Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

Eod100 · 25-05-2020 10:13pm

dregin wrote: »

Since the mail from Leinster says tickets for that match will be refunded, I assume that means they've given up on it.

It wouldn't have gone ahead with fans either way so maybe they're refunding on that basis anyway. Think EPCR still intends to play the game anyway unless this change between now and then

Burkie1203 · 26-05-2020 7:24am

dregin wrote: »

Since the mail from Leinster says tickets for that match will be refunded, I assume that means they've given up on it.

The media reports of derbies followed by a final aren't figment of the journos imagination. They are getting that from people within IRFU or one of the provinces. It has been discussed as a way of finalising the season by the Pro14 powers that be so certain games won't be happening, and others such as the Munster game will be BCD, likewise Sarries game

troyzer · 26-05-2020 7:44am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

The media reports of derbies followed by a final aren't figment of the journos imagination. They are getting that from people within IRFU or one of the provinces. It has been discussed as a way of finalising the season by the Pro14 powers that be so certain games won't be happening, and others such as the Munster game will be BCD, likewise Sarries game

I'm inclined to agree with this.

The draft timetable that the Irish Times published last week looks more and more real with these developments.

I'm due nearly €400 in refunds in that case. Holy ****, I spend way too much on rugby. And that's not including the flights and hotels I've already been refunded for.

ktulu123 · 26-05-2020 2:30pm

Former Former wrote: »

If pro rugby is to have any chance of surviving, we need to keep the broadcasters on side. What you're suggesting would bankrupt us very, very quickly.

Oh yeah I know that, would just be a cool thing to have

26-05-2020 2:59pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

The media reports of derbies followed by a final aren't figment of the journos imagination. They are getting that from people within IRFU or one of the provinces. It has been discussed as a way of finalising the season by the Pro14 powers that be so certain games won't be happening, and others such as the Munster game will be BCD, likewise Sarries game

Someone on a pod said derbies were for full match points but other games were being classed as 2 point draws.

Burkie1203 · 26-05-2020 3:22pm

troyzer wrote: »

I'm inclined to agree with this.

The draft timetable that the Irish Times published last week looks more and more real with these developments.

I'm due nearly €400 in refunds in that case. Holy ****, I spend way too much on rugby. And that's not including the flights and hotels I've already been refunded for.

I'd say the unions backed it too with clubs in agreement. It's the only way back that i can see thats viable

Richie_Rich89 · 27-05-2020 10:06pm

It's interestinbg reading that article on the 42 advocating Carbery at 15 for Ireland to get another playmaker on the field outside the 10. It's something that Leinster will really be lacking going forward as well if they're going to persist with Henshaw and Ringrose in the centre and Larmour at fullback. None of them is really the type of player to deliver a pass under pressure that unlocks a defence. It'd have to be a concern against the very best opposition.

Of the three, Ringrose is actually a technically excellent passer. He's well able to execute good passes. But I still wouldn't really think of him as a 'playmaker'. He doesn't really have the vision and decision making to put someone into a hole with a pass. I think it is a bit of a deficiency in his game.

Suppose we'll see what happens.

Shefwedfan · 28-05-2020 7:32am

Richie_Rich89 wrote: »

It's interestinbg reading that article on the 42 advocating Carbery at 15 for Ireland to get another playmaker on the field outside the 10. It's something that Leinster will really be lacking going forward as well if they're going to persist with Henshaw and Ringrose in the centre and Larmour at fullback. None of them is really the type of player to deliver a pass under pressure that unlocks a defence. It'd have to be a concern against the very best opposition.

Of the three, Ringrose is actually a technically excellent passer. He's well able to execute good passes. But I still wouldn't really think of him as a 'playmaker'. He doesn't really have the vision and decision making to put someone into a hole with a pass. I think it is a bit of a deficiency in his game.

Suppose we'll see what happens.

Who would you play in centre instead?

salmocab · 28-05-2020 7:49am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Who would you play in centre instead?

You know full well who he’d play in the centre

Shefwedfan · 28-05-2020 7:56am

salmocab wrote: »

You know full well who he’d play in the centre

Hahaha, we all need a laugh

Burkie1203 · 28-05-2020 8:10am

salmocab wrote: »

You know full well who he’d play in the centre

Joe Tomane

Shefwedfan · 28-05-2020 8:43am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Joe Tomane

I was going for T’eo

Burkie1203 · 28-05-2020 8:52am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I was going for T’eo

T'eo is at 13

Tuqiri and Lowe on the wings.

Isa at 15

Shefwedfan · 28-05-2020 9:02am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

T'eo is at 13

Tuqiri and Lowe on the wings.

Isa at 15

Magic

Yeah_Right · 28-05-2020 10:13am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

T'eo is at 13

Tuqiri and Lowe on the wings.

Isa at 15

Gopperth at 10 and JGP at 9 then grab some popcorn and watch the hate flow.

thomond2006 · 28-05-2020 10:21am

Steven Sykes and Kane Douglas in the row. Clint Newland at TH.

Burkie1203 · 28-05-2020 12:02pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Steven Sykes and Kane Douglas in the row. Clint Newland at TH.

Jowitt and Auva in the back row

1 Wright
2
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

scott1974 · 28-05-2020 12:07pm

Quote:
Originally Posted by thomond2006 View Post
Steven Sykes and Kane Douglas in the row. Clint Newland at TH.
Jowitt and Auva in the back row

1 Wright
2
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

Struass at 2 and Keith Gleeson at 7..

Former Former · 28-05-2020 12:17pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Jowitt and Auva in the back row

1 Wright
2
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

1 Wright
2 Vermaas
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7 Elsom
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

salmocab · 28-05-2020 1:53pm

Former Former wrote: »

1 Wright
2 Vermaas
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7 Elsom
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

This team needs a PR manager

shaungil · 28-05-2020 3:17pm

Former Former wrote: »

1 Wright
2 Vermaas
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7 Elsom
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

How Tony Goldfinch hasn't made this team is travesty.

errlloyd · 28-05-2020 3:31pm

Former Former wrote: »

1 Wright
2 Vermaas
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7 Elsom
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

Is the team meant to be bad or good?

Because this team is a mix of absolute legends and absolute flops! Where is Kirchener, Goodman, Berqueist,

salmocab · 28-05-2020 3:35pm

errlloyd wrote: »

Is the team meant to be bad or good?

Because this team is a mix of absolute legends and absolute flops! Where is Kirchener, Goodman, Berqueist,

Aaron Dunden at hooker surely? He was a good solid player

dregin · 28-05-2020 3:45pm

errlloyd wrote: »

Is the team meant to be bad or good?

Because this team is a mix of absolute legends and absolute flops! Where is Kirchener, Goodman, Berqueist,

This. What's the team supposed to be??

awec · 28-05-2020 3:51pm

Is it not just a team of foreigners?

salmocab · 28-05-2020 5:03pm

dregin wrote: »

This. What's the team supposed to be??

Just a foreign 15 that aren’t named O Brien

sydthebeat · 28-05-2020 5:59pm

It's not "most tanned leinster XV" or gorgeous Rob would be first on the list

Richie_Rich89 · 28-05-2020 8:07pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Who would you play in centre instead?

Think I'd stick with Henshaw and Ringose for now, even if they haven't ever really clicked as a partnership.

I'd probably be looking to Keenan or Frawley at fullback to be the second playmaker.

Dave_The_Sheep · 29-05-2020 9:24pm

So what did people indicate in the questionnaire today, out of curiousity?

It seemed to imply at the end you almost locked yourself into a decision, but I presume that is not the case.

salmocab · 29-05-2020 10:26pm

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

So what did people indicate in the questionnaire today, out of curiousity?

It seemed to imply at the end you almost locked yourself into a decision, but I presume that is not the case.

Yeah it was an odd one, it said questionnaire but it was just one question and there’s been no real details on the membership Not even a price so it’s a bit rich asking people if they’d put the money toward that.

stephen_n · 29-05-2020 11:17pm

I went for the third option, money was always gone as far as I was concerned. Prefer to see it going to supporting the branch through this.

29-05-2020 11:41pm

Leinster's best NIQ XXIII?

Exclamation Marc · 30-05-2020 4:30am

Saracens refund came through today.

Nice to get it back so handily given the grief on any other refunds these days.

Jersey Puller · 30-05-2020 7:13am

Owen Finnegan’s brief stint worth a mention.

Clegg · 30-05-2020 10:27am

Leinster have posted their top 5 cross field kick trys. Basically the Ross Byrne show. I love it.

https://youtu.be/abVo_J6cwsE

molloyjh · 31-05-2020 10:28am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Leinster's best NIQ XXIII?

That's pretty tough, especially the back row....

VDM Strauss Bent
Fardy Hines
Jowitt Auva'a Elsom

Whitaker Gopperth
Contenpomi Te'o
Lowe Nacewa Tomane

Dundon, OLR, Wright, Triggs, ???, JGP, Berne, Kirchner

Cant think of a 4th back row tbh. Fardy could move to 6 with Truggs coming into the starting XV and Jowitt dropping to the bench. There are a bunch of 2nd rows that I can think of, none of whom though really stood out over the other. Douglas or Sykes would be the best of them.

sydthebeat · 31-05-2020 10:31am

Brad thorns reign as leinster King was quickly forgotten

salmocab · 31-05-2020 11:00am

sydthebeat wrote: »

Brad thorns reign as leinster King was quickly forgotten

A few weeks ago there was argument that he wasn’t around long enough to be a legend now he’s being blanked. We’re so fickle

Former Former · 31-05-2020 11:23am

salmocab wrote: »

A few weeks ago there was argument that he wasn’t around long enough to be a legend now he’s being blanked. We’re so fickle

Not as fickle as molloyjh including capped Irish internationals in his NIQ XXIII...

Bridge93 · 31-05-2020 11:37am

Was young enough so maybe I’m remembering wrong but I’d pick David Holwell over Gopperth if contepomi is playing 12. Spooner was alright too

Hippo · 31-05-2020 11:45am

Bridge93 wrote: »

Was young enough so maybe I’m remembering wrong but I’d pick David Holwell over Gopperth if contepomi is playing 12. Spooner was alright too

Correct re Holwell. Terrific player, very underrated.

Former Former · 31-05-2020 11:48am

VDM
OLR
Wright
Hines
Thorn
Fardy
Elsom
Finegan
Whitaker
Gopperth
Nacewa
Contepomi
Te'o
Tomane
Kirchner

Vermaas
Van der Linde
Green
Douglas
Jowitt
Holwell
Goodman
Tuqiri

Best I can do if excluding guys who qualified on residency.

Faugheen · 31-05-2020 12:08pm

I 100% agree on David Holwell. He was an excellent player.

Buer · 31-05-2020 12:35pm

Hippo wrote: »

Correct re Holwell. Terrific player, very underrated.

Not sure if he's underrated at all by Leinster fans, to be honest. We all thought the sun shone out of his arse.

Burkie1203 · 31-05-2020 1:21pm

No Hekenui lads?

Or Finegan?

irishbucsfan · 31-05-2020 1:47pm

Buer wrote: »

Not sure if he's underrated at all by Leinster fans, to be honest. We all thought the sun shone out of his arse.

He also rose again on the third year to deliver us from the perils of injury

molloyjh · 31-05-2020 7:03pm

Former Former wrote: »

Not as fickle as molloyjh including capped Irish internationals in his NIQ XXIII...

Oops.

Granny15 · 01-06-2020 8:16am

Clegg wrote: »

Leinster have posted their top 5 cross field kick trys. Basically the Ross Byrne show. I love it.

https://youtu.be/abVo_J6cwsE

I don’t. Basically it was a tactic the England rugby union team started using in early 2000’s with Johnny Wilkinson. It was then a rugby league tactic imported into Union and made widespread after Ben Cohen And Dan Luger scored a few tries off it. I seem to remember it first being used on the Lions around that time also. Always hated the tactic for that reason.

The kids that employ it nowadays are akin to showing off to their fathers how good they are without really having any conscience Or rugby knowledge about how it came about and what it represents.

Burkie1203 · 01-06-2020 8:33am

Granny15 wrote: »

I don’t. Basically it was a tactic the England rugby union team started using in early 2000’s with Johnny Wilkinson. It was then a rugby league tactic imported into Union and made widespread after Ben Cohen And Dan Luger scored a few tries off it. I seem to remember it first being used on the Lions around that time also. Always hated the tactic for that reason.

The kids that employ it nowadays are akin to showing off to their fathers how good they are without really having any conscience Or rugby knowledge about how it came about and what it represents.

The cross field kick is an additional attacking ploy which for example a 10 can use to exploit space out wide or in order to get by a defence, defences dominate the game nowadays

Shefwedfan · 01-06-2020 9:23am

Granny15 wrote: »

I don’t. Basically it was a tactic the England rugby union team started using in early 2000’s with Johnny Wilkinson. It was then a rugby league tactic imported into Union and made widespread after Ben Cohen And Dan Luger scored a few tries off it. I seem to remember it first being used on the Lions around that time also. Always hated the tactic for that reason.

The kids that employ it nowadays are akin to showing off to their fathers how good they are without really having any conscience Or rugby knowledge about how it came about and what it represents.

What are you talking about?

So because it was used by league it shouldnt be used in Union???? or because it was used by English?

When executed correctly it is very effective tactic. Ross Byrne one of the best in World at it as well

Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

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