Are we more violent than years ago?.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 01-06-2011 1:30am #1

This gets mention alot from the radio and grandparents,todays society is more violent,im not sure,maybe the crime detention rate was lower and less reported than it was years ago,now with cctv and forensics its easier to secure a conviction.

Saila · 01-06-2011 1:32am

no but we like to show it more on tv

enfant terrible · 01-06-2011 1:32am

No its the most peaceful time in history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ramBFRt1Uzk

Where To · 01-06-2011 1:33am

all together now;

"Lets do the time-waaarrrrpppp agaaaiinnnnn!!!"

strokemyclover · 01-06-2011 1:40am

I'm confused. Are we talking about the Irish or the human race? Ireland....No! Humans....probably!

"Oh sure, begoragh! That evil ECB will punch himself out eventually....then we'll get 'im! Toi! Toi! Toi! Toura Loura!"

TiGeR KiNgS · 01-06-2011 1:41am

more people = more crime

Wolfe Tone · 01-06-2011 1:53am

Its GTA joe, I tells ya, before computer games no one killed anyone.

Ardennes1944 · 01-06-2011 1:55am

personally, i hope all modern guns etc are wiped out and a third world war breaks out with M1s, MP40s and B.A.R's etc used...but thats just me

citizen_p · 01-06-2011 2:30am

I think todays society (last 2 or 3 decades) is much more peacful, due to the meida and international groups which stop coflict escalation and impose sanctions, look at history at the countless battles occupations and massacares...

it was alot easier for 2 nations (or one) to fight and kil eachother without outer interference, compared to now, a good example is tany recent war which is more than likley going to recieve negative conentations, which first started wiith the media and the vietnam war (in comparision with ww2 which was an all for one mentality, with one country united agaist another)

you could also argue the 20th century was the most violent in history with two wars on a worldwide scale and countless smaller wars and a very large death toll. but due to the modern ages international effects and the fact the earth now has well over 6 billion people conflict between social groups is inevitable.

violence is in the human nature andwill continue to be prevelant in the future.

PrincessLola · 01-06-2011 2:35am

"kids these days with their MTV video games.."

Kojak · 01-06-2011 3:13am

Look at the evidence on this forum.

You have the :mad: emo - now if that's not an incitement to violence, I don't know what is.

Ghost Buster · 01-06-2011 9:23am

Yes we are. I just killed my Father and declared myself High King of Longford and intend to bathe in the blood of a horse before invading Roscommon, killing all the male children, raping the few Wimmin i leave alive and killing all the men and planting their heads on pikes on the road out to Knockcrockery. They have great cattle in Roscommon so why wouldnt I.

Actually no. We're not......

Orando Broom · 01-06-2011 10:19am

Is Boards more violent now than it was two days ago?

I think it is.

I remember two days ago posters could safely roam the boards looking for lolz, now they have to scavenge for the remnants of a half used rofl in bands whilst mods attack vulnerable isolated users.

mikemac · 01-06-2011 10:22am

Every generation thinks the next are worse
There are writing from Ancient Greeks bitching about young guerriers hanging around street corners and getting into brawls and riots

Well that's not word for word but pretty much what was written

Kevin Duffy · 01-06-2011 10:33am

International violence, wars etc, have changed in nature, from the large scale allied nations v allied nations involving millions of people in the early 20th Century, to the lower scale of terrorism, popular uprisings and occupied countries, which while it makes the news probably involves far less combatants overall. The unpredictability of that probably makes it a lot more threatening than the actual statistical risk it poses.

Personal violence has, I think, escalated. Your archetypal pub fight used to involve punches and maybe the odd stool. Now, violence goes from a glance to a fatal stabbing, or an imagined personal slight to a pipe bomb with no intervening steps.

So, yes and no is my answer.

seamus · 01-06-2011 10:51am

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Personal violence has, I think, escalated. Your archetypal pub fight used to involve punches and maybe the odd stool. Now, violence goes from a glance to a fatal stabbing, or an imagined personal slight to a pipe bomb with no intervening steps.

I don't think that's the case.

I think what's happened is that personal violence has decreased so that the proper sociopaths now stick out a whole lot more than they used to.

I haven't see a fight in a pub in years, but fifty years ago people would probably remark that a bit of punch-up down the local was a fairly regular occurence. Stabbings and the like happened too, but the vast majority of incidents were just your standard row between two drunks. Sometimes they got "a little out of hand", but was in a minority of incidents.

Now however your normal punch-up is a rarer occurence, so psychos who get "a little out of hand" make up a bigger proportion of the violence, as violence in general has dropped.

Of course it's hard to draw comparisons, because crime detection and reporting rates have skyrocketed in the last 50 years.
So while Jimmy might have taken a kitchen knife to Joe and cut a chunk out of his arm because of a row over land, the local Garda would have broken up the fight and provided that Jimmy got patched up by the GP, nothing would come of it. Now it would be properly reported and followed up.

jester77 · 01-06-2011 10:56am

It's been a long time since I was able to take the family to a public hanging

JohnMarston · 01-06-2011 11:08am

Society in general has developed a desensitivity to violence and violent acts in general. Think of how graphic movies and video games are at portraying violence. But, just as the old saying goes: "Out of sight, out of mind" . If violence is not something a person witnesses on a daily basis, they can continue to stick their heads in the sand and ignore it.

You need to phase out much of the bad stuff that goes on around you, otherwise you'd go cracked

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 01-06-2011 11:10am

No, we are just better informed.

We have always been and we always will be a violent species. It will never change.

Ghost Buster · 01-06-2011 11:11am

JohnMarston wrote: »

Society in general has developed a desensitivity to violence and violent acts in general. Think of how graphic movies and video games are at portraying violence. But, just as the old saying goes: "Out of sight, out of mind" . If violence is not something a person witnesses on a daily basis, they can continue to stick their heads in the sand and ignore it.

You need to phase out much of the bad stuff that goes on around you, otherwise you'd go cracked

Really?
400 or so years ago I would more than likely now be dead but not before having been in a few battles and killed a few others.
I cannot really conceive of me killing somebody these days in spite of having played Grand Theft Auto last week end.

Edit!!! Actually I would probably just be dead after one battle where i wee weed my pants and attempted to kill someone else.....

JohnMarston · 01-06-2011 11:26am

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Really?
400 or so years ago I would more than likely now be dead but not before having been in a few battles and killed a few others.
I cannot really conceive of me killing somebody these days in spite of having played Grand Theft Auto last week end.

Edit!!! Actually I would probably just be dead after one battle where i wee weed my pants and attempted to kill someone else.....

Im not saying video games cause violence, i'm just saying that societys view of violence has changed, but most of us in the developed and relatively more safe world can afford to be naive about it and say that we're living in a less violent time.

Kess73 · 01-06-2011 11:38am

jester77 wrote: »

It's been a long time since I was able to take the family to a public hanging

You must be an old dude if you were at the last legal hanging in Ireland as it was the Limerick guy hung in 1954 for murdering a nurse..

Happynappy · 01-06-2011 12:31pm

' If you think we were bad, wait til you see whats coming next' .... remember this famous quote from

Brian Cowen

Dudess · 01-06-2011 12:42pm

There's the rose-tinted specs stuff from auldies all right - "You could walk home alone at night, didn't have to lock your door" etc, but then again, institutionalised physical abuse of children was accepted - and approved of. Go further back to medieval times and the crazy punishments that were doled out.

So I would say violence is still alive and well, but far less tolerated...

Nodin · 01-06-2011 1:35pm

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

International violence, wars etc, have changed in nature, from the large scale allied nations v allied nations involving millions of people in the early 20th Century, to the lower scale of terrorism, popular uprisings and occupied countries, which while it makes the news probably involves far less combatants overall. The unpredictability of that probably makes it a lot more threatening than the actual statistical risk it poses.

Personal violence has, I think, escalated. Your archetypal pub fight used to involve punches and maybe the odd stool. Now, violence goes from a glance to a fatal stabbing, or an imagined personal slight to a pipe bomb with no intervening steps.

So, yes and no is my answer.

Not really. Back in the 1800's we had a massive murder rate. Immigration and the general European trend towards less violent society has kept it low ever since.

old hippy · 01-06-2011 1:37pm

I got the crap beaten out of me (not just by teachers) several times back in the 80s, also had blades pulled on me on occasion. I'd say we're about the same.

Are we more violent than years ago?.

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