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Rent Roll from 1700's - Decipher

  • 08-01-2015 2:46pm
    #1
    hblock21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭


    Can anyone decipher the attached. This is a rent roll from an estate in Tipperary from 1783 (or was it 1803, cant remember off hand). I'm interested in the 8th and 9th people in the list.

    "Henry?? (Bruf) Bry ??
    Thomas Bryan

    In the next column

    part abbey
    Rapi ??? Mills ?? - 3 lives


    Then in the other picture

    both ?? in arrears ?? (is that what it means?) - £4.0.0 & £5.0.35

    Your opinions much appreciated. Thanks.


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  • #2
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,676 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I think it's Bruf in the first but concur with all your other suggestions.

    The second: it's not definitely arrears - there's a d.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #3
    P. Breathnach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    The second one might be "boath [both] in and as now" - whatever that might mean. It does seem to be a joint holding. Might that be a "+" after Henry Bruf's name?

    The figures seem to refer to acreage, and are aggregated in the next column: 9 acres, 0 roods, 35 perches.


  • #4
    blue banana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭blue banana


    Boath in one leas now ?


  • #5
    hblock21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭hblock21


    blue banana wrote: »
    Boath in one leas now ?

    I'll take that one! Looks pretty much spot on.

    As you may see in the next column it has the name of the new tenant. So both Thomas and Henry? obviously died (or were evicted).


  • #6
    KildareFan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭KildareFan


    is it possible that the 'Rap? mills' refers to an oilseed rape mill - rapeseed oil was used for lamps in Northern Europe up to the 19th century?


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  • #7
    blue banana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭blue banana


    KildareFan wrote: »
    is it possible that the 'Rap? mills' refers to an oilseed rape mill - rapeseed oil was used for lamps in Northern Europe up to the 19th century?


    That looks very likely alright

    "John Kenned of the same, Joint Owner of the Rape Mill" from here http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/oaths/oaths_carrick.htm


  • #8
    hblock21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭hblock21


    KildareFan wrote: »
    is it possible that the 'Rap? mills' refers to an oilseed rape mill - rapeseed oil was used for lamps in Northern Europe up to the 19th century?

    Ya, that looks like a very strong possibility. I have checked and there was a number of rapeseed mills in this area serving the "big house", etc.
    Thanks, adds a bit more colour to my Bryan's.


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