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Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 514 ✭✭✭Mules


    I have visions of someone like Dougal ( from Father Ted) being sent up into space and looking at a control panel with some red buttons on it!
    :D:D You laugh now, but they might crash a satellite down on us!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,170 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Little Prince woke missing from 2fm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Nowhere near the majority are black, but they are represented far over their numbers here. What's even more exaggerated is the amount of mixed race couples they depict in ads compared to the real numbers.

    Part of it is trying to be 'with it', but a lot of it is fear from an online backlash if they don't have enough ethnic minorities in it.

    Ireland has about 1% black population, so do the maths.

    I'm pretty sure that ad about unwanted sexual advances has a 100% white cast. Funny that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Achebe wrote: »
    It's really amazing to see this sort of stuff on an Irish forum.

    I'm not sure I get this right, are you saying that what I said should not be said on Irish forums?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭rightmove


    Little Prince woke missing from 2fm

    and the bells were ringing out for christmas day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Cordell wrote: »
    I'm not sure I get this right, are you saying that what I said should not be said on Irish forums?

    I wouldn't agree with your OP that they responded to, I don't necessarily think the european colonists brought cavillation to the masses of Africa, or any other part of the world, I don't think that Belgium's Congo would in anyway prove that.

    But then I seem to be a contradiction. Half Woke here.


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cordell wrote: »
    I'm not sure I get this right, are you saying that what I said should not be said on Irish forums?

    I’m far from woke but I agree with him. Your terminology is horrible (savages) and that term was applied to the Irish. Which is probably what he was referring to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Kivaro wrote: »
    I hid under the bed after I saw the first icon.

    Iv been burning packages coming to the door. Thought it was nazi memorabilia in the boxes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I’m far from woke but I agree with him. Your terminology is horrible (savages) and was applied to the Irish. Which is probably what he was referring to.

    I see. It was never my intention to allude to that, but still, we should not fear words or ideas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Achebe


    We should be talking about potatoes, whiskey, Guinness and peig.

    Indeed, the only Irish people who could possibly be opposed to imperialism are those who only talk about things like that.
    Cordell wrote: »
    I'm not sure I get this right, are you saying that what I said should not be said on Irish forums?

    I'm saying it's bizarre to see Irish people coming out with tired propaganda for colonial empires.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    silverharp wrote: »

    Gawd, Peter Lloyd is such an insufferable blowhard. I’ve heard the World Cup on occasion be referred to as the men’s World Cup throughout my life. It’s usually just called the World Cup but tacking men onto the front on occasion isn’t a new thing. Especially if it’s an American who wrote that headline (I’m not sure it is). Soccer is more popular with women and girls than men and boys in America. It totally makes sense to me in that context that they would differentiate.

    It’s like the complaint I’ve heard a few times in the last few years when women are referred to as ‘actors’ rather than ‘actresses’. They are usually called ‘actresses’ but I’m 37 and I’ve heard women sometimes referred to as ‘actors’ my whole life. It’s been presented as a new, politically correct thing. Not in my experience.

    The likes of Lloyd above are being overly sensitive IMO. Reading WAY too much into things. It comes across quite petty. Lloyd is just as bad as the overly sensitive women he loves to criticise. Very tit-for-tat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Achebe


    Cordell wrote: »
    I see. It was never my intention to allude to that, but still, we should not fear words or ideas.

    No, it's just the other people who were savages of course. Not us.

    We should call out bad ideas, and praising imperialism is a bad idea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    TRA = trans rights activists (don't be fooled by the 'rights' bit)


    https://twitter.com/xx_chromosomes_/status/1366745844528132098

    That... what? My head hurts. I’m so confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Achebe wrote: »
    I'm saying it's bizarre to see Irish people coming out with tired propaganda for colonial empires.

    I'm not Irish, but my background have no relevance as we all here reject identity politics, right?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Never heard it called the Men's World Cup, never.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    statesaver wrote: »
    Never heard it called the Men's World Cup, never.

    I have! And if it’s an American article, it isn’t that weird.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Invidious


    statesaver wrote: »
    Never heard it called the Men's World Cup, never.

    I've frequently heard it called the men's World Cup in the US. As has been pointed out above, soccer is more popular in the US among girls and women, and the US women's team have won four world cups. The image of Brandi Chastain in her sports bra after scoring the winning penalty in the 1999 Women's World Cup final is iconic for many American women.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Achebe wrote: »
    Indeed, the only Irish people who could possibly be opposed to imperialism are those who only talk about things like that.



    I'm saying it's bizarre to see Irish people coming out with tired propaganda for colonial empires.

    We were part of the British colonial empire through Irish people ( Catholic, Protestant and Dissenter ) serving in the British Army and the British Civil Service.

    Sure, didn't Tom Barry apply to join the British Civil Service in India in 1919. He got rejected and well the rest is history as they say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    silverharp wrote: »
    this is an interesting observation, basically progressives have made sure they never see a black face on their food packaging, I guess its in line with where they live too lol

    https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1366814303626518528

    What does he mean by saying that liberals are no different than they’ve ever been and don’t want people of colour anywhere they go?

    Like, don’t get me wrong, the initial observation he makes is an interesting one but I’m not following his conclusion. What did he mean by that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Achebe wrote: »
    No, it's just the other people who were savages of course. Not us.

    We should call out bad ideas, and praising imperialism is a bad idea.

    Apart from when it is Irish invading that which is now the UK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    The same people who want children’s books like this banned are the very type of people promoting Drag Queen story hour.

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    njb

    I genuinely think I would have found Drag Queen Story Time scary as a child. I’m very serious. My mother never wore make up ever and so whenever any of my aunts or friend’s mothers would give me a hug or a kiss on the cheek, I’d (inwardly) recoil at the mothers and aunts that wore lots of make up. It used to freak me out. I was used to the fresh-faced beauty that was my mother.

    I did go to the circus as a kid but the performers were far away.

    I guess the parents who bring their children to these events might know whether their child will be scared or not? I don’t know.

    In addition, wouldn’t it kind of take the children out of the story? I once heard a children’s storyteller describe herself as the frame if the story was the picture. She’s said she’s not supposed to be the focus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,065 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    I have visions of someone like Dougal ( from Father Ted) being sent up into space and looking at a control panel with some red buttons on it!

    Why would visions of Dougal be coming to your head for hiring disabled people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,065 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Mules wrote: »
    :D:D You laugh now, but they might crash a satellite down on us!

    Ya disabled people are just stupid and do not know how to do a job


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Why would visions of Dougal be coming to your head for hiring disabled people.
    Ya disabled people are just stupid and do not know how to do a job

    Oh ffs.

    I can't believe you need this explained to you. In the sitcom father Ted, dougal was played as an extremely inept person with obvious severe learning and cognitive disabilities.

    This is not to say all disabled people display the same symptoms as all their disabilities are different.

    The poster was obviously, and for comic effect, imagining one of the most absurd scenario, most famous character with one of the most inappropriate disability to suffer from in order to do that particular job.

    There was no malice, no mean spiritedness and your inference that he was slighting disabled people was unnecessary but not unexpected.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,065 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Oh ffs.

    Care to explain or is it woke to explain. If they were trying to joke and I got whoosed fair enough I did not get it but otherwise I have no idea


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Care to explain or is it woke to explain. If they were trying to joke and I got whoosed fair enough I did not get it but otherwise I have no idea

    Just edited my post.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,065 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Just edited my post.

    Was not so hard now was it. I didn't get the joke I don't think going to an obvious extreme is particularly funny I think its rather crass but that is also my humour and opinion or maybe its how you tell them as I can like Jimmy Carr. After all Hawkins was disabled. Never saw Douglas as a low cognitive person who is disable just a innocent idiot or are they called disabled now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    Taking offense on behalf of other people ( who probably wouldn't be offended anyway ) is a top tier Woke-ism.

    It guarantees endless opportunities to whip out the cancel stick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,065 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Taking offense on behalf of other people ( who probably wouldn't be offended anyway ) is a top tier Woke-ism.

    It guarantees endless opportunities to whip out the cancel stick.

    I don't agree from the outset challenging someone is automatically been offended or woke. It should be encouraged. Now if is it is to be offended and to whip out the cancel stick then that should be challenged also. Categorizing something as woke in my opinion is an attempt to close down conversation as it just as bad as using terms such as racist or discrimination in a discussion


  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Achebe


    Apart from when it is Irish invading that which is now the UK.

    Funnily enough, I don't see many Irish people defending that today.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I genuinely think I would have found Drag Queen Story Time scary as a child. I’m very serious. My mother never wore make up ever and so whenever any of my aunts or friend’s mothers would give me a hug or a kiss on the cheek, I’d (inwardly) recoil at the mothers and aunts that wore lots of make up. It used to freak me out. I was used to the fresh-faced beauty that was my mother.

    Did your mother's friends and sisters have horns coming out of their head? Because that would be what would be freaking me out if I was going to that story time!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    I don't agree from the outset challenging someone is automatically been offended or woke. It should be encouraged. Now if is it is to be offended and to whip out the cancel stick then that should be challenged also. Categorizing something as woke in my opinion is an attempt to close down conversation as it just as bad as using terms such as racist or discrimination in a discussion

    Not quite the same thing. And that's another Woke-ism - making false equivalences.

    Woke-isms are clearly an attempt at virtue. Whereas, nobody would claim discrimination/ racism has any virtue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,515 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    statesaver wrote: »
    We were part of the British colonial empire through Irish people ( Catholic, Protestant and Dissenter ) serving in the British Army and the British Civil Service.

    Sure, didn't Tom Barry apply to join the British Civil Service in India in 1919. He got rejected and well the rest is history as they say.

    He sure didn't put that in his book. :D
    Must have forgot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,065 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Not quite the same thing. And that's another Woke-ism - making false equivalences.

    Woke-isms are clearly an attempt at virtue. Whereas, nobody would claim discrimination/ racism has any virtue.

    I think there both the same they are both trying to shut down a conversation by using a word rather then having a discussion

    God woke-ism all over the place. So if woke-isms are clearly an attempt at virtue then would people trying to point out what is woke not been woke themselves as you trying to show virtue


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Apart from when it is Irish invading that which is now the UK.

    The what now? You going back to the 5thC or do you mean immigration or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    I think there both the same they are both trying to shut down a conversation by using a word rather then having a discussion

    God woke-ism all over the place. So if woke-isms are clearly an attempt at virtue then would people trying to point out what is woke not been woke themselves as you trying to show virtue

    Not really.

    Mental gymnastics are the poor man's rational deduction.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,065 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Not really.

    Mental gymnastics are the poor man's rational deduction.

    Well I suppose we will leave it there then


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Mules wrote: »
    Here's one; The European Space Agency is looking to recruit disabled astronauts to increase diversity.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/science-environment-56072219

    Fair enough if the person is up to the job but they wouldn't want to be compromising on safety just to look woke.
    You don't really need legs in weightlessness so there could be a 20% saving on mass. Genius.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I genuinely think I would have found Drag Queen Story Time scary as a child..

    I find Drag Queens scary as an adult no mind as a child.


    edit: In case this comes across as an unfair comment, I got an unmerciful slap across the face once in a gay nightclub (back in my hayday) from a DQ. I was new to the scene, walked up to him in the bathroom and stared into his face in wonderment. Maybe I deserved it, but at the same time I can't rid myself of the thought that if you seek attention you can hardly complain that you get it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Elmo wrote: »
    Did your mother's friends and sisters have horns coming out of their head? Because that would be what would be freaking me out if I was going to that story time!

    Yes, that was the style of the time. :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Six Dr Seuss books the latest victim of wokeism it seems.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2021/0303/1200632-dr-seuss/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,744 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Six Dr Seuss books the latest victim of wokeism it seems.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2021/0303/1200632-dr-seuss/

    Tis grand, dont worry about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,744 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure




  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭carfinder


    Well I suppose we will leave it there then
    Disappointing ending - I was enjoying this particular conversation, but it must have been hard to recover from what was a very witty comment!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭Barna77


    Couple of tweets taken from a thread about Dr Seuss

    https://twitter.com/consciouskidlib/status/969657442102534149
    "0 representations of LGBTQIA+ characters" What does the A stand for now? :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Tis grand, dont worry about it.
    Unfortunately they seem to be all sold out on Amazon.

    Conscious kid could definitely contribute to the woke thread. We need more material.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Barna77 wrote: »
    "0 representations of LGBTQIA+ characters" What does the A stand for now? :confused:

    You'd think they'd have known better than to leave out the LGBTQIAs in 1937. :D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Barna77 wrote: »
    "0 representations of LGBTQIA+ characters" What does the A stand for now? :confused:

    Asexual, I would assume.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Barna77 wrote: »
    "0 representations of LGBTQIA+ characters" What does the A stand for now? :confused:

    Yeah, you can safely ignore everything after the B as it's either political queer theory or a convenience for political critical queer theory which is awful, awful stuff.


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Asexual, I would assume.
    I had another A** in mind!


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