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19-10-2018, 19:43   #1
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Making a murderer (Netflix)

Think it would be a good idea to start a discussion on this seeing as season two arrived on Netflix today.

For me this show brought true crime to the masses and increased my interest in the genre. Thought season 1 was very good if a little biased but it did give good insight into the US criminal justice system.

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20-10-2018, 14:37   #2
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I enjoyed it. As you said, it's a bit biased and apparently there was a good bit left out from season 1 regarding evidence against Avery, but it definitely kicked a whole genre off!

Looking forward to getting stuck into season 2 later!
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21-10-2018, 19:58   #3
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I’m on episode 8.... weekend binge

Anybody else in the thick of it? It’s interesting!
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Watched 4 so far, yeah its good. Zellner is pretty sharp!
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It's at a stage like zellner said, even a confession from someone else and proof they did it.. Brendan and Steven would still not be let out.

Powers that be are just too far down a rabbit hole.
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22-10-2018, 19:12   #6
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Finished over the weekend, Zellner is inpressive and to me makes a lot of good points and raises some really good questions.
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I thought she was great but I agree, doesn’t seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel no matter what they produce.
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How anybody could find him guilty beyond reasonable doubt is baffling to me.

I think he is not guilty. And definitely not guilty in the manner he was convicted of.
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23-10-2018, 13:20   #9
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I'm trying to make it through season 2 of this. I think I'm on episode 3 at the moment.
The first season was very 1 sided I thought, this seems to be continuing in that manner but maybe a bit more open.


Kratz didn't build a solid case in the original trial, it looks like he had some evidence and tried to make it stick.


I think that Zellner is so far looking at trying to discredit Kratz' evidence such as the blood splatter in the door of the jeep......but it's fundamentally saying the way you described the murder is wrong, but she is still saying there was a murder and not clearing Brendan or Avery.


There's an interesting theory unfolding about how the Rav 4 was brought to the place it was found, but again that doesn't say anything about who brought it there, just how it got there.


I'll need to watch the rest, but at the end of the day, both are still locked up.
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24-10-2018, 09:28   #10
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Watched a bit more, still no evidence to prove that Avery didn't do it.

Just some more doubt as to the prosecutions original trial and the story they painted. Also possibly withholding evidence.


Still none of this is proving innocence for me.
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It gets a bit more detailed in the later episodes. I found the first episodes a bit slow to progress.

Also, they included the list of people who declined to participate at the end of each episode because they were accused of being biased in the first season.
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Watched a bit more, still no evidence to prove that Avery didn't do it.

Just some more doubt as to the prosecutions original trial and the story they painted. Also possibly withholding evidence.


Still none of this is proving innocence for me.
To be found guilty, you need to be proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt. I don't think anyone could say there isn't reasonable doubt after season 2
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To be found guilty, you need to be proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt. I don't think anyone could say there isn't reasonable doubt after season 2

I need to finish it all
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To be found guilty, you need to be proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt. I don't think anyone could say there isn't reasonable doubt after season 2
Spoiler: That whole bit in the last episode about the coroner being excluded is crazy stuff. It really does look like the police had this all sewn up against Avery and didn't want anyone to interfere. Mental.
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Would love to know what really happened to Theresa Hallbach, looks very like a cover up.
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