Replacing an Electric Shower

hillbloom · 03-09-2020 11:01pm #1

I need to replace Electric Shower.. Is it a plumber or an Electrician I need to do this job or do I need both..... the plumber to install it & the electrician to wire it!!

awec · 03-09-2020 11:38pm

Plumber. There are also companies that specialise in shower repair / replacement.

If it was a brand new electric shower where no electric shower previously existed then I think you'd also need an electrician.

con747 · 03-09-2020 11:51pm

I would say electrician who does shower fittings, you would need to be sure it is certified in case of any insurance or other issues in the future.

A quote from, https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/living/2018/0823/987065-5-ways-your-renovation-could-be-breaking-the-law/

"Take for instance shower upgrades. Showers are the culprits behind more and more home electrical disasters, as more people attempt to rewire older models for new ones. More often than not, attempted home renovations lead to the wrong size cable being used in the wiring, which causes blown fuses and other complications as the shower pulls more electricity than its wires can manage.

You should never DIY electrical works in your bathroom, as rooms containing a bath or shower basin are known as ‘special locations’ – only a REC can legally carry out electrical works in these locations."

hillbloom · 04-09-2020 1:23pm

awec wrote: »

Plumber. There are also companies that specialise in shower repair / replacement.

If it was a brand new electric shower where no electric shower previously existed then I think you'd also need an electrician.

Its replacing the old one. I have to consider the expense as well!Thanks

GreeBo · 04-09-2020 3:23pm

What model are you replacing?

If its Triton then the footprints between new and old can be identical so no need for sparks or plumber (if you know what you are doing!)

coxy123 · 07-09-2020 8:54pm

I'm in the process of ordering a new Triton T90SR to replace a T90SI. Same footprint as GreeBo says. I need to understand how to cut the tank fed water supply to do the change over - wondering what's involved with this.

GreeBo · 07-09-2020 9:02pm

coxy123 wrote: »

I'm in the process of ordering a new Triton T90SR to replace a T90SI. Same footprint as GreeBo says. I need to understand how to cut the tank fed water supply to do the change over - wondering what's involved with this.

Head up to the attic and it should be pretty obvious which pipe you need to shut the valve on.

Don't forget the isolation switch and rcbo for good measure.

Though if you don't know how to turn off the water, maybe doing this yourself isn't for you...

Heighway61 · 08-09-2020 8:52pm

I'm in the same boat, x 2.

Two showers failed - a Triton AS2000X and a Triton T90XR. Think I will go with an electrician to be on the safe side.

Was wondering if anyone would know the replacements for these two models that would have the same footprints?

Don't really want to break the tiles for new connections.

meercat · 08-09-2020 9:19pm

Heighway61 wrote: »

I'm in the same boat, x 2.

Two showers failed - a Triton AS2000X and a Triton T90XR. Think I will go with an electrician to be on the safe side.

Was wondering if anyone would know the replacements for these two models that would have the same footprints?

Don't really want to break the tiles for new connections.

Try posting in the plumbing forum. Sleeper12 is top man with shower related issues.

Sleeper12 · 09-09-2020 8:12am

Heighway61 wrote:

Two showers failed - a Triton AS2000X and a Triton T90XR. Think I will go with an electrician to be on the safe side.

Triton T90xr is now the Triton T90sr & the AS2000XT is now the Triton Novel SR silent. The novel is probably the best all in one power shower on the market.

Heighway61 · 09-09-2020 10:00am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Triton T90xr is now the Triton T90sr & the AS2000XT is now the Triton Novel SR silent. The novel is probably the best all in one power shower on the market.

Perfect, thanks.

amadangomor · 09-09-2020 10:06am

GreeBo wrote: »

What model are you replacing?

If its Triton then the footprints between new and old can be identical so no need for sparks or plumber (if you know what you are doing!)

I did this with a Mira also. Could have rewired it myself easily but got a sparks to do it. Wanted him to check everything was OK ,

He changed the RCBO as it wasn't to spec for domestic shower use.

Heighway61 · 18-09-2020 7:53am

Was replacing the AS2000x with the Novel SR. The SR footprint is 5mm bigger than the AS and with the builders putting the AS too close to the sidewall the SR doesn't fit. So now on top of the electrician (who couldn't do anything but still charged me €65) I need a plumber to move the pipes over a couple of inches and tiling work done. If I can get the same tiles again.

Sleeper12 · 18-09-2020 8:23am

Heighway61 wrote: »

Was replacing the AS2000x with the Novel SR. The SR footprint is 5mm bigger than the AS and with the builders putting the AS too close to the sidewall the SR doesn't fit. So now on top of the electrician (who couldn't do anything but still charged me €65) I need a plumber to move the pipes over a couple of inches and tiling work done. If I can get the same tiles again.

Ah no, you don't need to get all that done. You could have paid a shower repair company to supply the Triton Novel for under 400 euro & it would be done in under an hour. I'm struggling to understand why you called out an electrician rather than a plumber. Most electricians don't like working with water.

It is possible that the pipes are ridged in the wall but much more likely there will be enough play to allow you to move them. Get a good drill bit & drill several holes close together, beside the pipes, in the direction you need to move the shower. Tap them with a hammer to break them off & your pipes should move enough to fit the shower.

GreeBo · 18-09-2020 8:33am

Heighway61 wrote: »

Was replacing the AS2000x with the Novel SR. The SR footprint is 5mm bigger than the AS and with the builders putting the AS too close to the sidewall the SR doesn't fit. So now on top of the electrician (who couldn't do anything but still charged me €65) I need a plumber to move the pipes over a couple of inches and tiling work done. If I can get the same tiles again.

If there is only 5mm difference I dont see why you need to do all that?
Widen the hole by 5 mm and you are done surely?

Heighway61 · 18-09-2020 10:57am

I didn't go for an electrician in the end. It was "The Showerman"

He said the builders didn't allow for the tiling when positioning the shower (side wall) so the tilers later had to cut around the shower. So, it's a minimum it 5mm + tile and at that you're only repeating the problem. Also said the pipes are protuding too far out meaning the new shower wouldn't be flush (back wall) so they need to be sunk further in.

Getting other work done around the house and feeling stressed so at that stage I just switched off and thought get the plumber in and get this job out of my sight.

coxy123 · 27-10-2020 1:45pm

GreeBo wrote: »

Head up to the attic and it should be pretty obvious which pipe you need to shut the valve on.

Don't forget the isolation switch and rcbo for good measure.

Though if you don't know how to turn off the water, maybe doing this yourself isn't for you...

Swapped out my Old T90SI yesterday for the T90SR. Just to advise while footprint is the same the screw holes are different for newer model - 5 needed in total as opposed to 3. Otherwise the swap went fairly smoothly.

Sleeper12 · 27-10-2020 1:48pm

coxy123 wrote: »

Swapped out my Old T90SI yesterday for the T90SR. Just to advise while footprint is the same the screw holes are different for newer model - 5 needed in total as opposed to 3. Otherwise the swap went fairly smoothly.

Two needed. Five holes to give you options. I only have four holding my 65" TV on the wall.

Replacing an Electric Shower

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