What people from modern times will be talked about in 1000 years?

the purple tin · 29-11-2020 9:11pm

How fiat currency and central banking was a complete sh*t show.

Conall Cernach · 29-11-2020 9:24pm

riclad wrote: »

people like bill gates , he is planning to give most of his money to charity.His foundation works to provide funds to help millions of people
to help eliminate malaria and other disease,s in third world countrys.
People will maybe talk about steve jobs as he was behind the invention
of the iphone which is used by millions of people .
Obama will be remembered as the first black president.
i dont think people will remember most of the film stars like tom cruise
or nic cage in 1000 years .

1000 years is a very long time I'd say incredibly few people from the current era will be talked about then. Da Vinci died 500 years ago and that seems like so long ago, how many artists from 500 years before that can anyone name never mind talk about?

The USA itself may not be around in 1000 years so to most people it could be as well known as the Byzantine Empire nowadays i.e. something you may have heard of but only specialised scholars would know its presidents.

I can't see anyone talking about Steve Jobs, technology will have advanced so far from the Iphone that it will be some weird esoteric device. How many people today know who Samuel Morse was and he is dead only 150 years or so?

growleaves · 29-11-2020 10:10pm

The Lord of the Rings, Brothers Grimm tales from 19th century

the purple tin · 29-11-2020 11:46pm

Conall Cernach wrote: »

1000 years is a very long time I'd say incredibly few people from the current era will be talked about then. Da Vinci died 500 years ago and that seems like so long ago, how many artists from 500 years before that can anyone name never mind talk about?

The USA itself may not be around in 1000 years so to most people it could be as well known as the Byzantine Empire nowadays i.e. something you may have heard of but only specialised scholars would know its presidents.

I can't see anyone talking about Steve Jobs, technology will have advanced so far from the Iphone that it will be some weird esoteric device. How many people today know who Samuel Morse was and he is dead only 150 years or so?

Will there be any fictional characters remembered in 1000 years I wonder?
Like we would remember Robin Hood, The Fianna etc now.

Sarcozies · 30-11-2020 12:08am

Very few people today would be able to name many people from 1,000 years ago, let alone with any real insight into them.

Neil Armstrong will probably be the most likely candidate for people in the year 3000 to be able to name. Hitler would be next I'd imagine. The first man on Mars will be up there when it happens.

Wibbs · 30-11-2020 12:43am

Sarcozies wrote: »

Very few people today would be able to name many people from 1,000 years ago, let alone with any real insight into them.

Well part of that, at least in the West(ME people would know a few), is that records from 1000 years ago were still pretty scant. Go back before that to Rome and we know a load of names, because more people were being recorded by more writers and were making waves. Nero, Cleopatra, Tacitus, Caligula, Julius Caesar, Cicero, Marc Antony, Claudius, Cleopatra, Pliny. Most people on teh street would know at least three of those. When times are good and stuff is being recorded we have more names that come down to us. We know of Leo DaVinci because of the Renaissance where just those conditions were in place. Never mind the advent of printing that started to record more and more people, places and things.

Interestingly oul Leo avoided printing like the plague. Didn't want a bar of it. LIke I dunno a top scientist and artist today avoiding the interwebs. Though as a favour to a mate of his he did design the frontispiece for his book. He was apparently dead sound that way with his mates. But we know about Leo because other people started committing his name and works to books.

irishguitarlad · 30-11-2020 12:46am

Daniel o Donnell

Invidious · 30-11-2020 11:18am

Sarcozies wrote: »

Very few people today would be able to name many people from 1,000 years ago, let alone with any real insight into them.

I'd say only a small minority could name a single influential individual who was alive in 1220. The closest would probably be Richard I (Richard the Lionheart) who died in 1199.

snowstorm445 · 30-11-2020 1:59pm

Invidious wrote: »

I'd say only a small minority could name a single influential individual who was alive in 1220. The closest would probably be Richard I (Richard the Lionheart) who died in 1199.

Genghis Khan? Although I doubt many people are aware what dates these people specifically lived in. We generally remember people coming from certain ages if you go back far enough, as opposed to centuries - for Europeans, the Middle Ages, Dark Ages, Antiquity/Classical World etc.

Might well be the same in the future, although what they'd call our "Age" is anyone's guess. The Atomic Age? The Information Age?

30-11-2020 2:01pm

snowstorm445 wrote: »

Genghis Khan? Although I doubt many people are aware what dates these people specifically lived in. We generally remember people coming from certain ages if you go back far enough, as opposed to centuries - for Europeans, the Middle Ages, Dark Ages, Antiquity/Classical World etc.

Might well be the same in the future, although what they'd call our "Age" is anyone's guess. The Atomic Age? The Information Age?

Pre Calamity Age.

thomil · 30-11-2020 2:20pm

I‘d be willing to argue that we‘re in the middle of a Second Dark Age and have been since 1914. If you look at it, apart from a massive regression of knowledge and critical thought, as well as a massive lack of written records, the Dark Ages were mainly dominated by the collapse of the existing major powers and the emergence of new power blocks in their place after a period of sustained strife and war.

Similarly, given the short life of many electronic storage media, generations several centuries removed from us will likely have little to go on to reconstruct the events of our times. Archeological evidence is going to be more abundant, given how much stuff we‘re building, but will mostly be limited to foundations or basements given how short-lived modern buildings seem to be.

Then, there‘s the ongoing collapse of prevailing power structures. Since 1914, the large colonial empires have crumbled, often accompanied by bloody anti-colonial wars, ethnic conflicts, not to mention two world wars. In their place, new power block are rising. The United States are already established as the planet‘s preeminent superpower. China, while having always been a regional hegemon in Southeast Asia, is asserting its place on the world stage, while India can effectively be treated as a new player, as the subcontinent had traditionally splintered into dozens of independent kingdoms and principalities.
This is all supplemented by the rise of supranational blocks, such as the European Union, ECOWAS or the African Economic Community, both of which have in recent years begun to take more active roles in the development of Africa.

All of this barely scratches the surface of the upheaval the world has seen since 1914 and there‘s as of yet no indication which of these power blocks will dominate the planet in the coming centuries. None of the blocks has any manifest destiny to fulfill, their future fates are very much up in the air.

Wibbs · 30-11-2020 2:22pm

The age of change maybe. If someone was born in 1900 and lived to be 100, they would have seen more changes in tech and the implications of that on wider society than just about any other person in history. They'd have seen manned flight going from balloons to landing on the moon, never mind flight for all(my own father saw biplanes as a kid and saw the moon landing and watched a space shuttle launch). Mass communication from radio(which had just been recently invented) through television, the internet and now billions across the world being able to talk with each other no matter where they are pretty much. From analogue to digital another massive change. The car going from a toy for a tiny number of the rich to swarming across the planet. Splitting the atom and using that power. In medicine antibiotics and mass vaccinations that reduced death tolls by massive amounts. In the world of art everything changed(kinda ran out of steam post the 70's mind you). Religions losing power and influence in the West. Then we have the social changes like drives for equality along race and gender and sexuality lines(or at least the dream of it). Politics shifted massively too. Communism and Fascism came and went and left a trail of destruction and some innovation in their wakes. European colonialism fell. Consumerism went through the roof. The financial world changed radically.

Wibbs · 30-11-2020 2:32pm

thomil wrote: »

I‘d be willing to argue that we‘re in the middle of a Second Dark Age and have been since 1914. If you look at it, apart from a massive regression of knowledge and critical thought, as well as a massive lack of written records, the Dark Ages were mainly dominated by the collapse of the existing major powers and the emergence of new power blocks in their place after a period of sustained strife and war.

Yes and no. The dark ages is an inaccurate and lazy term the more we look at it and was much more about later academics pining for the loss of the Classical world until it's "rebirth"(literally) with the renaissance. And that loss was only in Western Europe, Rome and her knowledge continued on in Byzantium(which the later Islamic empire was able to get inspired by). And it survived in pockets in Western Europe, not least in Ireland. Sustained strife wasn't very sustained at all. EG within a few hundred years of the fall of Rome food production was up and at higher levels than it had been in Rome.

Secondly in our time records have never been higher in the history of the planet. Analogue and digital.

olestoepoke · 30-11-2020 2:32pm

Bob Dylan

Littlehorny · 30-11-2020 2:41pm

Conall Cernach wrote: »

1000 years is a very long time I'd say incredibly few people from the current era will be talked about then. Da Vinci died 500 years ago and that seems like so long ago, how many artists from 500 years before that can anyone name never mind talk about?

The USA itself may not be around in 1000 years so to most people it could be as well known as the Byzantine Empire nowadays i.e. something you may have heard of but only specialised scholars would know its presidents.

I can't see anyone talking about Steve Jobs, technology will have advanced so far from the Iphone that it will be some weird esoteric device. How many people today know who Samuel Morse was and he is dead only 150 years or so?

Agreed, I would say the 20th century itself will be remembered more so than the people than were alive during it.
As a species we took to the air in planes, the micro chip was invented, the atomic bomb, space travel and exploration, our understanding of so much came about in the last 100 years.

flasher0030 · 30-11-2020 2:51pm

Simon Cowell - The King of the entertainers. (Or Sir Simon Cowell as he will be known as by then. Maybe even St. Simon. Who knows).

And lest they forget in 1,000 years, the bronze statue of Simon outside the film studios in London will serve a reminder.

IAMAMORON · 30-11-2020 2:54pm

It depends if we survive the era of information overload?

Nothing is guaranteed or should be taken for granted, that includes the next 1,000 years.

LordBasil · 30-11-2020 3:23pm

Compared to how we view a 1000 years ago, people looking back a 1000 years from now will have much more material to study thanks to photos, films, recordings etc. Hard to know really, if I had to guess I'd say;

Barack Obama; 1st African-American President
Neil Armstrong & Co; First men on the Moon
Depending on how things develop possibly Vladimir Putin & Xi Jinping
Queen Elizabeth II for her longevity if nothing else
Margaret Thatcher as UK's first Female PM and her economic policies.
Steve Jobs - revolutionised handheld technology
Bill Gates
Nelson Mandela - as Africa grows in wealth & power he'll be revered more and more.
Film Stars - depending on what type of films endure then, I think some of Hollywood Golden Era figures will be remembered eg. Marilyn Monroe, Bette Davis, James Stewart
If Christmas still a thing, possibly the likes of Mariah Carey, George Michael, Bing Crosby and so on.
Sport: Unlikely anyone will be remembered much as records will be matched and broken in centuries ahead.
Music: The Beatles, Michael Jackson, Bowie, Elvis, Madonna, Queen, Motown Artists (Diana Ross, Marvin Gaye etc) - they'll be studied in music schools and as part of cultural history.

Ireland: Hard to know what Irish people will be remembered but I think Sean Lemass as Ireland's most progressive Taoiseach, Mary Robinson as Ireland's first female President, Gerry Adams/John Hume/Bertie for GFA, Brian Cowen for the economic collapse in 2008-2010, Leo Varadkar for being first openly gay and mixed race Taoiseach and handling 1st wave of COVID 19 Pandemic all have a good shout.

Or maybe no-one will be remembered because there won't be a human race left.....

Invidious · 30-11-2020 5:32pm

^ I think you're being very optimistic there.

Without googling, how many British prime ministers can you name before Winston Churchill?

Minor figures like Brian Cowan will barely be remembered in 50 years' time, let alone 1000.

iamstop · 30-11-2020 5:32pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Hitler, Mao and Stalin. History seems to place more importance on remembering genocidal maniacs.

Most people forget about this deplorable person
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium

Some other I think will be remembered who I've not seen mentioned:
Banksy - The mystery only adds to the intrigue
Gaudi - The Cathedral should be finished in 100 years and hopefully still standing.
James Brown and George Clinton - Not just for their own bodies of work and contributions to music but also for the shear volume of derivative works made from sampling them.
Prince - The massive volume of work he composed will be studied much like Bach and Beethoven is now.

A lot of history is viewed with certain lenses. Some people who were vilified in their day get canonized over time by people cherry picking aspect of their lives that fits a narrative.
History can be kind to some and quite mean and unfair to others.
People like Churchill is remembered fat too favorably. The same could be argued for Guevara, Guy Fawkes and John Lennon.

whisky_galore · 30-11-2020 6:01pm

Invidious wrote: »

^ I think you're being very optimistic there.

Without googling, how many British prime ministers can you name before Winston Churchill?

Minor figures like Brian Cowan will barely be remembered in 50 years' time, let alone 1000.

Peel, Disraeli, Gladstone, Asquith, Lloyd George.

LordBasil · 30-11-2020 6:25pm

Invidious wrote: »

^ I think you're being very optimistic there.

Without googling, how many British prime ministers can you name before Winston Churchill?

Minor figures like Brian Cowan will barely be remembered in 50 years' time, let alone 1000.

Re; UK PMs - Quite a few actually; Disraeli, Gladstone, Lloyd George, Duke of Wellington, Walpole, Chamberlain, Baldwin

Re: Cowen - Well maybe not him specifically but the economic/financial collapse of the country was historic and unprecedented. I think we suffered the worst impact of the 2008 financial crisis of any country. The robbery of every person in the state to bailout billionaire bondholders will live long in the nation's memory.

kowloon · 30-11-2020 6:33pm

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Shakespeare

Shakespeares Sister

Invidious · 30-11-2020 6:55pm

LordBasil wrote: »

Re; UK PMs - Quite a few actually; Disraeli, Gladstone, Lloyd George, Duke of Wellington, Walpole, Chamberlain, Baldwin

Not bad ... you managed to name seven prime ministers over 200+ years, which I daresay is far more than the average person could get.

Re: Cowen - Well maybe not him specifically but the economic/financial collapse of the country was historic and unprecedented. I think we suffered the worst impact of the 2008 financial crisis of any country. The robbery of every person in the state to bailout billionaire bondholders will live long in the nation's memory.

The Great Depression of 1929–39 has already mostly faded from memory, even though it began just over 90 years ago. Ask people about the credit crisis of 1772 and few would have the foggiest notion. So I'm not optimistic about the 2008 crash sticking in the nation's memory for another millennium.

Wibbs · 30-11-2020 7:12pm

iamstop wrote: »

Most people forget about this deplorable person
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium

Right prick alright.

Some other I think will be remembered who I've not seen mentioned:
Banksy - The mystery only adds to the intrigue
Gaudi - The Cathedral should be finished in 100 years and hopefully still standing.
James Brown and George Clinton - Not just for their own bodies of work and contributions to music but also for the shear volume of derivative works made from sampling them.
Prince - The massive volume of work he composed will be studied much like Bach and Beethoven is now.

A lot of history is viewed with certain lenses. Some people who were vilified in their day get canonized over time by people cherry picking aspect of their lives that fits a narrative.
History can be kind to some and quite mean and unfair to others.
People like Churchill is remembered fat too favorably. The same could be argued for Guevara, Guy Fawkes and John Lennon.

Well Lennon wrote better tunes so...

On music "legends" if you look at history the ones we remember today like Beethoven, Bach, Mozart etc were wildly popular when they were alive and stayed that way after they died. Struggling artists only discovered after they died are by a long way the outlier. Van Gogh has coloured our notions there, but even in his case if he hadn't died he would have been lauded very soon as at the time of his death he was starting to get serious interest(which makes it more tragic).

So over the last century it'll almost certainly be the heavy hitters who were popular when current and held onto that after they weren't that will likely be remembered. The Beatles an obvious one. EG they have sold over 65 million albums and tens of millions downloads just in the US, since 1995. 25 years after they split up. ABBA have sold crazy numbers of records. Far higher than many more vaunted acts. Of visual artists Picasso was a rich man by his 30's and remained wildly popular and well known right down to today where his stuff goes for bazillions when it comes up. Leo DaVinci was very well known in his time, Raphael's paintings were paraded through the streets when they were finished. Popularity and longevity of that popularity together seems to be the trick. Ditto for infamy and longevity of that infamy. So Hitler blows someone like Leopold the 2nd out of the water.

Say my name · 30-11-2020 7:19pm

Nikola Tesla - because of the company run by Elon Musk named after Tesla. It'll be there in 1000 years time in some shape or form.

Henry Ford - the same because of the Ford company. That'll surely be there too.

Charles Dyson - I'm not sure with this company.

Basically if you want to be remembered. Have your name figure heading a successful company and pray that future generations recognize the solidity of that name on the company and continue on with it.

donkeykong5 · 30-11-2020 7:23pm

Tommy Robinson. And Donald Trump.

jmlad2020 · 30-11-2020 7:46pm

Stephen hawking most certainly will. When we are well Into colonising space and able to fully grasp what black holes actually are he will be up there.

Donald Trump will be little spoken about in a 1000 years, despite what some narrow minded people on this thread think. This is assuming he doesn't cause a civil war in the next few years.

30-11-2020 8:06pm

iamstop wrote: »

Most people forget about this deplorable person
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium

Some other I think will be remembered who I've not seen mentioned:
Banksy - The mystery only adds to the intrigue
Gaudi - The Cathedral should be finished in 100 years and hopefully still standing.
James Brown and George Clinton - Not just for their own bodies of work and contributions to music but also for the shear volume of derivative works made from sampling them.
Prince - The massive volume of work he composed will be studied much like Bach and Beethoven is now.

A lot of history is viewed with certain lenses. Some people who were vilified in their day get canonized over time by people cherry picking aspect of their lives that fits a narrative.
History can be kind to some and quite mean and unfair to others.
People like Churchill is remembered fat too favorably. The same could be argued for Guevara, Guy Fawkes and John Lennon.

I don't think people realise how long 1000 years is. Name someone from 1000 years ago that is popularly known

riclad · 30-11-2020 8:13pm

They will talk about who ever invented digital currency like bitcoin,
you can use to buy items on the web, it can be used around the world .who ever invented the web browser and html, making it patent free for any one to use.Western companys are now buying millions of digital coins as an investment as in the past they would buy stocks .
people like the beatles and madonna ,its not easy to make 3 or more classic albums that can still be listened to after 50 years .
great writers like charles dickens and shakespeare will still be remembered .
lenin stalin and mao will be remembered as ruthless poilticians who ruled over millions .

iamstop · 30-11-2020 9:11pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't think people realise how long 1000 years is. Name someone from 1000 years ago that is popularly known

I don't think you realise how different the world is now than it was 1000 years ago. How we process and store information and that there is also vastly more people in the world than 1020

Here is a list of 75 people who are still thought about, remembered and written about to this day:
https://www.thoughtco.com/ancient-people-you-should-know-117290

Wibbs · 30-11-2020 9:19pm

jmlad2020 wrote: »

Stephen hawking most certainly will.

I suspect not. His main scientific achievement was Hawking radiation, but while impressive that's small fry compared to Einstein or Newton. Those two are remembered, even though there were shed loads of other great thinkers in their area at the time. Stephen hawking became a celebrity because of his writing and disability. Again that's a hell of an achievement, but 1000 year legacy? I seriously doubt it.

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't think people realise how long 1000 years is. Name someone from 1000 years ago that is popularly known

Depends on who you ask L and how you pose the question to jog a memory. A European might struggle, though an Englishman might recall King Canute and later the Battle of Hastings with William the conqueror and Harold the last English king, a Spaniard would recall ElCid, an Arab would have a host of names from the first caliphate and outside that empire the pope kicked off the crusades in response to Muslim invasion of the Holy Lands. I'd be willing to bet you've heard of William the conqueror and El Cid and the crusades and you'd certainly be aware of Brian Boru.

riclad wrote: »

They will talk about who ever invented digital currency like bitcoin,
you can use to buy items on the web, it can be used around the world .who ever invented the web browser and html, making it patent free for any one to use.

If you can't name them now, then the chances they'll be remembered outside academia are pretty slim to be fair. Bitcoin may be The Future, or it may be a flash in the pan and a very new economics could come to pass. It certainly will over the next 1000 years. Money of any form as we know of it could well cease to exist. Go back a 1000 years and paper money was unknown outside of China and there it was a direct receipt for coinage that had zero value in of itself, cheques ditto(though the Romans had something kinda similar and there was kinda similar among the wealthy), credit was operated very differently, barter was still very much a thing and the value of coinage was mostly tied to its rarity as a metal.

the purple tin · 30-11-2020 9:29pm

You need a gimmick to be remembered. Newton's apple dropping on his head (never happened btw), Canute trying to turn the tide (also never happened, not like we think anyway). Washington and his cherry tree (never happened) but nice little stories like those stick in people's minds for ages.

30-11-2020 9:32pm

Given his instrumental role in the decision of the UK to opt to Brexit - Nigel Farage.

iamstop · 30-11-2020 9:49pm

I wonder if OP was reading this BBC article?

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20171220-how-to-be-remembered-in-1000-years

snowstorm445 · 30-11-2020 10:46pm

Invidious wrote: »

Not bad ... you managed to name seven prime ministers over 200+ years, which I daresay is far more than the average person could get.

The Great Depression of 1929–39 has already mostly faded from memory, even though it began just over 90 years ago. Ask people about the credit crisis of 1772 and few would have the foggiest notion. So I'm not optimistic about the 2008 crash sticking in the nation's memory for another millennium.

If Ireland still exists in 1000 years, given how many leaders are likely to have gone into and out of office, I doubt someone like Cowen and the 2008 recession would even register with most people. How many High Kings of Ireland can most people name from 1000 years ago, beyond say Brian Boru? At best, you could imagine them remembering the likes of De Valera and Collins, the people who fought for independence and who did much to shape the state we live in today.

Cowen was remarkably unpopular in his time, but even 10 years later, he isn't really very well remembered. He'll probably join the ranks of John A. Costello or Liam Cosgrave in a few decades, a lesser known figure that didn't leave much of a legacy.

Also worth considering that in 1000 years time, the idea that the nations of today will still be around is a big assumption. The map of Europe from even a few centuries ago is pretty much unrecognisable, never mind 1000 or 2000 years ago. And if nations rise and fall in the meantime, people that far ahead may not identify or even bother to remember leaders from previous states or empires. How many of us could name the rulers of Burgundy, or the Doges of Venice?

10000maniacs · 01-12-2020 2:26am

Tastes change. How many people listened to Caruso or Count John McCormack recently? I would guess very few. Maybe John Bowman. And thats only an 80 year span. There will be no evidence of 99% of recorded music in 1000 years. Nobody will be bopping to it, that's for sure.

01-12-2020 9:45am

10000maniacs wrote: »

Tastes change. How many people listened to Caruso or Count John McCormack recently? I would guess very few. Maybe John Bowman. And thats only an 80 year span. There will be no evidence of 99% of recorded music in 1000 years. Nobody will be bopping to it, that's for sure.

But, there will be niche interest, similar to Bach, Beethoven or Wagner. Do you think they'll be forgotten in 800 years time?

Also, what recordings there are of John McCormack would be limited and of poor quality.

Dub Ste · 01-12-2020 11:03am

Freddie Mercury........

01-12-2020 11:08am

iamstop wrote: »

I don't think you realise how different the world is now than it was 1000 years ago. How we process and store information and that there is also vastly more people in the world than 1020

Here is a list of 75 people who are still thought about, remembered and written about to this day:
https://www.thoughtco.com/ancient-people-you-should-know-117290

Agree. I suspect stone carvings will outlive our data storage methods.

Invidious · 01-12-2020 11:24am

10000maniacs wrote: »

Tastes change. How many people listened to Caruso or Count John McCormack recently? I would guess very few. Maybe John Bowman. And thats only an 80 year span. There will be no evidence of 99% of recorded music in 1000 years. Nobody will be bopping to it, that's for sure.

Given digitization and modern data storage (which is only likely to improve in capacity and reliability over the coming centuries) it's reasonable to assume that today's recorded music will be preserved. Whether people will still be listening to Lady Gaga or AC/DC in the thirty-first century is another story.

LordBasil · 01-12-2020 1:57pm

Invidious wrote: »

Not bad ... you managed to name seven prime ministers over 200+ years, which I daresay is far more than the average person could get.

The Great Depression of 1929–39 has already mostly faded from memory, even though it began just over 90 years ago. Ask people about the credit crisis of 1772 and few would have the foggiest notion. So I'm not optimistic about the 2008 crash sticking in the nation's memory for another millennium.

Well regarding UK PMs, only a handful from each century will be remembered; 19th Peel, Disraeli, Gladstone
20th Lloyd George, Churchill, Atlee & Thatcher

Re 2008 Crisis, well maybe not in a 1000 years but the effect politically at least on Ireland will have a long term impact as FFs decline has lead to the emergence of SF as a political force in the Republic. Who knows what will cause going forward.

In a 1000 years maybe there won't be a Britain & Ireland left, we'll be underwater.

tom1ie · 01-12-2020 2:00pm

“Shower of bastards ruined the earth and we are only just getting back on our feet”

Says the fella in 1000 years.

the purple tin · 01-12-2020 2:00pm

Invidious wrote: »

Given digitization and modern data storage (which is only likely to improve in capacity and reliability over the coming centuries) it's reasonable to assume that today's recorded music will be preserved. Whether people will still be listening to Lady Gaga or AC/DC in the thirty-first century is another story.

Data storage is coming on in leaps and bounds behind the scenes. They have found a way to store data on small pieces of special glass now.
This scientist was saying he could get the whole London library on this little piece of glass.

01-12-2020 2:02pm

tom1ie wrote: »

“Shower of bastards ruined the earth and we are only just getting back on our feet”

Says the fella in 1000 years.

You think there will be gender identifying pronouns in 1,000 years? That's a bold prediction.

tom1ie · 01-12-2020 2:12pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You think there will be gender identifying pronouns in 1,000 years? That's a bold prediction.

Lol! Oh yeah there’s me using the original gender tags. Silly me!

RandomViewer · 01-12-2020 2:14pm

Harry Ferguson,

Invidious · 01-12-2020 2:20pm

LordBasil wrote: »

Well regarding UK PMs, only a handful from each century will be remembered; 19th Peel, Disraeli, Gladstone
20th Lloyd George, Churchill, Atlee & Thatcher

I'd be very surprised if any of those is remembered in 1,000 years time. Maybe Churchill at best. The vast majority of people today couldn't tell you a single thing about Clement Attlee, and it's only been 70 years since he was PM. What will they know about him after 700 years?

Re 2008 Crisis, well maybe not in a 1000 years but the effect politically at least on Ireland will have a long term impact as FFs decline has lead to the emergence of SF as a political force in the Republic. Who knows what will cause going forward.

We're talking here about political parties that have barely been in existence for a century. I don't think it's likely that they'll last another century, let alone a millennium. Hugely popular parties of the nineteeth century have already faded from memory, and the likes of FF and SF will follow suit eventually.

01-12-2020 2:30pm

spook_cook wrote: »

He had a good PR team but tbh you wouldn't even name him with the biggies of the 20th century, never mind a coming millenium.

He's like Vinnie Jones. Did some good, got his name out there but not really known for the actual sport side of things, more as a media person and the sport has long since left his contributions behind.

When it's called spook_cook radiation come back to us

LordBasil · 01-12-2020 2:32pm

Invidious wrote: »

I'd be very surprised if any of those is remembered in 1,000 years time. Maybe Churchill at best. The vast majority of people today couldn't tell you a single thing about Clement Attlee, and it's only been 70 years since he was PM. What will they know about him after 700 years?

We're talking here about political parties that have barely been in existence for a century. I don't think it's likely that they'll last another century, let alone a millennium. Hugely popular parties of the nineteeth century have already faded from memory, and the likes of FF and SF will follow suit eventually.

Atlee founded the NHS and Welfare State, I think he was quite important in British History. Yes of course political parties rise and fall and SF, FF & FG won't be around in 100s of years but their current popularity or lack of, will be used by future historians to analyse attitudes and aspirations of Irish people ie moving away from materialism during the Celtic Tiger to becoming more pre-occupied of social concerns (Health, Housing/Homelessness) coupled with social liberalisation (Same-Sex Marriage, Repeal the 8th Referendums)

Impossible to predict how the world of 3020 will look like and who or what will be remembered or forgotten. If humanity hasn't destroyed itself there will probably be half the population of humans not even living on the Earth.

What people from modern times will be talked about in 1000 years?

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