Assembly

obi604 · 30-05-2020 1:22pm #1

I am assembling a bloody play tower today.

A jungle gym jungle club play house

I am laying out all the parts to make sure all is ok.

See this link.

https://imgur.com/a/Rtw6c0N

The first page is fine, easy to understand. Only has 1 column that details the quantities of each piece of wood.

I can’t make For the life of me make sense of the second page. It has 3 columns with different figures and I can’t make it out. Can any of ye?

Jacovs · 30-05-2020 1:33pm

There should be a total of 54 (15 + 18 + 21) planks all with a length of 124cm. Of those 54 there are 15 that are between 13-14.5cm high; 18 that are between 11-13cm high and the last 21 that are between 9-11cm high.

Do the same for the 110cm, 94cm and 60cm planks.

obi604 · 30-05-2020 1:46pm

Jacovs wrote: »

There should be a total of 54 (15 + 18 + 21) planks all with a length of 124cm. Of those 54 there are 15 that are between 13-14.5cm high; 18 that are between 11-13cm high and the last 21 that are between 9-11cm high.

Do the same for the 110cm, 94cm and 60cm planks.

THANK YOU.

This is the thing.

There is only 21 of the 124 length
8 of the 110 length
10 of the 94 length
18 of the 60 length.

The overall diagram seems to indicate way less of the 124’s are needed.

https://imgur.com/a/SDBrGGT

Jacovs · 30-05-2020 1:49pm

obi604 wrote: »

THANK YOU.

This is the thing.

There is only 21 of the 124 length
8 of the 110 length
10 of the 94 length
18 of the 60 length.

Looks like you were left short then unfortunately.

obi604 · 30-05-2020 1:50pm

Jacovs wrote: »

Looks like you were left short then unfortunately.

Looking at tj The overall diagram - it seems to indicate that I only need 14 of the 124cm length

https://imgur.com/a/SDBrGGT

Manual here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2E5za4BmnrfX0kyTEJNcnpuUU0/view

Jacovs · 30-05-2020 2:11pm

I see what you mean about only 14 of the 124 needed.

I can only suggest before starting, you lay out the pieces for each step in the instructions and see if you have everything needed.

obi604 · 30-05-2020 2:13pm

Jacovs wrote: »

I see what you mean about only 14 of the 124 needed.

I can only suggest before starting, you lay out the pieces for each step in the instructions and see if you have everything needed.

Grand. Will do. Thanks !!!

But that page to me does not seem very valid.

Jacovs · 30-05-2020 2:33pm

Numbers dont make sense at all. But hopefully its all there and throw up a pic when its done.

How much was it and from who, if you can say?

obi604 · 30-05-2020 3:52pm

Jacovs wrote: »

Numbers dont make sense at all. But hopefully its all there and throw up a pic when its done.

How much was it and from who, if you can say?

570 from a fuel merchant lad who just delivers. We got it quicker via him, otherwise a 4 week wait.

Getting there now with it. Slow work!

chooseusername · 30-05-2020 4:21pm

obi604 wrote: »

Grand. Will do. Thanks !!!

But that page to me does not seem very valid.

On page 5 the 124 cm long boards come in 3 different widths
if 14.5mm you'll need 15 of them
13 mm you need 18
or if 11 mm you'll need 21,
it looks like you got the 11mm ones.
The same with the 94cms and the 60cms ones,
The narrower the boards, the more you'll need.

I think!!

obi604 · 30-05-2020 9:18pm

chooseusername wrote: »

On page 5 the 124 cm long boards come in 3 different widths
if 14.5mm you'll need 15 of them
13 mm you need 18
or if 11 mm you'll need 21,
it looks like you got the 11mm ones.
The same with the 94cms and the 60cms ones,
The narrower the boards, the more you'll need.

I think!!

Thank you. They don’t make it easy !!!

chooseusername · 30-05-2020 9:51pm

obi604 wrote: »

Thank you. They don’t make it easy !!!

Did you get it sorted?
A pic would be good.
It looks like a good piece of kit.

krazyklown · 30-05-2020 10:07pm

sorry to hijack the thread but can i ask where you got this and how it cost? Thanks.

obi604 · 30-05-2020 10:20pm

chooseusername wrote: »

Did you get it sorted?
A pic would be good.
It looks like a good piece of kit.

Gave up for today. Slowly getting there, doing it on my own so tricky enough.

obi604 · 30-05-2020 10:25pm

krazyklown wrote: »

sorry to hijack the thread but can i ask where you got this and how it cost? Thanks.

570 from a fuel merchant lad who just delivers it, kins of like a reseller I guess. In Galway. We got it quicker via him, otherwise a 4 week wait.

obi604 · 30-05-2020 10:28pm

chooseusername wrote: »

Did you get it sorted?
A pic would be good.
It looks like a good piece of kit.

The stages throughout the day

https://imgur.com/a/KKzsjl4

Looking back on it now, looks easy ‘how could it take all day’ etc. But it’s painfully slow on your own and trying to understand the bloody manual.

GinSoaked · 30-05-2020 10:58pm

Wow that takes "Some assembly required" to a whole new level.

ffs short of cutting the wood to length and bundling it up what have the manufacturers done?

obi604 · 30-05-2020 11:01pm

GinSoaked wrote: »

Wow that takes "Some assembly required" to a whole new level.

ffs short of cutting the wood to length and bundling it up what have the manufacturers done?

Cutting the woods to length - are you taking the p1ss

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Some of it is not even cut to length.

I had to cut a good few pieces of wood to size with my own saw. Maybe sawing off 5-10cm here and there. Then even having to drill 24.5mm holes for the ladder rungs. No pilot holes whatsoever anywhere. loads of measuring. Hardship. And not even finished yet

GinSoaked · 30-05-2020 11:14pm

Expected the pieces to be predrilled :eek:

If you don't predrill all the holes near the edges you risk splitting the timber particularly if the timber is really dry.

obi604 · 30-05-2020 11:15pm

obi604 wrote: »

Looking at tj The overall diagram - it seems to indicate that I only need 14 of the 124cm length

https://imgur.com/a/SDBrGGT

Manual here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2E5za4BmnrfX0kyTEJNcnpuUU0/view

Very last instruction on page 11. Step 8 E.

Telling me to drill a screw in to the wood And then in to the ladder steps. (I think) The ladder steps are made of steel and the bloody screw won’t penetrate it, just goes blunt. Double checked and it is the screw I’m supposed to use.

Annoying.

obi604 · 30-05-2020 11:17pm

GinSoaked wrote: »

Expected the pieces to be predrilled :eek:

If you don't predrill all the holes near the edges you risk splitting the timber particularly if the timber is really dry.

Yeah. I had a couple of issues with splitting. I Try to stay away From the grain. I don’t understand your tip.

GinSoaked · 30-05-2020 11:46pm

obi604 wrote: »

Yeah. I had a couple of issues with splitting. I Try to stay away From the grain. I don’t understand your tip.

If you drill a hole in the wood near the end grain before you put the screw through the wood won't split provided its the right size. You only predrill the timber you are fixing you shouldn't need to predrill the heavier uprights. You can but then I'd use a smaller drill bit.

I often predrill holes near end grain you want a drill bit just a bit smaller than the diameter of the screw and a smaller drill bit again if you are predrilling into the main uprights so there is still plenty of wood left for the screw thread to bite into.

On the 5 x 45 screws (Quantity 263 on the parts list) I'd predrill with a 3.5 mm drill bit which is on the tools list but might also see if a 2.5mm drill bit would suffice but thats just me.

Edit> Just looking at your pictures again you certainly have a timber jungle

obi604 · 31-05-2020 8:35am

GinSoaked wrote: »

If you drill a hole in the wood near the end grain before you put the screw through the wood won't split provided its the right size. You only predrill the timber you are fixing you shouldn't need to predrill the heavier uprights. You can but then I'd use a smaller drill bit.

I often predrill holes near end grain you want a drill bit just a bit smaller than the diameter of the screw and a smaller drill bit again if you are predrilling into the main uprights so there is still plenty of wood left for the screw thread to bite into.

On the 5 x 45 screws (Quantity 263 on the parts list) I'd predrill with a 3.5 mm drill bit which is on the tools list but might also see if a 2.5mm drill bit would suffice but thats just me.

Edit> Just looking at your pictures again you certainly have a timber jungle

Thanks for that!!

Will add more time to the build

obi604 · 31-05-2020 1:31pm

Q for ye. In regard to this image.

https://imgur.com/a/vQFK9A4

What are the 2 different parts for. Is one for drilling and another for screwing?

Why would you use one over the other, is it just overkill or a waste etc?

GinSoaked · 31-05-2020 3:39pm

Handy little tool but I suspect it might be a little under powered for your use in this particular project.

Ideal for going from predrilling holes to screwing if the chuck can be swapped over quickly.

chooseusername · 31-05-2020 3:49pm

GinSoaked wrote: »

Handy little tool but I suspect it might be a little under powered for your use in this particular project.

Ideal for going from predrilling holes to screwing if the chuck can be swapped over quickly.

Can the hss chuck be put on while the screwdriver bit is still in, ?
If so, 'tis handy indeed.

obi604 · 31-05-2020 6:01pm

chooseusername wrote: »

Can the hss chuck be put on while the screwdriver bit is still in, ?
If so, 'tis handy indeed.

It can ya.

GinSoaked · 31-05-2020 6:06pm

obi604 wrote: »

It can ya.

So provided you have a second battery it would be great for what you are assembling.

obi604 · 31-05-2020 11:39pm

GinSoaked wrote: »

Handy little tool but I suspect it might be a little under powered for your use in this particular project.

Ideal for going from predrilling holes to screwing if the chuck can be swapped over quickly.

I bought this today on a whim in Lidl. As co-incidentally, my trusty 18v cordless ‘worx’ that I bought in Argos about 10 years ago died overnight, as in just won’t charge the battery. So picked this Lidl one up on impulse.

Must say it’s a dinger of a thing. Happy with it.
The feckin Playhouse is about 90% done. Has me driven mad at this stage.

krissovo · 31-05-2020 11:48pm

I am putting up the XL play house from jungle gym this weekend and I am finding the instructions are loose guide only and the tolerances can be laughable with the timber. The build process is also a joke so I have had to build it completely different to the instructions. I hope I get it done tomorrow but there is so much problem solving its tough to get going at pace.

obi604 · 01-06-2020 12:05am

krissovo wrote: »

I am putting up the XL play house from jungle gym this weekend and I am finding the instructions are loose guide only and the tolerances can be laughable with the timber. The build process is also a joke so I have had to build it completely different to the instructions. I hope I get it done tomorrow but there is so much problem solving its tough to get going at pace.

Oh good jaysus - an XL

it’s taking me all my time with the small version so XL be carnage.

I think I’ve spent more time reading instructions and trying to figure them out than putting the bloody thing together.

For example, The roof in their instructions is completely flat and the slats just rest against each other, however In reality - the roof slays I got have grooves and you have to kinda slot them in to each other. (I think)

I see you are using clamps, I used them too - a god send on your own.

krissovo · 01-06-2020 12:13am

obi604 wrote: »

I hear ya !!!
For example, The roof in their instructions is completely flat and the slats just rest against each other, however In reality - the roof slays I got have grooves and you have to kinda slot them in to each other. (I think)

I see you are using clamps, I used them too - a god send on your own.

That’s the big issue I have, the instructions use tongue and grove and what’s has been delivered are slats. The house and roof both use it and its been tough trying to figure out how to lay it so it does not hold water and provide some structural integrity. The roof on the XL has no real structure and it basically rests on 4x2 timber from the roof section and theses slats in the house. I have had to design my own apex as it had no strength and we are in a windy area.

obi604 · 01-06-2020 12:23am

krissovo wrote: »

That’s the big issue I have, the instructions use tongue and grove and what’s has been delivered are slats. The house and roof both use it and its been tough trying to figure out how to lay it so it does not hold water and provide some structural integrity. The roof on the XL has no real structure and it basically rests on 4x2 timber from the roof section and theses slats in the house. I have had to design my own apex as it had no strength and we are in a windy area.

So for me, the roof instructions are totally flat slats.

What was delivered was tongue and groove. And you kinda have to reverse it every second slat. The groove is not the same the whole way.

I got a bit lazy on the roof and only used 2 screws per slat, one each side (due to the Awkward positioning of the Tongue and groove scenario).

Do you think I need to go back and put 2 more on end of the roof slats?

krissovo · 01-06-2020 12:30am

From the photos your area looks quite sheltered so you should be ok and the roof is quite short. I would add a second screw to the bottom timber on each side just to be safe as that would take the most stress.

obi604 · 01-06-2020 12:40am

krissovo wrote: »

From the photos your area looks quite sheltered so you should be ok and the roof is quite short. I would add a second screw to the bottom timber on each side just to be safe as that would take the most stress.

Yeah, Tis sheltered alright.

Thanks. I thought If anything I would need to put the 2 screws on the very top?

obi604 · 01-06-2020 5:19pm

Finally finished the Cnut’in thing

GinSoaked · 01-06-2020 5:51pm

Nice job. Anywhere you can write a review

chooseusername · 01-06-2020 6:06pm

obi604 wrote: »

Finally finished the Cnut’in thing

Well done, you.
lovely job.
have you still got to anchor it?

obi604 · 01-06-2020 6:16pm

chooseusername wrote: »

Well done, you.
lovely job.
have you still got to anchor it?

Thanks. 3 day job. I know It looks easy and it probably is a lot easier than I made It, but hard when you are on your own trying to follow weird instructions.
Thanks to all of ye for the help.

I didn’t do the anchoring yet. Looks a bit of a pain. SeemA you have to hit a metal stake in to the ground flush with the upright and then screw the stake to the upright. Not too sure yet how to do as need to hit down metal stake right next to the uprights. Will attempt tomorrow.

chooseusername · 01-06-2020 6:36pm

obi604 wrote: »

Thanks. 3 day job. I know It looks easy and it probably is a lot easier than I made It, but hard when you are on your own trying to follow weird instructions.
Thanks to all of ye for the help.

I didn’t do the anchoring yet. Looks a bit of a pain. SeemA you have to hit a metal stake in to the ground flush with the upright and then screw the stake to the upright. Not too sure yet how to do as need to hit down metal stake right next to the uprights. Will attempt tomorrow.

I think the advise is spikes are buried in concrete,could be wrong.
By the way, were all those planks and boards marked or numbered for you,
or did you have to measure to find out which was which?
I couldn't understand that min-max measurements at all.
Why could they not just cut the boards to fit the one you bought?

obi604 · 01-06-2020 6:51pm

chooseusername wrote: »

I think the advise is spikes are buried in concrete,could be wrong.
By the way, were all those planks and boards marked or numbered for you,
or did you have to measure to find out which was which?
I couldn't understand that min-max measurements at all.
Why could they not just cut the boards to fit the one you bought?

Do you mean spikes are only for a concrete sceanrio. ie. to set them in fresh concrete?

No, none of the planks or boards were numbered, had to measure them and divide them up myself, they were all
Mixed in together

Yeah, the min max thing is confusing and annoying. If instructions were clearer, I would have finished hours earlier.

chooseusername · 01-06-2020 7:04pm

obi604 wrote: »

Do you mean spikes are only for a concrete sceanrio. ie. to set them in fresh concrete?

No, none of the planks or boards were numbers, had to measure them and divide them up myself, they were all
Mixed in together

Yeah, the min max thing is confusing and annoying. If instructions were clearer, I would have finished hours earlier.

Page 25/26 of your instructions shows concrete poured around 2 of the spikes.
That would make sense , as kids tend to congregate on the higher level,
and, though you say you are sheltered, better be safe I'd say.

A slide down into a paddling pool ! lucky kids.

obi604 · 01-06-2020 7:08pm

chooseusername wrote: »

Page 25/26 of your instructions shows concrete poured around 2 of the spikes.
That would make sense , as kids tend to congregate on the higher level,
and, though you say you are sheltered, better be safe I'd say.

A slide down into a paddling pool ! lucky kids.

Hmmm. So ideally I should dig a hole and pour concrete - messy.

Or would I get away with hammering the spike in to the GRASS only and securing it to The upright.

Lucky is right

chooseusername · 01-06-2020 7:16pm

obi604 wrote: »

Hmmm. So ideally I should dig a hole and pour concrete - messy.

Or would I get away with hammering the spike in to the GRASS only and securing it to The upright.

Lucky is right

Ideally?
Yes, but your call, someone on here might have experience of these.
A friend built his own from plans, and filled the base with concrete.
But he's on the west coast.

obi604 · 01-06-2020 7:21pm

chooseusername wrote: »

Ideally?
Yes, but your call, someone on here might have experience of these.
A friend built his own from plans, and filled the base with concrete.
But he's on the west coast.

Issue is I am in a rented house. Landlord has no probs with play house itself, but not sure about digging holes and pouring concrete.

It also says to anchor the bottom of the slide with 2 of these metal spikes - but I won’t be doing this I think.

Thinking out loud, wonder could I use **all the 4 spikes** to anchor the main playhouse Structure and just anchor them in the grass.

celticbhoy27 · 01-06-2020 7:52pm

krissovo wrote: »

I am putting up the XL play house from jungle gym this weekend and I am finding the instructions are loose guide only and the tolerances can be laughable with the timber. The build process is also a joke so I have had to build it completely different to the instructions. I hope I get it done tomorrow but there is so much problem solving its tough to get going at pace.

Mind me asking where you got the ladder and what height it is? Looking for something similar

krissovo · 01-06-2020 9:27pm

celticbhoy27 wrote: »

Mind me asking where you got the ladder and what height it is? Looking for something similar

I got it from Godirectaccess.ie, its 5.6 meters in total, gets wobbly past 4 meters but Its great for the Christmas decorations and real flexible.

krissovo · 01-06-2020 9:27pm

obi604 wrote: »

Finally finished the Cnut’in thing

Looks a very tidy job, well done.

krissovo · 01-06-2020 9:33pm

obi604 wrote: »

Hmmm. So ideally I should dig a hole and pour concrete - messy.

Or would I get away with hammering the spike in to the GRASS only and securing it to The upright.

Lucky is right

I am going to pour in a bag or 2 of postcrete (its €6 in B&Q at the moment) so no messing about and then set the anchors. Then back fill with dirt for about 6 to 10 cm and then the grass sod. When you leave you can just cut the anchor a few cm's below the grass and it looks fine.

krissovo · 01-06-2020 9:43pm

My construction is just about done, I have been cursing jungle gym all day. Stupidly I added a tube slide which has more bolts than a big bolt factory and a pig to line up but the kids just had a wild 30 minutes of pure joy and exercise so worth it in the end, especially as we bought this instead of a summer holiday this year.

It was a bit of a mistake letting them slide as now a couple of the legs has sunk and level is a bit off but I will be putting in anchors over the next few days if work allows.

obi604 · 01-06-2020 9:59pm

krissovo wrote: »

Looks a very tidy job, well done.

Thank you.

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