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Winter Resort Report thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Frank3142


    1. Where and when you went.
    I went to samoens in france from the 3rd to the 10th of january
    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Skiing
    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Great slopes were levelled every night and off piste conditions were good (the little bit i did)
    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Went out there a complete beginner never seen a ski before but thanks to our great instructor I finished the week nearly at an advanced level.
    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    Restaurants were nice not much selection. A few bars aswell.
    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    It is a brilliant place to go there is not a lot of tourists and there are a lot of good instructors. It caters for all levels. There is a huge range of slopes for advanced stretching over six towns I think there is about 243 km of slopes.
    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Nice ice skating rink in town. Restaurants are nice. Beautiful place.
    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    There was a lot of both really.
    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    Definately would love to go back next year.

    http://www.samoens-sports.fr


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭erinn


    1. Where and when you went.
    Went sat 3rd jan to sat 10th jan to Kaprun in Austria (Near Zelll Am See)
    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Skiied!!!
    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    considering it did not snow when we were there the conditions were really good, it got chopped up in the evenings but that can be expected!!! snow plows were going all day keeping the slopes in good condition!!!
    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    intermediate!!!
    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    mose in the mountains are very good, some are mordern but there is also lovely traditional austrian ones, but tend to be harder to find!!!
    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    there is all year round skiing except for 2weeks in june when the lifts get serviced!!! your ski pass bought in either Zell or Kaprun allows you access to ski lifts in both resorts, the lifts to the Glacier (all year round skiing) and to lifts in the moddle of the two towns. buses run every 15mins to half an hour dependind on the time of day. there is good runs for all levels. the ski schools are very good aswel!!! intersport hav shops up the mountains and everything, so any problems and there a great help!
    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    the trad austrian restaurants but i already knew wher most of them were as i had been to both kaprun and Zell before!
    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    mostly mainland europeans but as Chrystal flies from Dublin, Belfast and the UK there was also a good few Irish and Brits.
    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again. now, i wouldnt go again as i have skiied the whole resort but considering i have been in the area three times oer three years i think its safe to say thy i do like the area, as do my family, some of them have been there four years in a row!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Dubhthamlacht


    1. Where and when you went.
    Went sat 3rd jan to sat 10th jan to Alpe D'Huez in France
    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Skiied
    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Very good on piste. It had a good dump of snow a few days debfore we arrived and also it snowed for a day midweek so that kept the slopes nicely topped top. All through this they were being well groomed. Some of the more challenging black runs were closed for a few days due to high winds/poor visiblity at the very top of the mountain. But by the end of the week they were nearly all open. So i took the chance to do the 16km black Sarenne run.
    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    intermediate going on to advanced
    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    around the village the restaurants are generaly very good. The pick of the bunch was Smithy's Tavern, a Tex Mex restautant. We came out of that place well and truly stuffed a couple of times. Next door to it was Lounge 21. Even by resort standards that was pricey but had and excellent feed there.
    There is a couple of irish bars off course. Lily's which claims to be a real irish bar e.g. irish staff etc but take that with a pinch of salt as one part time irish bar man doesn't count. Still it's a alright place. We were also in O'Sharkey's which is central enough and the staff are friendly. It's probably been said before but don't expect cheap booze or food in France. Alpe D'huez is not an exception. What you do get is generally good quality so i didn't mind paying that wee bit extra. Food on the mountain restaurants is so so and very pricey.
    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    the sheer huge amount of pistes to ski on was fantatsic. Alpe D'huez is the 3rd largest ski area in france. Getting from one end of the resort to the other was easy as everything is linked by lifts and generally no queues are very small queues. The quality of the pistes was superb and the group of us all agreed it was best ski holiday yet for us. The learners in the group all thought the ski school was brilliant and by the end they were all quite competent. Unlike some resorts the pistes are all layed out so that a beginner isn't going to find themselves on a black slope by accident. To get to the black you'd need to go to the very peek and that's by 3 capable cars/lifts. So it's all layed out very well. Getting from your hotel to the nearest lift if also a very short distance. Hotels provide lockers in their premisice and that means having to lug your gear to and fro from the lifts. But that is about 150m walk so really it's not much at all and the lockers don't cost anything extra which so of evens it out.
    Bus transfer is 1hr 30 mins from grenoble and a short transfer is always good in my book.
    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    not really
    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    mostly brits and locals. small irish contingent. small smatering of russian/dutch/german
    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again. A fantatsic resort with a tremendous choice of runs. The group i usually go with always like to go somewhere different each year so may not be back next year but i would have no complaints about going back to Alpe D'huez again at some point as it's a top quality ski resort and i certainly recommend it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    1. Where and when you went.
    Val Cenis from December 28 to January 3. Now linked with Termignon so much bigger ski area.

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Skied, but a couple of children in our group boarded.


    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Amazing. Great snow on piste, lots of fresh snow off piste. One day, we were skiing powder on piste on all the red runs in Termignon.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Good intermediate/advanced. Able to ski any piste, not so hot off piste.

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    Fine for snacks and drinks. Not a huge choice on the mountain.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    Excellent resort for families or mixed groups.

    Ski school takes children from 3 years, creches takes babies from three months. There is also the longest green run in Europe, L'escargot, which zigzags across the mountain and allows even the most timid or tired skier to get down safely.

    There is quite a bit to do as well as skiing. Good pool, ice rink, decent shops etc, historic churches and a husky village, as well as a lot of organised free stuff like welcome drinks and snow shows etc.

    Also, it's cheap!!!! Half the price of some of the resorts a valley over, and much more friendly.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Termignon which is now linked has some very nice skiing. I keep promising to go to ski in Bonneval but never get there.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Apart from my group, very few Brits or Irish.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    We stayed in the CIS there and would recommend it for anyone who wants to be stuffed with lots of food and wine and not pay a fortune. The best bit is that they organise a little bus to take your children to ski school and back again, so you don't have to slog up and down. If you are not a complete beginner, you can ski to the door.

    Ski school was a bit chaotic, they could do with a bit of competition.

    Piste bashing was sometimes a bit hit and miss. All the busy runs got well pisted, but some of the link runs could have benefited from more.

    Definitely would go again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭swiss


    1. Where and when you went.
    Obertauern in Austria between the 6th and 13th of January (just back :( ),

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Ski

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Conditions on piste were very good, most of the slopes were quite powdery with the occasional icy parts, mostly on sections most exposed to the sun during the day. I also liked the range of slopes, most of the longer runs had several different paths you could try if you felt like taking the gentle sloping blue or the steeper more narrow red. There were a few areas with moguls outside the main slopes but still on-piste, and some slalom and speed runs.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Intermediate.

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    In general they were very good, I can't say I was bowled over by the quality of the food but it certainly wasn't bad and the bars on the slopes at least managed to maintain the aprés ski atmosphere. In Irish terms the prices were reasonable but I'm sure they were inflated about 20-30% at least above the norm for the country as a whole.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    People there were very friendly, I noticed not one anti-social element about the place.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Not really, though the group did like the town pub 'Nanu' which did have an Irish pub feel to it (a little taste of home). Except for the local brews, naturally.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Mostly German and Austrian. A few English and other European nationalities. No Americans/Chinese/Africans that I saw.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    I haven't had a lot of experience with other resorts, but this one seemed quite expensive. Accomodation in particular was quite ouch, and a 6 day ski lift pass cost nearly 200 euro. Of course it is peak season but I still found it expensive. Nothing was cheap, of course it is a tourist resort but I would still prefer to keep the expense down.

    I would go again, but maybe try to bargain hunt a bit better for accomodation and gear rental.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭sineadgalway


    1. Where and when you went.
    St Johann in Tirol, Austrian. January 24th to 31st

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Ski

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Lots of fresh snow, c90cm on top, lots of powder off piste (but off piste limited)

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Intermediate

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    We were half board at Goldener Lowe, rooms were only ok and food was ok except for Knoodlefest, local dumpling festival. Lets just say there is no need for liver dumplings....Most of apres ski was in Max's bar at bottom of slope. Hopping from 5-8 then everyone leaves. Quiet around town after that. Sports bar on square and bar on the balcony pretty good. It was still off season so slopes were empty which was good but it meant that apres ski wasn't as lively as usual....

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    Freindly and small. Easy access to Kitzbuhel by train for €5 return so you can ski there without expense of staying there (but not included on local lift pass, its €36 for day)

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Stienplatte worth a day trip for the views alone and you can ski into germany

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Mostly Irish, Dutch and Germans

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    Ski school Wilder Kaiser was really good...


  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭Real FM


    1. Where and when you went.
    Kirchberg, Tirol - January 24th -31st 2009

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Ski

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste
    Perfect - have been skiing for years now and have never seen slopes like it. About 1 foot of snow of piste constantly and empty slopes due to recession! One day the slopes weren't groomed but the rest was all good.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Intermediate to advanced

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    Brilliant - Tiroler and Londoner are great, Boomerangs just up the hill is a great bar. Check out the VIP table dancing bar if you need a groin massage after a tough day on the slopes!

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    The main run at Penglestein.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Just venture of Piste on the Penglestein and your sorted for great little runs and jumps.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Mostly Dutch and Ozzies

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    Will be going back there for years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 kelznz


    1. Where and when you went.

    Jan 24th-31st, Mayrhofen, Austria

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.

    Board

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.

    Conditions where excellent. It snowed every day of our week long stay. Sun was out for most of it, one or 2 morns poor visibility. Good powder off piste.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.

    Intermediate

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.

    Great! Cheap,filling food, great cheap beer. Must do ICE bar apres ski, all the apres ski rocks. Big village, plenty of variety.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.

    Igloo Bar on the Ahorn, Ice bar.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.

    Head throughout valley, over otherside don't just stick to Penken!

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.

    A lot more Irish this year, mostly Dutch, Germans, Austrians and (working) a few kiwis and Aussies. Good mix!

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.


    This was our 2nd time, love the place. Won't go back only coz so many other places 2 try! Great for all levels of ability.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    1. Where and when you went.

    Jan 31 - Feb 7

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.

    Board

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.

    Conditions were perfect. It snowed just before we got there. By the end of the week it had started to melt a bit and the grass was showing off piste a bit

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.

    Intermediate

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.

    IMO they are fantastic. Only bar I didnt like was Cuba cos it was a sweat box. All the food is top notch. Roasti-toasti & tiroler grosten all the way :)

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.

    See above for food. Scottys, Kandahar, Piccadilly for in town. And of course the Krazy Kangaruh & Mooserwirt for immediate aprés ski up the slopes. Nothing beats the moose!!!

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.

    The day long ride from Stueben back into St Anton. Very quiet run

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.

    33/33/33 is how i would split it. too many fellas though. missed out on all the ladies by a week

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.

    I couldnt recommend this resort enough


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    1. Where and when you went.

    Arisnal in Andorra. 7th - 11th Feb

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.

    Boarded

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.

    As we arrived it was snowing and there were a couple more hours of snow interspersed with grand sunshine.

    We only tried the one green and blue slope over and over again as we were all beginners and only felt comfortable on these slopes. There were however loads of ski runs available and I was told that the one ski pass would cover 2-3 slopes (again, can't verify as we stuck to what we knew.)

    Didn't venture off piste due to fear of death, but was reliably told it was good.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.

    Beginner.

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.

    A few good spots although we only stayed a few nights so got to see relatively little of the town.

    Restaurant 360 - Savage food, we had dinner here all three nights. Get the steak, seriously.

    The Derby Irish Bar - spent a few nights in there. The two South African guys who run the place are dead sound - hooking us up with free pints, toasties, games of pool, tshirts etc. They also helped when our car got towed, and came out to help when the car got snowed in. Cool guys, can't recommend this place enough (although the beer is quite a bit more expensive than other places i.e. €3.50 for 500ml San Miguel)

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.

    The friendliness of nearly eveyone in this place, the good food (from a small pool of restaurants), the good craic to be had. I thought the slopes were really good, but again this is coming from a beginner.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.

    Can't think of anything tbh

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.

    Good mixture of UK, Irish, Norn Irish and a load of Spanish.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.

    Bring ear plugs. If you want to sleep bring ear plugs. Every night it sounded like there was a party going on outside the room window (and we weren't even near a pub), and the noise from guys racing quad bikes and cars up the hill can be quite annoying.

    If you're renting a car like we did - be sure not to park on the street as your car will either get towed (€120) or you'll get €30 fines.

    I don't really know if I'd go again tbh. I'll reflect again in a few months.

    Dave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭NervousNude


    1. Where and when you went.

    Pas de la Casa, Andorra. March 1st - 8th 2009.

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.

    I boarded but was with 3 skiers.

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.

    It hadn't snowed in a while before we arrived but we had light dustings on the first evening. This continued for most of the week which meant visibility wasn't great but slopes stayed in good conditions. A 30cm dump mid week boosted the off piste significantly. There were some great bowls with natural half pipes for powder boarding and loads of easy off piste right near the groomed runs, perfect for beginner off pisters.

    The last day was glorious sunshine and great visibilty which we could have done with a bit more of throughout the week.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.

    Intermediate (carve reds, little jumps and tree speckled off piste).

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.

    Classy they weren't but definitely cheap and cheerful. Great atmosphere about the place, I think mostly due to the healthy dose of Spaniards. Really good value as well, Happy hour starts at about 5 which means 2 glasses of beer for €2. Free shots in most bars.

    It's a bit tacky, but somehow it doesn't matter (possibly due to the free shots!).

    Restaurants were significantly more pricey although there are 'offers' galore which can get you a bit of a discount or a few free drinks. Looking at about €15 for a main course, no culinary wizadry included.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.

    The friendly vibe, really well run ski school and cheap drinks. Skiing is surprisingly good too.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.

    From the Grau Roig base, take the long drag lift (it's worth it - even for boarders!) up to Pessons. A short hike up the small hill directly on your right from the top of this lift brings you to the top of a little forest with some great (and fairly easy) off piste. This is the best option if visibility is bad. Beware the small river at the end though!!!

    Pas 83 (by no means a hidden gem!) is the best place for apres ski straight from the slopes.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.

    Mostly Spanish, followed closely by Brits, Portuguese and a dwindling amount of Irish.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.

    The accommodation in Pas is all within a 5 minute walk of the main ski centre which means no faffing about with ski buses etc. Plenty of bars right at the bottom of the slopes with lots of activity come 4 o'clock.

    Ski school is really well organised and everyone I met was really happy with their instructor. There is only one school and I think that because of this they manage to group people of the same ability really well. I've never been to a resort where they had 6 groups of intermediate snowboarders.

    One thing to note is that generally speaking beginners ski/snowboard school is in the morning and intermediates in the afternoon. This seems to be slightly flexible for skiers but not at all for snowboarders, so as it turned out my 3 (skiing) friends had school in the morning whilst I had it in the afternoon, meeting only for lunch.

    I'd go back in a flash, mostly due to the friendly people, cheap apres-ski and general good feeling of the place. There's no pretending that Pas is any sort of alpine wonderland but it doesn't try to be and I think that's part of it's charm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    1. Where and when you went.

    Luchon-Superbagneres, French Pyrennes, 2nd-9th March

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.

    Boarding

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.

    Super, dumps of snow all over the place. On piste was good but one main red run is full of moguls ( dam you skiers ! ). Off piste also had some excellent powder- about 1ft deep, just the way I like it=) Had a few blue sky days too, even got sunburnt !

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.

    Intermediate

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.

    Stayed in a mates holiday home about an hours drive away so didnt really experience any apres-ski apart from a couple of beers in the town of Luchon on the last day. Wouldnt say it is raging for apres ski in any event. Mountain restaurants were reasonable compared to the Alps- crepes €2.50, full meals €8-10, burger and chips €5, tea/coffee/250ml beer €2.50-3.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.

    Good variety of runs from beginner to intermediate. Not really for advanced, black runs ( except for one ) aren't that long and are limited. Slopes are very empty given the size, especially Mon-Fri. Bit more busy at weekends but still bearable. Never queued for a lift for more than 3 minutes at the weekend and during the week no queues at all.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.

    Powder stashes are around for those willing to head off piste. We were lucky and had one to ourselves off a beginners green slope. All the off pisters were over the other side of the mountain so we just shreded it up ourselves before anyone really knew about it:pac:

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.

    Didnt hear any Irish accents there. A few Brits though. Mainly French- this is not a resort that package operators go to so its mainly locals. Most Brits we spoke to had holiday homes in the Pyrennes and use them for summer time and winter skiing.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.

    Good resort, possibly too small for a full week if you are intermediate. Wouldn't go again as I like to hop around different places. However I would recommend it. Lift pass was €26 per day, €23 with a student card, cheaper again if you bought a 6 days pass ( photo needed ).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭mcgratheoin


    1. Where and when you went.
    Morzine, 4th to 12th of March

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Ski

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Awesome - 20cm snow on the 5th & 6th and glorious sunshine the 7th and 8th - then some more snow. Off-piste was incredible - huge areas of untracked powder and great tree-skiing

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Advanced

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    Typical French food and expensive bars. If in Morzine, then try to find a little bar called Cafe Chaud - it's the seasonaire's pub and is a great spot - particularly during the 4 to 7 happy hour. Not a bad restaurant either. In Avoriaz, there's a diner and hire shop called Changabang that is probably the best value in the Portes du Soleil - great burgers and curly fries, and if you want to rent high end equipment it's a good place to go.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    Large area of the Portes du Soleil - plenty of terrain to keep you interested.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    The far side of Les Gets (Mont Chéry) has some nice powder after a fresh dump - some great little off-piste runs through a forest that all end at an access road. this means it doesn't matter where you come out, you can still follow the road back to the base of the lift - did about 6 runs one after the other there one day and got untracked powder on all of them!
    Also hit "The Stash" near Avoriaz - great natural park - lots of wooden boxes and rails and a picnic table drop-off that is some of the most fun I've ever had in a park. (www.thestash.com)
    For food/drink, it has to be Changabang in Avoriaz and Cafe Chaud in Morzine.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Lots of Brits - was mostly hanging out with seasonaires, so I'm not sure what the more touristy places are like. Mostly locals on Saturdays (transfer day) so nice and quiet.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    Good resort, huge area - if the snow isn't that good then Avoriaz is probably a better place to stay as it's higher up. Morzine can feel a little disconnected, but if you were in Avoriaz, then you may not feel like heading down to Morzine or Les Gets and they're definitely worth skiing in good conditions. Also keep an eye out for the pig in Morzine around the Nyon area - I'm not joking, there's a pig that someone owns up there and it wanders around the pistes - quite surreal when you ski around a corner and see it standing there on the side of the slope!


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭bobtjustice


    1. Where and when you went.
    St Johann in Tirol, Austrian. January 24th to 31st

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Ski

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Lots of fresh snow, c90cm on top, lots of powder off piste (but off piste limited)

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Intermediate

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    We were half board at Goldener Lowe, rooms were only ok and food was ok except for Knoodlefest, local dumpling festival. Lets just say there is no need for liver dumplings....Most of apres ski was in Max's bar at bottom of slope. Hopping from 5-8 then everyone leaves. Quiet around town after that. Sports bar on square and bar on the balcony pretty good. It was still off season so slopes were empty which was good but it meant that apres ski wasn't as lively as usual....

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    Freindly and small. Easy access to Kitzbuhel by train for €5 return so you can ski there without expense of staying there (but not included on local lift pass, its €36 for day)

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Stienplatte worth a day trip for the views alone and you can ski into germany

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Mostly Irish, Dutch and Germans

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    Ski school Wilder Kaiser was really good...

    My first trip snowboarding was here. 7th-14th of March. Great place. Except for the hotel ... Goldener Lowe.. Don't stay there.!

    Steak and Wein across the road from the hotel, has some of the best eating ever.!


  • Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭Mountain_Surfer


    1. Where and when you went.
    Val Thorens, 21st - 28th March

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Ski

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    The first 2 days were absolute blue-bird days and there had not been an awful lot of snow in the week before we went. Those afternoons the lower runs especially were quite slushy but the higher runs were fine. It then snowed non stop for 2 and a half days. Thankfully the vis was ok too so it meant despite the new snow you could still ski. Then the last day and a half were some of the best days skiing that I've ever had. Blue skies and maybe 2 feet of fresh powder off piste and perfectly groomed pistes

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Advanced, but the group was a total mix of everything

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    We organized our trip (16 of us) to be there at the same time as the Snowsports crowd from our University so as students we didn't eat out all that much! When we did though we kept it simple with nice pizzas in a few different places that were not too expensive and huge so ok value for money! We all drank in our apartments before going out as most people were doing the holiday on a budget but the drink was not too expensive out anyway.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    We went to a bar called Viking on the Sunday night where they had this game all night that you order a round and then roll a dice against the bar person, you get higher than them and you get the round for free, you get the same or less and you pay for whatever you have ordered. A lot of the group didn't spend a cent and were drinking all night! Another great place to go is Dick's Tea Bar where we we ended up most nights. Nice staff, good music & relatively inexpensive drink.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    I got the cable car up to 3200m with another one of the group and we decided to take the black down from there to Orelle. The first 1km was flat and sheet ice and we were wondering what we had let ourselves into but then you turn a corner, the wind drops and we had more powder than you could shake a stick at. We were one of the only people on it all day so it was so fresh and my favorite run of the trip hands down. Unbelievable! The snow park and bordercross were also brilliant and well worth a look. While we were there they had a Snowboard festival with live music all day on the mountain and competitions in the park etc etc but one of the cool things was a big jump that they had built by the main mountain restaurant which had a massive inflatable landing mat over the landing area so you could pull whatever tricks you wanted in the knowledge you would be safe regardless of how the jump went. Even people who started skiing that week did it and loved it!

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    A lot of Dutch and loads of English students. It was obviously mid-term so there were 3 groups of hundreds and then a few more smaller groups also. Not many Irish at all

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    Great resort, we got a brilliant deal from www.valthorens.com of liftpass and accommodation for the week for 215e. The accommodation was basic but we were only there to sleep really so didn't mind. It was very central so no complaints. Half the group hired cars at the airport in Grenoble, the other half bussed and trained their way to the resort and they worked out almost the same price but the car was much less stressful and I would recommend it. One of the nights we were in one of the resort's clubs Malaysia, and a few of the group were throwing snowballs around outside (as you do) and the bouncers went mental and pepper sprayed 5 of us badly. Really put a huge downer on the night so if you are headed there watch the messing!
    Finally, yes I would definitely go to Val Thorens again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭LeoD


    1. Where and when you went.
    Sauze d-Oulx, Dec 27 - Jan 3

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Ski

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    As with every other resort in Europe this year, snow conditions were perfect although I think this may have given those in charge of the pistes to sit back and take it easy. It looked like only some of the pistes were groomed at night so pistes, while in pretty good shape, could have been better.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Intermediate

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    When one of the main bars in the town is called Paddy McGinty's you would be worried but there were a few other decent spots. Plenty of nice mountain top restaurants for lunch breaks but the queues were frustrating - we were there at probably the busiest time of year so possibly a similar scenario in all resorts.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    It's proximity to Turin airport. You can be on the slopes nearly an hour after landing so suitable for short breaks.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Not really but we didn't go looking for any either. Plenty to keep us occupied where we were.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Mainly Italians I would say. Not too many Irish or Brits and no Dutch which probably wasn't so good as it made for a relatively quite aprés ski scene.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    Not sure if I'd go back. The lift system is a bit antiquated which resulted in long queues at all the key lifts. The lift operators could do with a bit of a kick up the backside as they made no effort of making sure all lifts were full despite the massive queues :mad:. They only clean the snow off the returning chairs also if there happens to be a girl waiting to get on :(. The town itself is picturesque and has some nice places to eat but the lack of aprés ski options was a bit dissappointing. The ski hire service was a bit like the ski lift operators - half arsed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭rn


    1. Where and when you went.

    Meribel, 3 Valleys. Sat 4th April - Sat 11th

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.

    Ski.

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.

    On piste only. Plenty of snow at the start of the week, but very very icy in the morning. Towards the end of the week most of lower slops were getting bare and the snow was melting fast.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.

    Beginner

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.

    Very quiet it seamed to us. It seamed to be all families and school kids when we were there. Restaruants were expensive, but we had our own self catering and there was a few good little food shops.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.

    Meribel or Moterat are very well located re the slopes. No transit time. Don't stay in Les Allures or Brides de Bains - its a false economy saving €200 on accomodation over the course of the week for and hour in a Gondola. There are plenty of pistes for all levels.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.

    Well not hidden, but courceheval is very accessible and its got great long, wide runs for beginners. So is Val thoren, but we never made it up there.

    If you are staying in central meribel you can ski down to ski school every morning and get the bus back up.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.

    Mainly Brits. Rich kids from boarding school! Very, very few Irish.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.

    Definitely we arrived for the last decent skiing for beginners. The lower slopes were grand for the first 3 days, but it got very hot then and the last 2 days were very poor. However the higher up slopes which were more suited to intermediates seamed grand. It was interesting skiing in a t-shirt through! Will definitely go earlier next year.

    I would also recommend getting private lessons instead of skischool. Ski school can be hit and miss on whether you get a good instructor or not.

    I would definitely go again to these resorts. The lifts and pistes were very very well maintained.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 readthecontract


    Went to Font Romue in Pyrenees last year:

    FLy to Gerona with Ryanair
    Hired a car
    Booked apartment over the net, owner kindly arranged lift passes, ski hire, lessons

    5 people for 1 week, €2,000.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭jm99


    1. Where and when you went.
    Bansko last feb
    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    skied
    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Fantastic on and off, there was a big dump the day we landed and a few more during the week(lucky lucky lucky). a friend was there the week before and it wasn't great. alot of ice
    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    intermediate i reckon but i havent peaked yet
    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    very quiet but there was 12 of us so we had plenty of craic. food was grand. noting to fancy but tasty
    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    cheap, excellant resort for beginners

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or
    mainland Europeans.
    mainly europeans but a few brits n irish
    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    i thought it was excellant but i wouldn't go back, got kinda bored of the same slopes by thursday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭erinn


    I've just booked my ski hol to Mayrhofen in Austria for the 19th to 26th Dec!!! cant wait to go now!!! got a good deal on crystals website!!! and looked up the Harakiri slope....78degrees and in english means "ritual suicide" i'm so looking forward to doing that!!! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭am i bovvered


    erinn wrote: »
    looked up the Harakiri slope....78degrees and in english means "ritual suicide" i'm so looking forward to doing that!!! :D

    :eek: some great youtube clips of that run


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 585 ✭✭✭a147pro


    not likely to be anywhere near 78 degrees lads, very few slopes are steeper than 40 degrees, even though they may feel 80 at times


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭I_luv_2_ski!


    a147pro wrote: »
    not likely to be anywhere near 78 degrees lads, very few slopes are steeper than 40 degrees, even though they may feel 80 at times

    the following is a quote from the website:

    http://winter.mayrhofner-bergbahnen.com/en/100304/100252/harakiri-piste.html

    "Sportive skiers and snowboarders can prove their skills on Austria's steepest ski slope here in Mayrhofen. This steep slope has an average incline of unbelievable 78 per cent(!) making a jack and special groomers indispensable for grooming. There are also special Harakiri souvenirs for "Harakiri survivors" - available at the merchandising shop at the Ahornbahn and at all ticket counters. "

    And the fact that it is AVERAGE incline is 78 degrees means that even if there is less steep parts then 78 degrees there is also steeper parts!!!

    in this video the 1st person is me and the second is my boyfriend

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4_6vhxRSe0&feature=related

    haha fingers crossed anyway!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    1. Where and when you went.
    Verbier switzerland / chamonix (grand mountain) France (sat 19th/sun 20th)

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Snowboard

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Very good conditions (snow just arrived in time) but very cold -18 in Verbier,-23 in chamonix. Steeper slopes where quite icy. But for the most part it was just right.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    beginner/ intermediate.

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    Didnt stay at the resorts i was based in Gland near geneva

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    Both slopes with 1 1/2 to 2 hours of geneva airport along with a host of other resorts nearby. geneva is quite cheap to fly to from cork.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Not really

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Mainly french with the odd english person.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    verbier : Very impressive resort good lift systems ( chair lifts with a pull down screen to shield you from the snow and wind on the way up.) But slopes are not great for snowboarders. Slopes went from very steep to uphill quite often. Ok on skis but if you dont have the speed on a snow board it involves a lot of clipping in and out of the board.

    For me it was just too steep for my skill level, ended up doing falling leaf in way too many locations that where too steep/icy for me. 1 Blue was too narrow and flat for snow boards. Ended up taking a few really bad falls and by the end of the day i was in bits.

    Chamonix : the next day was much better. Reds where much better but i stuck to the blues for most of the day. Good lift system and plenty of choice. I wouldnt go again as the slopes had a cross fall rather than a straight down slope so it made it difficult to get from the left side back across to the right. Again some of the "Blues" where way too steep. I had a friend with me who has 20 years experience and regulary uses black slopes as well as off piste and he could nt beleave one of the blues wasnt a black it was so dangerous.


    It was good to get back on the slopes but i would only recomend to intermediates to advanced skiers.

    Ill be heading back to Andorra in feb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    erinn wrote: »
    I've just booked my ski hol to Mayrhofen in Austria for the 19th to 26th Dec!!! cant wait to go now!!! got a good deal on crystals website!!! and looked up the Harakiri slope....78degrees and in english means "ritual suicide" i'm so looking forward to doing that!!! :D

    that slope looks amazing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Mmmm_Lemony


    2009 Holiday report: Oberstdorf

    1. Where and when you went.

    26-29 Dec, Oberstdorf, German Algau Fellhorn and Sollereck
    Only got in 2 days skiing though

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.

    Ski

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.

    On - Not great, very icy, both resorts had alot of snow machines in action though.

    Off - Not bad from what I tried but not alot of info available in resort.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.

    Intermediate. Went with 2 beginners, looking to improve parallel skiing technique. I wouldn't recommend either resort for this.

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.

    German beer is the bogs dollix! But found it a little dead at night. Restaurants had really good food and some great prices.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.

    Views are stunning, German beer is great. Not a bad spot for a few intermediate skiers to go for a few cheap days skiing, but not around this time of year, later in the season would be better. Definitely not for beginners!

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.

    The greatest Beer hall in the world is in Munich, and if your flying in to MUC its a must on the tour.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.

    Germans. It helps to know a few words too.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.

    Germans can be a little sharp in general but some really nice friendly people amongst them. The german transport system is the best I've ever seen in all my travels, so moving around its never an issue. The beer is great and the food is too. For this reason I probably would go again, as I want to check out Nebelhorn, but I won't be taking any beginners with me.

    Not for beginners, very narrow for snowboarders. There is a blue run on Felhorn, number 10, and it aint blue! Brought 2 inexperienced girls up there and it was about as wide as a country road at the start, and had a practically vertical drop each side. Wayyyyy too steep for a pizza fries approach. Also, both resort were poorly sign posted. Went for a spin down number 5 on sollereck which is to the right of the main run and ended up on some off-piste forest runs. Nice with a bunch of mates who know what they are doing, not so nice when you are on your own, and its getting dark...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Imposter


    2009 Holiday report: Oberstdorf
    On - Not great, very icy, both resorts had alot of snow machines in action though.
    Snow machines are used as early in the season as possible to ensure that a resort has as much 'snow' as possible. Almost every resort will have the snow machines in more or less full use for the first few weeks of the season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭irishdub14


    Has anyone been to Bregendzerwald, Austria?? Whats it like??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 585 ✭✭✭a147pro


    the following is a quote from the website:

    http://winter.mayrhofner-bergbahnen.com/en/100304/100252/harakiri-piste.html

    "Sportive skiers and snowboarders can prove their skills on Austria's steepest ski slope here in Mayrhofen. This steep slope has an average incline of unbelievable 78 per cent(!) making a jack and special groomers indispensable for grooming. There are also special Harakiri souvenirs for "Harakiri survivors" - available at the merchandising shop at the Ahornbahn and at all ticket counters. "

    And the fact that it is AVERAGE incline is 78 degrees means that even if there is less steep parts then 78 degrees there is also steeper parts!!!

    in this video the 1st person is me and the second is my boyfriend

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4_6vhxRSe0&feature=related

    haha fingers crossed anyway!!!

    undoubtedly very steep, as apparent from how far and quickly your boyfriend fell, but the description is of an average incline of 78 per cent. what ever a per cent incline is (?), trust me its not 78 degrees, if it was your boyfriend would be dead and you'd have a sponsorship deal!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭Shane_O


    2009 Holiday report: Söll,Austria

    1. Where and when you went.

    Söll,Austria,30th Dec'09-6th Jan'10

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.

    Board

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.

    On-Good,lot of snow machines which provided good snow,some days lots of ice on some runs.Very good snow making facilities as there was no snowfall for a few days.Conditions very good after 1 nights snowfall.
    Off-Nice powder after snowfall but due to lack of snowfall some not great.



    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.

    Beginner/Intermediate-Got lessons which were very helpful,would recommend this resort for beginners as the facilities were very good and also lots of learning/lesson facilities and good instructors.

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.

    Restaurants are very nice,found to spend €25 for 3 courses with drinks for dinner.Food was very good in all the restaurants.
    Bars were very god both on the mountian and in the town.Best bars were definitely the Salven Stadt and Whisky Muhle Sportsbar/Club,drinks were cheap and there was always a good crowd in them.Salven Stadt for Apres Ski and Whisky Muhle for late night.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.

    Views are stunning, German beer is great. Good Food/Bars .Good Ski/Boarding, Town is small but has all thats needed and is very close to slopes with ski bus allowing easy access to the slopes and gondolas.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.

    The greatest Beer hall in the world is in Munich, and if your flying in to MUC its a must on the tour.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.

    Lots of Austrians,Irish and English/Scottish

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.

    Slopes are well documented and signed all over, town is pleasant and close. Flew to Munich and got train to Kufstein then bus to Soll,very easy.
    Soll also has a Night Ski facility from Wednesday to Saturday incl. which i found very good, nice atmosphere.
    The Austrians were on holidays until the 6th of January. Which is probably the reason that the place was quite busy but it was not packed by any measn.I was told later in January after this date was a better time to come.
    I will definitely go again as soon as possible and recommend it to anybody i see.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    1. Where and when you went.
    Just back from Valfrejus, skied there from January 2 to January 5.

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Skied there, along with whole family.

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Weird! It snowed while we were there, and they didn't piste for the first day, so we skied fresh snow on piste. Off piste was great.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    I thought I was advanced until I was totally out-skied by my nine year old daughter.

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    Nice Italian restaurant in village, the French restaurant there wasn't much to write home about. Mountain restaurant was self service, but food was good (huge spag bol for €7, and wine for two for €2.50) and the hot chocolate was a meal in itself.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    Steep and deep. Most resorts try to make out they have more blacks then they really do. This one was trying to pretend that blacks were really reds or blues. Even some of the greens were challenging. Very handy for Modane so good for weekend skiers.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Mixed, mostly French.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.

    This resort is not for beginners.

    It's small (65km) and great for a good intermediate or advanced skier who wants to get at accessible off-piste or mega-steep on-piste but it would terrify a beginner. The blue run back to the resort has a big sign saying "Very difficult, beginners should take the telecabine down". They are not joking. It involves a sharp turn right over a cliff, then an icy gunbarrell. The alternative is a 10km blue out into the back of beyound where you often have to ski over avalanche rubble.

    We stayed in Chalet Thabor, basic and cheap, but they tried to load up the extras. They expected me to pay rental for sheets! But as long as you are not a beginner who has to take the telecabine down, it really is ski-in, ski-out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 585 ✭✭✭a147pro


    EileenG wrote: »

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    I thought I was advanced until I was totally out-skied by my nine year old daughter.

    brilliant!

    where is this place Eileen and how far from what airport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    It's Valfrujus, which is about 20 minutes straight up from Modane train station. It's accessible by trains from Paris (TGV or night train) or Turin. You can also fly to Grenoble or Lyon, but Paris and Turin have the most seamless connections.

    It's in France, but it's close enough to Italy that you occasionally get texts saying "Welcome to Italy" as you ski.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭I_luv_2_ski!


    1. Where and when you went.
    Went to Mayrhofen for Christmas so the 19th to 26th Dec

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Skiied

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    On piste snow was OK but not great...it hadnt snowed and because it was -15 on the sunday it was icy but it was good enough to ski on happily!!! Off piste the snow was mainly very soft (believe me I know all too well!!! fell in to it twice!!!)

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Intermediate to advanced

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    most places were really good but one place we went at the top of the penken at blue 2 and blue 12 wast great!!! and was really squashed!!!

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    when we went the slopes were really empty which was great, the town is fairly compact...apres ski was good as were the restaurants in the town for dinner!!! other then that it wasnt great!!!

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    La Coup *and more* to the left as your coming off the Penken did great food!!! Service Centre Hurbet Krole at the top of the Penken was a great place to get skies and storage for skies and boots on heated racks for the night!!! it costs €20 for skies and boots if you dont rent from there but its free if you rent either boots or skies!!! it was lovely to get out of the ski boots into snow boots before the walk back to the hotel!!! and hot ski boots every morning!!! also we swapped for twin tips on our 3rd day and there was no problem to keep them for the rest of the week!!! i would really recommend these guys!!!

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Mainland europeans...there was a few Irish and English but not a huge amount!!!

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    No I wouldnt go there again....only one run got you back down into the town and it was from the Ahorn not the Penken which was the main ski lift!!! Ski bus only ran every half an hour and seen as most streets were one way it took ages 2get away!!! To get to the glacier you had to get a bus from the train station which we never found!!! I wasnt overly happy with the Resort it was my 4th time skiing and its the one place I would never go again!!! Having to get a lift to the bottom of the slopes was a bit of a pain and queues for the Penkenbahn were always big!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Cake Fiend


    1. Where and when you went.
    Currently living in Niseko, northern Japan

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    I'm a boarder.

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    The snow here is unbelievable, I've never seen anything like it. As it snows almost every day, early risers will get fresh powder tracks even on-piste. There are also plenty of great backcountry runs here for the more adventurous.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Intermediate

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    A very wide selection, ranging from quiet izakayas to busy bars with DJs. I tend to stick to the more Japanese-style places (izakayas etc), but as the area gets tons of foreign visitors, there is no shortage of Western-style bars and restaurants.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    If you're a fan of powder, this is your mecca.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    If you speak Japanese, there are some nice little bars and cafés in the neighbouring town, Kutchan (I was living there for a month before I moved the the ski resort proper).

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    There's a huge number of Australians and Hong Kongese. Met a few Brits and Canadians as well (no other Irish so far). There are lots of Japanese skiers and boarders on the mountains during the day, but most of them seem to stay outside of the main Hirafu area at night (probably sick of the noisy Aussies...)


    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.


    I don't think I'll come back to Niseko specifically (at least not for a full season) as I didn't come to Japan to be surrounded by rowdy Australian pissheads. I'll definitely be back to northern Japan though (maybe Rusutsu) for the snow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭nuts86


    Booked mayrhofen today for this saturday... So happy because we originally had it cancelled... the recent snow fall though urged me and the other half to act... got a sweet deal!!!!!

    Cant wait.... Il report back when home.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,810 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Yeah, I think our recent Irish snowfall and some of the vids of the lads up on Luggula have many of us who had no plans to go anywhere this year either trying to get the cash together and organise something or put us in terrible form because we can't! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 302 ✭✭kermitdfrog


    1. Where and when you went.
    Spent a weekend in The Wicklow Mountains, above Firhouse/Woodstown

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Board

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    It was all off piste (the piste groomers must have been on strike). Fresh snow everywhere, very little in the way of crowds so plenty of powder that had yet to be tracked out.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Intermediate

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    Sitting on the doorstep of Dublin city, there is a huge variety of bars to suit every taste, and plenty of alternative options for those who'd prefer something else.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    Close to home

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Someone else had already built a sweet kicker and let us join them - head directly up the hills from the back of Hunter's Wood and Oldcourt

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    All Irish where I was

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    A lack of lifts or drags severly inhibits the potential for this resort. As a result the variety or lack thereof is hard to really judge. Staying in one small field, all day, and walking up and down should be poor, but it's great! And getting home in 20 mins, including the 15 minute walk down the hill, is fantastic. The trek up is tough though, and the view was nice but I couldn't see the other towering peaks. I'd defintely go again though!


    :D:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭Outsidethebox


    Haha. I was wondering when one of these was going to appear! I brought the board up myself Monday in the 4wd. I had no idea where to go though so threw the Sally Gap into the Sat Nav and off I went. While I was climbing in the jeep near the top I met two students from Dublin sliding over and back the road in their Fiat Seicento!! I had to laugh, they were short on equipment but full of enthusiasm. They also knew (roughly!) whereabouts to go so it came in handy, I gave them a lift and we found a nice spot where you could board down to the road and walk back 80% of the way on the road.

    It was near a cottage pretty close to the gap.

    Had a good couple of hours up there. Mighty stuff.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭anymore


    Where & When
    Lanersbach, ( between Mayrhofen and Hintertux) Jan 2, '10 to jan 6, '10
    Hintertux Nov ( 24 to 30 2009 )
    What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Skied
    Type
    Intermediate
    Conditions
    Skied Hintertux for first two days :On top extremely cold with temps -15 to -22 in parts going was sluggish and parts tend to be quite icy. Lower sections were good and crowds small. Ski park was closed for two days - presumably because of conditions.
    In November snow was good, temperatures around -7 to -2 and ski park ws open.
    For rest of christmas holiday, we skied from Lanersbach into Eggalm/ Mayrhofen ski areas. Great runs, mainly good snow and will be going back.
    Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans
    In Hintertux, mainly German, austrian and east europeans - very few Uk or Irish
    In Lanersbach, again mainly continentals and in Mayrhofen mix of Uk, some Irish, Australians russians and easter europeans
    Comments
    I have used Mayrhofen as an accomodation for travelling to Hintertux in Nov and Oct on 3 occassions. Glacier skiing off season is well worth considering: no shortage of accomodation at cheap rates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭Static M.e.


    1. Where and when you went.
    January 2010 in Avoriaz France

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Board

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Did a lot of Off-Piste, conditions were perfect, dumped snow all night, blue Sky's during the day.

    4. Are you beginner/intermediate/advanced.
    Intermediate

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    Bars / Restaurant's were good, expensive through. Pints were €5-6 euro, a bottle of water and a can of fanta was €6.50, some friends payed €11 for two Hot Chocolates..

    Some restaurants (Mains + Wine);
    Les Bistro: Very good food, expensive though, we payed €50 a head
    Les Intrets: Pizza Place, we payed €20 a head
    The Cabin: Food was OK, has two pool tables and a table soccer, turns into a disco bar later on in the night. We payed €40 a head

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    Loads of Snow Parks. They have "The Stash" a park in the middle of a forest with a lot of wooden features to play with, a couple of new ones this year. They just opened another run to the right of the Stash with more Red Park jumps. Once you get to Avoriaz everything is within walking distance, lifts, shops, bars are all very accessible. Have a nice half pipe too.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Lots of Off piste areas but you would need a guide, take a wrong turn and you'll find cliffs very quickly.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Good mix I think.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    Definitely go back, my favorite resort. Other points, if you get the Les Prodans Gondola and don't have a Ski Pass, its €7 each way. You can get a Transport, horse + Sleigh to Taxi you around, costs about €8. During the day we eat in Chanabang a lot, lunch was around €10, very popular and near the Prodans gondola.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,797 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    1. Where and when you went.
    Männlichen, Switzerland - Jan 2010
    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Sledge
    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Snow not particularly deep, but powdery.
    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Absolute beginner.
    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    Fairly decent in both Männlichen & Wengen.
    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    Easy to get to. Not crowded (granted it was a Wednesday afternoon), very friendly medical staff - one of my mates badly fractured his foot 200m into a 6k sledge run.
    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Not really.
    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Mostly Swiss.
    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    Would definitely go again (only just down the road from where I am working).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    1. Where and when you went.
    mayrhofen 30 jan - 6 feb 2010

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    ski

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    mostly excellent though slightly icy on duller days or when sun moved around behind the mountain. on sunny days the pistes were as good as i've skied before.

    4. Are you beginner/intermediate/advanced.
    intermediate

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    really good. beer was cheap, zillertal (local beer) was under €3 a pint in most bars and restaurants and was very nice. every restaurant we went to in the village served excellent food at very reasonable prices. on average i'd have spent €20 for a starter and mains.
    the mountain restaurants i went to were all good and for example charged roughly €6 for a spag bol / schnitzel so were good value too.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    plenty. combines lively nightlife and excellent skiing, i didn't find it expensive or too crowded. i've previously been to italian resorts which had good skiing but poor nightlife and average restaurants.
    cheap accommodation wasn't easy to find but what i got in the end was good value and very central.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    probably not a hidden gem as such but i went to the hintertux glacier one day on the advice of our ski rental guy. he said to stay away from it if the weather was bad and thankfully it was a perfect day for it. almost certainly the best days skiing i've ever had, pistes were in perfect condition and quiet. bus (about half an hour from mayrhofen) was free and ran every 20 mins or so.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    very few irish, good few brits if you listened out for the accents but mostly continental europeans. good few russians actually, most restaurants had menus in english, german, french and russian!

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    would definitely go again in a few years time but have plenty of other spots to go to first!
    for ski rental luggi was the man. €58 for beginners skis and boots for 6 days and €70 for intermediate. http://www.rentski.info/indexuk.htm
    there are long gondola queues at penken morning and evening (about 45 mins) on weekends and mondays so maybe best to go early or bus to another station by bus. the ahorn gondola seems generally quiet but skiing is quite limited there. midweek and friday queues at the penken were fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭a148pro


    Ok, just back from Tignes. Spent a long time reading about it before going (even though I had been in nearby Val D’Isere before - ?) and a long time thinking about it while there since I mostly skied on my own. As such, may as well pass on the benefit of those thoughts for anyone going / thinking of going.

    WHERE:

    Tignes le lac, France

    WHEN:

    29th Jan – 3rd Feb, 2010

    LEVEL:

    Intermediate skier

    CONDITIONS:

    Very good, mixture between heavyish snowfall, whiteout and blue skies on the various days

    THE SKIING:

    On piste skiing very good. There’s enough in the Espace Kily to occupy an avid skier for a full week if not more, enough in Tignes itself to occupy most skiers for a full week. Combined with off piste, again, Tignes would be enough in itself, more further afield if you want. Some very accessible off piste routes. Provided you’ve got a decent level of competence and cop on, you could follow the more obvious lines leading off from the various lifts. If you got a guide the possibilities would be near endless.

    Favourite runs were the blue and off piste off the Palafour and the black / red which hovers over the face of the town. Do it in the morning before it gets chopped up, or off the last lift once everyone is off it. Ensure you Herminator it straight down from about 2/3 way up the last face or you’ll have a bit of Nordic action to get back up to the lift. Plenty of easily accessible off piste off the Palfour runs and also off the black. You won’t go too far wrong if there’s been fresh snow but there are a few cliff faces and a lot of rocky bits.

    There are a number of 'naturride' pistes in the resort, which are basically patrolled and de-avalanched but are not groomed. My view on these is that they’re a poor substitute for good off piste routes, as they get overskiied and as such, icy and mogully. If you want to brown your trousers try the black one immediately under the Aeroski lift. Very steep with a few small rock faces and chutes and three foot deep snow to ensure you lose your skis like the amateur paddy you know you are. There is a particularly scenic natureride, the Aiguilles Piercie, complete with a natural arch at the top. There is also a very nice off piste along a well worn track to the left of this lift as you come up it. It takes about 10 minutes to ski along to a wide open face where the snow remains fresh and deep. Its then a 30 sec ski down through (hopefully) beautiful powder, with accompanying slog if you fail to keep your speed. Be careful as the track out is icy and its thus not easy to control yourself on it. The route suddenly opens to an exposed face on the right at one point and if you’re bringing an over enthusiastic beginner with you you may be calling out the helicopter. The actual face would be very avalanche prone at times too so better to do it once there’s a good few existing lines down it.

    Above and to the left of this face is an even more impressive off piste run off a very steep shoulder, borderline worthy of a ski video. Not going to post how to get to it lest someone follow my directions and die. The day I saw people climbing up to it they looked like ordinary mortals so it is presumably doable, though I didn’t realise till afterwards where they were going, so didn’t join them. Its on the list for next time...

    Tignes isn’t very good for absolute beginners though. There are two crap greens in the resort but not much to encourage a nervous skier up beyond that. There are blues off the nearby Pallafour lift when they’re ready for them. There is a lovely blue (Creux) off the back of the Aeroski Bubble lift which would be perfect for beginners but again, nervous skiers will not be too enthused by the prospect of gaining that much altitude, particularly with the impressive looking black which hangs over the training slopes awaiting them by way of descent (just put them back into the cable car down then nail the black yourself!). There are plenty of greens in the area between Tignes and Val but they are spectacularly slow and will involve impromptu Nordic skiing. In fact the main criticism I would have of Tignes is that there was a lot of flat areas. I was on semi off piste skis, which run slower on pistes than standard skis, so I felt it a little more. Boarders could encounter real difficulty.

    There is a good summary of the pistes at welove2ski.com. There is also a lengthy guide to some off piste routes available elsewhere on line, but I’m not going to link to it as, imo, you shoudn’t be going anywhere near the routes contained in it without a guide or proper mountain skills.

    NATIONALITIES:

    Mostly French actually. Disconcerting amount of ski lift trips with 40 something Brit males talking complete sh*te to their (usually mute female) companions. Some Scandis and one or two Spanish. Not a Paddy to be seen though my mates did encouter one or two.

    COST:

    I think in the current climate this should feature in all reviews;

    Price breakdown:

    Flights – Aer Lingus – Lyon - €165 including taxes etc and bag

    Transfer – Satobus Alpes - €100 return

    Accommodation - €370 pp per week in 6 person apartment

    Ski pass - €40 odd per day, less in bad weather

    Ski gear - €30 per day for top level skis, boots, poles

    Lesson - €65 for one and a half hour private lunchtime lesson

    Food in town – actually quite cheap, decent food at better prices than at home. Could get a nice hot Panini for a fiver, oversized burger for 7.50 at Tschuss. Having been to Chamonix the last few times I expected to drop almost as much on meals as I did on ski passes and gear, but was pleasantly surprised. You could conceivably survive on 20 – 30 euro per day on decent hot food.

    ACCOMMODATION:

    Stayed the first night in Hotel le Refuge. €94 single room B&B. Bed felt a little cold and I felt a little guilty having to get the staff out of bed after I arrived late at 1.30 in the morning. I suspect the room just hadn’t been occupied all week, hence coldness. The staff were exceptionally friendly and a pleasure to stay with. Good self service continental breakfast set me up for the day. Hotel is bang on the front of the main Tignes le lac pistes.

    Stayed the rest of the time at the Village Montana apartments. Cost me €370 in a 6 person apartment with 4 other adults and one child. Paid for a weeks accommodation and the price I paid was basically the difference between a 4 person and a 6 person apartment after I joined a group of mates who had already booked there. Apartments quite nice and relatively spacious by ski standards. Hotel was also nice, good bar area with comfy seats and fires, pool table, pool, Jacuzzi, steam room and sauna facilities (nominal admission fee of €10 for those staying in apartments, free for those who give a hotel room number instead!). Restaurant looked good but never ate there due to failure to offer veggie options for my mates.

    Apartments were nominally ski in but only directly accessible from one run. Otherwise it was a 150 yard slog up a piste / icy road with your skis. Also, there was only one communal ski room and no direct access to the apartment. This meant you had to walk through the lobby to get to and from the ski room / apartment. This wouldn’t ordinarily present a problem, except that the greatest faux pas in the Hotel Village Montana is to walk through the hotel lobby in ski-boots (I mean wtf, we’re at 2100 meters, we’re in a purpose built ski resort, what do you expect?). Thankfully, they also only give you two keys to the ski locker (for a 6 person group?) which means you will have ample opportunity to piss them off by clanking past the reception desk and feigning non-comprehension en route for the key / another pair of shoes after your mates go home early. The skiroom on a busy weekend morning was also pretty ridiculous as the entire hotel bump into each other in the under 15s footie style changing room, trying to not block somebody’s locker while propping up your skiis / putting on your boots in a frantic rush to get to the powder.

    Apart from the odd stiff the staff were quite nice though. You can also buy your ski pass in the hotel on weekend mornings, which is handy and can pre-order baguettes for the mornings too, which is even handier (didn’t stay around for the bill so not sure how much they were).

    GETTING THERE:

    The transfer took 6 hours on the way in due to ice in the tunnels which ground the motorway to an absolute halt. The transfer on the way out left without me after the driver repeatedly told me he was not the bus I was looking for. In fairness, when the girl in the office realised his cock up the bus was called back for me. Don’t imagine the other passengers were much impressed mind.

    There is the option of getting the train instead. You get it from the airport to Chamberry and then on to Bourg St Maurice and it can be booked online. That much would cost you £29 sterling one way. Then its possible to get an occasional bus up to Tignes le Lac (€10 each way) or a taxi (prob about €40). The train out lines up reasonably well with the current Aer Lingus flight time. However, there is only one train back and it leaves in the evening, thereby missing your flight – you’d have to overnight in Lyon and wait around all day the next day.

    There is also the option of a train direct from England for the ultra green route, I think the train only runs Sat to Sat.

    If you had 3 or 4 people you’d prob be best off renting a car. Bear in mind that you will have to pay motorway charges on top of that as well as parking in Tignes if it isn’t free with you accommodation (€70 per week in the public carpark).

    Chamberry is a closer airport – about 2 hours away – and there is a Saturday flight from some budget airline out of Belfast. Alternatively, Geneva airport may also be closer. Grenoble and Turin other options (my mates drove up from a Ryanair flight into Turin – about 4 hours and €70 in motorway fees).

    TIPS:

    Bear in mind in choosing a place to stay that there are a number of different towns in Tignes. Tignes le Lac and Val Claret are the main ones. There are also Tignes les Boisses (has a youth hostel and is served by the skibus) and Tignes les Brevieres (has a ridiculously cheap budget chalet – Chalet Chardons, which quoted me €45 pp half board on a single basis and has some very cheap off season deals on its website) but is only served by the occasional bus. As such, it would be two lifts up in the morning to get to the bulk of the action, and a long ski baCK in the evenings. When I was there, notwithstanding lots of fresh snow, the red down was an ice scrape fest. Still, the option for a very cheap holiday to a world class resort exists here.

    Beginners might bear in mind that, as far as I’m aware, the greens in the town are free. As such, it may be an idea to not buy your lift pass until you’re going higher.

    Final tip – get a balaclava, it was mighty cold on the higher lifts.

    RESTAURANTS / BARS:

    Ate in the Bogus bar one night – very good food but bad service – some of the food served cold, others the wrong order or without accompanying sides. Your burger cravings will either be satisfied by Tschuss (7.50 for a lovely burger the size of a small pizza – no chips needed!) or Loop. The later serves good, very cheap food (about 8 mains for around a tenner or less) and was the only bar we saw with any après ski to mention, though in fairness we didn’t look.

    WOULD I GO AGAIN:

    Yes, but the transfer relative to places like Chamonix, Avoriez and Verbier is frustrating. Great skiing though. Want to get an off piste guide and knock off that line above, so will return at some point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭am i bovvered


    very well written review, lots of info, thanks !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭rn


    1. Where and when you went.
    Livingno, Italy

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    ski

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Exceptionally cold on the first two days... unusually -24c. But then warmed up big time to a more comfortable -6c to +1c. Fresh snow down on the Thursday (little bit) and lots on Friday leaving the pistes fantastic. Wasn't off piste.

    4. Are you beginner/intermediate/advanced.
    Beginner

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    All in all good to excellent. Had a few things in Bennys which is beside ski school mainly because directski operates out of it. Its only ok and a tad funny with the times they serve food. There was a really nice resturant around ski lift 23-24... there is a large harry potter statue on the street side... can't remember its name. Food lovely, huge portions and very reasonable.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    Its more relaxed than we experienced in France last year. Very scenic at this time of year. If you are not a complete beginner, do the intermediate ski school (4 day one).

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    The skidooing is highly recommended.

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Mainly mainland europeans, all nationalities. Very few british. A few Irish.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    Two minor things to avoid: If you travel with directski, avoid the all you can eat on the transfer to livigno for 10 euro. Its just bread and two types of pasta. Total rip off for whats on offer. Bring your own sandwhichs or hold out till you hit livigno. And the Aquagrande wellness park is very expensive for whats on offer (€20 PP for standard, €39 PP for exclusive i.e. thermal suite plus €5 PP to rent a towel) - so only go if you are sure you want/need it.

    We stayed in the Chalet Moon. Nice little place and very comfortable.

    I would be only 50/50 as to whether I would go again. The long transfer and terrible departure times of flights would be the biggest downside for us. However I wouldn't rule it out if there was a gang going... :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 kelznz


    1. Where and when you went.
    Bardonecchia, Italy - 31st Jan-7th Feb 2010

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Boarded but had one skier in the group

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    Great! The first few days were sunny and decent enough cover on the slopes, the snow makers were going each night. Some patches were icy but in general very nice. The last few days it snowed heavily and both on and off piste were amazing - powder up to waist deep in the off piste runs and beautiful soft snow on piste.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Intermediate but had a beginner skier and beginner boarder with us.

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    Quiet enough in that you wouldn't go for the clubbing but amazing red wine everywhere and delicious pasta and pizza. All the bars serve free snacks with your drinks like mini pizzas, cheeses and meats etc. You can still have a late night out boozing and a great time but it's a bit more civilized than say Austria!

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    The off piste was great on all mountains. Free ski bus between the 3 main: Campo Smith, Melezet and Jafferau. Friendly locals and great food and drink. Melezet has the Olympic half pipe and ski run for those interested.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Was told to head to Jafferau on the Saturday by an Aussie working in a bar at Campo Smith - all the Italians head to Campo Smith on the weekends from Turin and the place is mobbed. Jafferau was quiet, excellent slopes and mint conditions all round with no waiting at all!

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Majority were Italian, few French, a lot of European ski teams training and a few Irish on the package holidays from Dublin :)

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    Would definitely recommend for beginners and intermediates and people that love Italian cuisine and people. Boarders beware the amount of drag/button lifts that are in the area - not a fan myself and was hard to avoid them if you wanted to get to the top! Definitely mix it up at the 3 different resorts as they all offer different terrain and options. Don't like going to the same place 2 years in a row but if I was one of those I would definitely head back here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    1. Where and when you went.
    Ischgl, Austria. 1st week in Feb

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Board.

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    it never stopped snowing. fresh powder on piste all the time. perfect conditions, though visibility was real bad 1 of the days. 1st time off-piste, again it was perfect, but deep as I found out by losing it

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    intermediate

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    the bars were very lively as expected for apres ski. this atmosphere stayed going throughout the night. the drink was a bit more expensive than here. the reteraunts and food was fantastic

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    the toboggan run. 7Km. great craic altogehter

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    i wouldnt say they were hidden gems, but we found the good spots by accident lol

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    swiss, german, dutch, italian & local. only 1 other irish group there, apart from us. no english at all

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    definately go again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    1. Where and when you went.
    Sauze d-Oulx, Feb 6 - Feb 13

    2. What you did there ski/board/blade.
    Skied for 20 years but considering boarding after this visit

    3. How were the conditions on/off piste.
    It snowed just before we arrived, 2 days while we were there and often at night. 5 days of beautiful blue skies and sun. The snow was perfect on the sunny days on piste and I only saw one run on one day ice up, and it was closed immediately. I dont board yet, but I went off piste and it was the business. Deep powder everywhere that was replaced with fresh snow several nights during our visit.

    4. Are you beginner/intermed/advanced.
    Intermediate +

    5. What were the bars/restaurants like.
    This was a family trip so I have a limited perspective on the night life. It was never very rowdy and we stayed in the heart of town. Hotel had wooden shutters we could close, so i braced for the worst - nah - go to Austria for the wild times. Rounds were cheap in the hotel (Holiday Debili) and food was good. I preferred the food here to Austria as they seemed to stick to traditional Italian rather than a buffet style sample of various european food like in Austria. Food was decently priced on the slopes I thought, but the Austrians know how to dot the slopes nicely with little bars/restuarants everywhere. Italy only had a handful closer to the bottom.

    6. Anything in particular to recommend about this resort.
    The weather is its best factor, shortly followed by the stunning views, wide open terrain, and great snow conditions. You have to ski off piste and through trees as its just too easy and fun. The resort is mostly red runs and off piste - nothing else really - book somewhere else with beginners or families.

    7. Any hidden gems you found nearby.
    Not really, the village is pretty small and basic...but you can ski to France!

    8. Was the population when you were there mostly Irish/Brits or mainland Europeans.
    Mainly Italians with some English.

    9. Any other relevant comments, and whether you would go again.
    Thats a tough one. At the start of the week I was comparing this to Austria and calling it Sauze D'ont, but after a week of fabulous weather and great snow I have calmed down a bit. Its not for families, kids, beginners. I cannot stress that enough. Sportina is the central point to meet for lessons and its halfway up the mountain. There is only one lift chair up to it, and one 2-man chair out of it (2nd chair was closed usually). There is only red runs down from it! Trying to haul a 4 year old beginner around is a nightmare. the entire resort is built on the side of the mountain rather than in the valley below, so forget about fat poeple or oldies (unless your fromt he north side of cork and used to walking hills)

    Do yourself a favour:
    1. Consider Booking ski rental within walking distance to the main sportina lift.
    2. Leave your skis in Sportina over night - for godsake do not bring them home @ night

    Lessons, well Austria is just better value. Lessons were from 10-12:30 for the same price as Austria where we could get 10-3 including lunchtime cover for the kids.

    Someone in Sauze needs to invite an Austrian engineer to pay a visit and re-design everything. Italians must be the only ski slope designers to build the top of a lift at the bottom of a hill. No kidding this was standard everywhere.

    There are no blue runs to speak of. There was one that looked great on the map, but half of it was actually uphill. If you can do red runs, into blue, than into trees, than in to red, than into blue, and finally down to the bottom on red you will be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Mmmm_Lemony


    WHERE:

    Söll, Skiwelt Region, Austria

    MAPS and WEBCAMS:

    Piste Map
    Webcam

    WHEN:

    20th Feb – 27th Feb, 2010

    LEVEL:

    Intermediate skier, Beginner Boarder
    Found the level of most on the slopes to be very good compared to where i have been before

    CONDITIONS:

    Very very VERY! warm unfortunately. Start of the week was icy in places and slushy in others. Spent 3 days on the board then switched to twin tips. Got very choppy and slushy in the afternoon most days. Made it very strenuous to ski and made the chance of injury more likely.

    There was a big dump on the friday and around the sheffau and ellmau area there was some fantastic chances for a little off-piste just beside the pistes. The main runs seem to be an alful lot wider here too.

    THE SKIING:

    On piste skiing was very good in the morning considering it was so warm, because the groomers looked to be going all night but as it is a busy time of year, by the end of the day you were fighting with the slush/ice/moguls to get back home.

    Off piste was very dodgy until the last day. Not a huge amount but enough to change it up a bit and easily accessible from lifts and gondolas. On the last day I pretty much had every slope to myself, it felt eerily quiet.

    Not alot of blacks in Soll but over the area there is enough. There is something for everyone here. And if the conditions are very good, it would be absolutely fantastic. I don't think its that boarder friendly though in Soll. And there isn't alot on offer in Soll itself as a beginner either.

    As I am only a beginner I chose mostly blues and a couple of traversing reds for the first day. Some of the blues are terrible though. Narrow and too flat in areas which can be a nightmare on a board. I ditched the board after the third day as I kept catching my heel edge and pounding my tailbone on these runs.

    That said, there is well over 250km of piste availble in the greater skiwelt region. Parts of sheffau and ellmau and going were beautiful and not as busy as soll which meant the conditions held up alot better over the day. Lots more blues here too and the same said for westendorf.

    If I could give anyone advice who is staying in soll it would be from the very first morning to spend the first few days skiing/boarding your way around the different areas of the skiwelt. We didn't really do this until mid-week. Exploring the mountains early is the way forward. It can be a little confusing at times but well worth it.

    Sunday is a bit of a headache for lift queues in the morning, and the home run from 4 onwards would be like trying to ski down grafton street in the january sales. Ridiculous! I'm ashamed to say we got the gondola down most days :O


    NATIONALITIES:

    Mostly Irish! Few english and a few Scots. Obviously alot of austrians and germans. It was Dutch mid-term and there was a few dutch about the place but not much. Apart from this mostly Austrians and Germans as you can imagine.

    COST:

    Went with a Package, DirectSki

    Dublin - Innsbruck, Directski, 3* HB, Allocation on Arrival
    Stayed in Hotel Austria, with a bus load of Irish.

    Ski pass - €189 for the entire region. I think you can pay an extra 20 to cover kitzbuhel as well but there is enough to keep you going in the skiwelt for 2 weeks, never mind 1!

    Ski gear - €75 for 3 Days Twin Tips, boots, poles

    Private Lesson - €45 per hour (Min of 2hrs with Blacksheep)
    My brother got this and thought it was well worth it

    Food - All very good, never had any problems. About 30-40 for 2/3 course for 2 in most places. Reasonable enough.

    Some of the station restaurants can be a bit pricey but the food is all good.

    Pint - 3.20 -3.60,
    Jaerger Bombs - Not sure (Could never remember, but never had a penny coming home :O)

    ACCOMMODATION:

    Hotel itself was basic enough. Austrian Twin, balcony. No laundry service in the hotel or soll which was a bit weird. Room was tiny, but everyone was really nice, apart from a blonde waitress who was touch and go what kind of mood she was in.

    Food in the hotel was again basic enough but delicious at the same time, well cooked. Breakfast was continental. Dinner was 3 courses, with a choice of 2 Mains. Vegitarian on request It was just me and my brother and each room is assigned a table of about 6/8 which is a good way to meet new people (while sober).

    Hotel Bar on ground floor was grand and the staff were great craic and very helpful too. There was a bar on the same floor as the restaurant which was handy for a late pint and ham and cheese toasty before bed.

    GETTING THERE:

    Flight was about 2.5hrs. Innsbruck airport is a shoe box. Then 1.5hr transfer by coach.

    You could also fly to munich if not with a package and get a train from there.

    TIPS:

    As I said above, get out and explore the Skiwelt as early in the week as you can. You will not regret it.

    If you need a board waxed or something setup, or even need to rent, Freaks on Snow is the guy to go to. Guys name is Peter, and looks like macGyver but is really helpful.

    If you want to try night skiing, make sure you use the Erdinger garage to store your gear for the week. Shtoll is closed at 6 on the button!!! Made this mistake :(

    Be prepared for a lack of WiFi. The hotel charged 5 per hour and I've had dial-up connections that were quicker!

    Never walk into the WhiskeyMuhle sober...never ever...Its the austrian copers!

    RESTAURANTS / BARS:

    Dorf Stub'n is really good ts right opposite the Hotel Austria. There is a kebab place in Rossinis too and they are awesome. Frenhaurs just above freaks on Snow shop do a nice shnitzel but I wasn't mad about the ribs special, although it was just lacking some pep in the sauce.

    WOULD I GO AGAIN:

    Yes, it's a really great place. I like the food, I like the diversity of the resort and its ease of access. If I was an advanced skiier or advanced boarder I might pick a more 'snow sure' resort. Conditions can be a bit dodgy here. But it was still a great week.



    Heading to Zell am See next saturday...praying for lots and lots of pow!!!


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