: 'You don't need to be a princess, you can create your own life better than any princess'
He suffered 'vile and toxic abuse' by trolls, saying he tries to have 'compassion' for them but this is 'really hard when you're on the receiving end';
Duke knew in his 20s that he 'didn't want the job' of being a full time royal, also speaking about infamous incident of playing naked billiards in Las Vegas before serving in Afghanistan;
When asked if people he met on royal trips to poorer areas 'had more freedom than he did', he said: ''It's the job right? Grin and bear it. Get on with it. I was thinking I don't want this job, I don't want to be here. I don't want to be doing this';”

I don't understand how Harry who has had therapy before, which the firm organised, needs his wife to tell him he should go again? Wouldn't you know the signs yourself?. Also, this doesn't say good things about him heading mental health charity's when he cannot recognise he needs help himself and was ashamed to tell hia family his wife needed help.

13-05-2021 4:56pm

Ms. Newbie18 wrote: »

I don't understand how Harry who has had therapy before, which the firm organised, needs his wife to tell him he should go again? Wouldn't you know the signs yourself?. Also, this doesn't say good things about him heading mental health charity's when he cannot recognise he needs help himself and was ashamed to tell hia family his wife needed help.

He’s also had a pop at Charles’ parenting skills. Looks like he’s burning his bridges! “Prince Harry today blasted Prince Charles' parenting as he poured his heart out to a US mental health podcast and said he moved to LA with his family to 'break the cycle' of 'pain' he suffered as a member of the Royal Family and needed to 'change that for my own kids'.”

iamwhoiam · 13-05-2021 4:59pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He’s also had a pop at Charles’ parenting skills. Looks like he’s burning his bridges! “Prince Harry today blasted Prince Charles' parenting as he poured his heart out to a US mental health podcast and said he moved to LA with his family to 'break the cycle' of 'pain' he suffered as a member of the Royal Family and needed to 'change that for my own kids'.”

So he breaks the cycle of being in the spotlight by being in the spotlight !!

Be right back · 13-05-2021 5:05pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He’s also had a pop at Charles’ parenting skills. Looks like he’s burning his bridges! “Prince Harry today blasted Prince Charles' parenting as he poured his heart out to a US mental health podcast and said he moved to LA with his family to 'break the cycle' of 'pain' he suffered as a member of the Royal Family and needed to 'change that for my own kids'.”

And he wonders why his security was cut.. Eejit.

Itssoeasy · 13-05-2021 5:07pm

Deleted User wrote: »

He’s also had a pop at Charles’ parenting skills. Looks like he’s burning his bridges! “Prince Harry today blasted Prince Charles' parenting as he poured his heart out to a US mental health podcast and said he moved to LA with his family to 'break the cycle' of 'pain' he suffered as a member of the Royal Family and needed to 'change that for my own kids'.”

Did he ? That’s a change from saying that Charles was there for him big time when his mother died. He does seem to be throwing bombs and burning bridges.

And he’s admitted on camera that he’s been at therapy in the years after his mother died but now he’s saying it wasn’t until Meghan came along that he went there. So which is it ?

tara73 · 13-05-2021 5:07pm

something sinister came to my mind which could be an explanation why Harry is behaving in this irritating and not really understandable manner and eventually why he really wanted to get out of the 'firm'/the RF and is burning all bridges seemingly for good:
Harry knows something (so Meghan too, and surely the rest of the close members of the RF) which nobody is supposed to know and should never go out public into this world (everybody can imagine now what this could be..). And he must have proof of this.

So all this behaviour, the interview at first, the bullying accusations, is a blackmailing game. The interview was a big warning shot to the RF. Showing we (H+M) mean business. If the 'firm' don't play along to requests whatever nature (money, still providing the highest of security, reputation, titles...whatever it is in general), H+M will consider speaking up in another interview, and that interview would destroy the RF.
It would also explain why Harry obviously didn't care much about his once much beloved grandfather, giving this disgraceful interview while that man was dying.
Harry is enraged inside, and we are just seeing him displaying the victim but it could be this rage, his revenge of the endless pain for him what they've done.

It makes also sense he's doing this now, with the back up of his wife. She most probably encouraged him to do this. Wouldn't be possible to do this by himself or with a girlfriend he can't really trust.

I know this is pure speculation, but would explain a lot of this otherwise not understandable behaviour.

Itssoeasy · 13-05-2021 5:07pm

Be right back wrote: »

And he wonders why his security was cut.. Eejit.

Well that was the UK police not wanting to have to protect them overseas.

Be right back · 13-05-2021 5:50pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well that was the UK police not wanting to have to protect them overseas.

Gossip page, I know!

Ms. Newbie18 · 13-05-2021 7:12pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He’s also had a pop at Charles’ parenting skills. Looks like he’s burning his bridges! “Prince Harry today blasted Prince Charles' parenting as he poured his heart out to a US mental health podcast and said he moved to LA with his family to 'break the cycle' of 'pain' he suffered as a member of the Royal Family and needed to 'change that for my own kids'.”

In fairness I blame Charles for all this mess..If he'd of kept it in his pants or you know just for his wife, we wouldn't be watching this car crash now.

Ms. Newbie18 · 13-05-2021 7:17pm

Be right back wrote: »

Gossip page, I know!

I believe I read a post last year that said Charles had agreed to foot the security bill for xx amount of time when there UK security was removed. They obviously thought they could make him do it indefinitely and when they couldn't...bomb interviews galore are booked in

Leg End Reject · 13-05-2021 7:27pm

tara73 wrote: »

something sinister came to my mind which could be an explanation why Harry is behaving in this irritating and not really understandable manner and eventually why he really wanted to get out of the 'firm'/the RF and is burning all bridges seemingly for good:
Harry knows something (so Meghan too, and surely the rest of the close members of the RF) which nobody is supposed to know and should never go out public into this world (everybody can imagine now what this could be..). And he must have proof of this.

So all this behaviour, the interview at first, the bullying accusations, is a blackmailing game. The interview was a big warning shot to the RF. Showing we (H+M) mean business. If the 'firm' don't play along to requests whatever nature (money, still providing the highest of security, reputation, titles...whatever it is in general), H+M will consider speaking up in another interview, and that interview would destroy the RF.
It would also explain why Harry obviously didn't care much about his once much beloved grandfather, giving this disgraceful interview while that man was dying.
Harry is enraged inside, and we are just seeing him displaying the victim but it could be this rage, his revenge of the endless pain for him what they've done.

It makes also sense he's doing this now, with the back up of his wife. She most probably encouraged him to do this. Wouldn't be possible to do this by himself or with a girlfriend he can't really trust.

I know this is pure speculation, but would explain a lot of this otherwise not understandable behaviour.

If you're referring to Harry's paternity I think you're on the wrong track.

Harry is the spit of a young Philip. If he wasn't Charles' son he would automatically be a commoner. They're trading on the royalty angle, and would become much less marketable without that, so I don't think either of them would expose the fact that Harry was the result of an affair if it were true.

Itssoeasy · 13-05-2021 7:36pm

Ms. Newbie18 wrote: »

In fairness I blame Charles for all this mess..If he'd of kept it in his pants or you know just for his wife, we wouldn't be watching this car crash now.

So it’s all Charles fault ? This car crash is because two wealthy famous people didn’t get their way in how they wanted to be in royal family and threw the toys out of the Pram.

tara73 · 13-05-2021 7:58pm

Leg End Reject wrote: »

If you're referring to Harry's paternity I think you're on the wrong track.

Harry is the spit of a young Philip. If he wasn't Charles' son he would automatically be a commoner. They're trading on the royalty angle, and would become much less marketable without that, so I don't think either of them would expose the fact that Harry was the result of an affair if it were true.

no, not referring to that one. but true, one could think of that one too, but personally I don't believe it either, once saw a pic of young Charles where there was a lot of similarity with Harry.

MonkieSocks · 13-05-2021 8:07pm

The BENCH
By the Duchess Of Success.

I have a little garden bench, with spindly spindly legs line mine

Haz and I like sitting there sloshing Californian wine.

Archie friends play on the lawn with gender neutral toys

Machine guns for the little girls and Barbies for the boys.

Sometimes Harry’s on the bench, just crying out for his dummy

While I console him with a look and our daughter in my tummy.

We’ll call her Dianna-Doria, a name we hold so dear

But those awful English tabloids will call her Dia-Ria.

Harry gets the Rizlas out, we sit and sulk alone

The Duke and Duchess of Nowhere Land

This bench our only throne

13-05-2021 8:47pm

Oh, the inhumanity. Madame Tussaud’s has moved them from Royalty to Hollywood. https://www.breakingnews.ie/entertainment/madame-tussauds-moves-prince-harry-and-meghan-waxworks-from-royals-1126628.html

Purple Mountain · 13-05-2021 10:23pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Oh, the inhumanity. Madame Tussaud’s has moved them from Royalty to Hollywood. https://www.breakingnews.ie/entertainment/madame-tussauds-moves-prince-harry-and-meghan-waxworks-from-royals-1126628.html

Lol, maybe Meg will be cast on RHOBH next?

Addle · 13-05-2021 11:05pm

If he was the heir rather than the spare, he’d have to deal with the same cr@p and it wouldn’t be the issue he’s making out to be.
So obvious this couple didn’t like playing second fiddle. So obvious she couldn’t compete with Kate Middleton.
I think the ‘firm’ is a ridiculous institution, and we may be witnessing the beginning of its end.
Megan and Harry had the chance to make a clean break without being disrespectful to his family, but they just seem to make everything trashy.
I don’t think there are any winners in this messy break up.

ceadaoin. · 13-05-2021 11:12pm

Purple Mountain wrote: »

Lol, maybe Meg will be cast on RHOBH next?

She wouldn't lower herself, she's a highly regarded humanitarian/philanthropist don't you know. Too busy saving the world, one word salad at a time.

retro:electro · 13-05-2021 11:33pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Oh, the inhumanity. Madame Tussaud’s has moved them from Royalty to Hollywood. https://www.breakingnews.ie/entertainment/madame-tussauds-moves-prince-harry-and-meghan-waxworks-from-royals-1126628.html

They should be moved to the chamber of horrors

Itssoeasy · 14-05-2021 12:21am

Addle wrote: »

If he was the heir rather than the spare, he’d have to deal with the same cr@p and it wouldn’t be the issue he’s making out to be.
So obvious this couple didn’t like playing second fiddle. So obvious she couldn’t compete with Kate Middleton.
I think the ‘firm’ is a ridiculous institution, and we may be witnessing the beginning of its end.
Megan and Harry had the chance to make a clean break without being disrespectful to his family, but they just seem to make everything trashy.
I don’t think there are any winners in this messy break up.

Would Meghan have just been playing second fiddle to Kate Middleton though ? Yes, she is the wife of the son of the future king but there’s princess Anne who is ahead of her and Prince Edward's wife Sophie seems high up the ranks.

Anyway as you say they could have just left and done their own thing and I’d say most here would have said “fair play” because it’s a bizarre set up. They wanted the best of both worlds and then it seems they figured out they weren’t to get their way so they decided to give a tell all interview which hasn’t gone as well as they assumed. It’s not a great when people on an Irish message board know more of the rules of the royal family then members of it.

And no there’s no winners and also the fact the interview aired when in hindsight it’s clear Prince Philip was on the way out, has soured the British public more. Blotted the copybook there.

Lashes28 · 14-05-2021 6:54am

They are more in the spotlight now than when they were in the Royal Family,every interview and appearanve is being reported everywhere.

I wonder if they will do an Ok spread for when the baby is born.

Addle · 14-05-2021 7:10am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Would Meghan have just been playing second fiddle to Kate Middleton though ? Yes, she is the wife of the son of the future king but there’s princess Anne who is ahead of her and Prince Edward's wife Sophie seems high up the ranks.

The older William and Kate’s kids get, the less interest there’ll be in the original spare, and his family.
The linleys and chattos can go about their business with v little attention paid up them.
Do meg and Harry think they can start their own Camelot in Hollywood?

Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

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