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Skyline Mourne Mountain 2018 Oct 20th.

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  • 02-10-2018 4:29pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭


    Has anyone a Strava link they could pm me?
    I can see the elevation and distance etc on the site want to get my head around the route..

    Mods couldnt find a thread but merge if one exists..thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Djoucer


    Has anyone a Strava link they could pm me?
    I can see the elevation and distance etc on the site want to get my head around the route..

    Mods couldnt find a thread but merge if one exists..thanks

    https://www.strava.com/activities/1240252645

    Killer of a course.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    Djoucer wrote: »

    What has been seen cant be unseen... :D

    7th place well done to you...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Djoucer


    What has been seen cant be unseen... :D

    7th place well done to you...

    Ha. That’s not my Strava. I was another hour or so.

    Watch out for the downhills, they’re almost as hard as the uphills. There’s no relief on them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    Djoucer wrote: »
    Ha. That’s not my Strava. I was another hour or so.

    Watch out for the downhills, they’re almost as hard as the uphills. There’s no relief on them.

    My knees know but my brain doesn't seem to have any connection to them on the day......
    Just one thing and I'm focusing on the positives the advertised 3370m is less than 2700m on Strava? Not that it matters still have to do it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    Now that was a tough race!!
    Winner did a time of 3:45...There are no words...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    Anyone in for this years event..??
    I'm registered but looking for a spare if anyone has one available...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    I'm in with 2 others from our club, don't know of any spares going. Fair play to anyone who didn't sign up and feels that they're now fit enough for it. I've a sense of trepidation about the whole day, excitement and nerves. Thankfully it's my last race of the year, might be the last race of my life!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    I'm in with 2 others from our club, don't know of any spares going. Fair play to anyone who didn't sign up and feels that they're now fit enough for it. I've a sense of trepidation about the whole day, excitement and nerves. Thankfully it's my last race of the year, might be the last race of my life!!

    I hear you it might be the last of mine as well terrain is unforgiving...

    Ah my buddy was training for something else thats not going ahead so trying to get him an entry for MM.:cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    All in one piece well at least i think i am (brains still a bit fried if im honest)worst race of my life conditions were horrendous..
    Still in all finished how did you get on AntrimGlens..
    Have to say a massive thank you to all the marshals at least we were moving but it couldn't have been easy standing on the top of the mountains encouraging racers to keep going while they must of been freezing. Defo helped getting me around the course.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    All in one piece well at least i think i am (brains still a bit fried if im honest)worst race of my life conditions were horrendous..
    Still in all finished how did you get on AntrimGlens..
    Have to say a massive thank you to all the marshals at least we were moving but it couldn't have been easy standing on the top of the mountains encouraging racers to keep going while they must of been freezing. Defo helped getting me around the course.

    I managed 6.16 but it was severely tough going at times. We turned the wall at Bearnagh and the rain was torrential and was a real shock to the system. I was worried that it was going to be like that the whole way up Commedagh but it faired up thankfully. Legs started cramping at Commedagh but found Donard easier. Descending was atrocious on every descent and I’ve a fairly sore knee from a fall. I’m stiff and sore but still glad I did it. It definitely helped that three of us did it together to take the lead at different times when it was tough. Done and dusted but not again.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Never have I descended a hill slower than I went up it. Fell so many times on the section down to the reservoir, feel like I was hit by a bus the last 2 days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    I managed 6.16 but it was severely tough going at times. We turned the wall at Bearnagh and the rain was torrential and was a real shock to the system. I was worried that it was going to be like that the whole way up Commedagh but it faired up thankfully. Legs started cramping at Commedagh but found Donard easier. Descending was atrocious on every descent and I’ve a fairly sore knee from a fall. I’m stiff and sore but still glad I did it. It definitely helped that three of us did it together to take the lead at different times when it was tough. Done and dusted but not again.

    You must have passed me coming down Donard i finished a few mins behind you but after the summit to Donard my focus switched to getting down as safe as possible.
    That turn at Bearnagh was a fright to the system alright!
    Would I go back I’m not sure...Race is great but conditions would have me wondering..

    Mloc I fell about 7 times coming down that myself think Ive whiplash 😂


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    No idea how this race is going ahead next weekend with the current situation up north


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,508 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Agreed. Was in for it myself but obviously can't attend now.
    Tried to get a deferral to next year but alas.....

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Agreed. Was in for it myself but obviously can't attend now.
    Tried to get a deferral to next year but alas.....

    Same... got a long winded email which basically said, no :) I am not even that concerned about the entry fee, have written that off already... but would have liked an early entry for next year.

    I honestly think it is madness that the race can go ahead when they are announcing 1000 cases a day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,508 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Same... got a long winded email which basically said, no :) I am not even that concerned about the entry fee, have written that off already... but would have liked an early entry for next year.

    I honestly think it is madness that the race can go ahead when they are announcing 1000 cases a day.

    I made the suggestion to them that they should consider an early entry option to those who can’t travel this year. Got a favourable reply so I’d say it could happen.
    Fingers crossed......

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    "In total, athletes from 14 countries will battle it out for top honours in the majestic Mourne Mountains next Saturday, the 17th October 2020."


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,508 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Cancelled.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    To give it a bit of balance rather than just the bitching...

    MOURNE SKYLINE MTR 2020

    EVENT CANCELLED...!

    OFFICIAL STATEMENT

    (Thursday 15th October 2020)



    We are absolutely gutted to inform you that our Mourne Skyline MTR 2020 has been CANCELLED.

    This is due to circumstances beyond our control.

    We appreciate that this decision will cause an enormous amount of frustration, but we politely request your patience as we use this statement to provide you with the rationale behind the decision.

    Before reading this statement, it is important to note that as a race director, I must abide by Government regulations and consider the associated guidance in relation to COVID-19. I respect that many people have their own views on what the virus is, or is not, but I must work to Government regulations, which take into account specialist medical advice. This is what I would be judged upon should anything happen.

    It is also important that you remember we are a not-for-profit event and as such, how we deal with things will naturally differ from a profit making event management company. In addition to this, because other events are still happening despite yesterdays updated regulations, it does not mean that they are right and we are wrong, or vice-versa. Each event will have their own rationale for their decision. We have made the decisions on our race based on the Government regulations and guidance I have mentioned above and with public safety at the heart of everything.

    Our race day operations had begun earlier this week and had to be halted late last night, Wednesday 14th October 2020, after it became obvious that the new COVID-19 restrictions announced yesterday, and which come into play on Friday 16th October 2020, would have a major impact on our event.

    In terms of the number of participants, which we would have expected to have been 180-200, our understanding (which we had asked for urgent clarification of) is that we could have went ahead with a permit, relevant risk assessments and associated COVID-19 measures in place; this is because our event is an outdoor non-contact outdoor sporting event.

    However, the introduction of the ‘no unnecessary travelling’ guidance and ‘closure of hospitality’ restrictions caused a chain of circumstances, which cumulatively had a major impact.

    Travelling to a (hobby) outdoor sporting event is not essential or necessary travel and by encouraging participants to do this is in breach of the guidance. This is something we looked at, sought advice / clarity on and considered ourselves and this was further re-enforced by concerns from a large number of athletes who could make it to the event but were anxious about going against this guidance.

    In addition to this, the restriction around hospitality has led to some of our race team (and a number of participants) having their hotel / accommodation bookings cancelled. This raises concerns as without a full race team (should any have had to withdraw – through no fault of their own) we cannot deliver our event management plan, which includes dealing with an emergency situation.

    Finally, from an organisational / legislative / restrictions perspective. As we dealt with the announcements from the NI Executive meeting, several of our race day permissions were withdrawn as the day progressed; this had a significant impact on our decision.

    Now we look at what is right, or wrong, from a moral perspective; things we considered in our decision making process. If we look at what is currently happening in our hospitals and the overall reason for the new restrictions being introduced – alarmingly, yesterday (14/10/2020) there are 13 intensive care beds remaining in Northern Ireland, 13!

    Hospital admissions have reached such a critical level that the Nightingale Hospital has re-opened and is being used.

    The restrictions have been introduced as an ‘urgent intervention’ to protect our health services and to protect emergency services.

    I believe that you would support me in saying that mountain running carries higher risks than other athletic sports and thus, the chances of an incident occurring which leads to a participant being transferred to hospital is very possible – over the years, we have had three persons transferred to hospital from the race and we have had to call out Mourne Mountain Rescue Team on one occasion.

    Our event management plan relies on emergency service assistance and that is something I must consider. Is it right that we take emergency services resources away from the current critical situation they are dealing with, to help at an event? Is it right that we potentially (in the worst circumstances) take up one of those remaining ICU beds for an event which did not ‘need’ to happen?

    In addition to this – over the years we have made many friends in the Newcastle area, good people who have supported our event in many ways. Some of those, this week, will see their businesses close, the places they work close and they face uncertainties about the future of their work? Despite the consequences of this, they comply with the regulations because they want to do their part in halting the spread of COVID-19 – then we bring 200 people into the town, against the ‘no unnecessary travel’ guidance. This does not sit well with me!

    I also must also consider our amazing race team; the people who have made our race! I have no doubt that all of them would have run through a brick wall to help us deliver the event this weekend, even with some experiencing issues with accommodation, if we were in a position to proceed. However, I have a duty of care to them. Our COVID-19 measures would have ensured their safety from the virus, but asking them to travel to and from the event for one or two days (depending on their role), against the ‘no unnecessary travel’ is unfair. The excessive travelling after long days also raises welfare concerns for me.

    In closing, these are the reasons behind the Mourne Skyline MTR 2020 being cancelled.

    I understand and appreciate that there will be people who agree and disagree with our rationale. However, I would appreciate your understanding in what is an impossible situation – a situation we find ourselves in together, with none of us at fault.

    Why was the event planning allowed to continue through the Pandemic? Why did you not cancel?

    This is a question I have asked myself as I critically evaluate my own decision making. Looking at it, I honestly believe we did the right thing.

    Planning for the event started in October 2019 and entries opened in November 2019, before COVID-19 raised its head. Through March 2020 – June 2020, we discussed the event on an almost daily basis, reviewing things and considering if a partial refund would be the best way to go.

    Then as we approached the Summer, there was light at the end of the tunnel, restrictions were lifting, and races were starting again. We were getting LOADS of requests to get places in the race (which unfortunately we couldn’t allow). At that point, we saw our event as a real positive thing, something everyone could aim for later in the year – at that point we committed to delivering the Mourne Skyline MTR in 2020.

    A month out from the event (early – mid September 2020) when we made final financial commitments (those that had not already been made), the situation was still particularly good (as good as it can be in a pandemic) in Northern Ireland.

    I spoke to several members of another event race team who had pulled off an excellent event with strict COVID-19 measures in place and one of that team referenced our race as another positive which the participants were excited about.

    Then earlier this month, just after we closed the transfer window, the Irish Government set new restrictions in the Republic of Ireland. From there, things seemed to escalate in Northern Ireland as well and then just this week, the NI Executive announced the urgent assembly meeting which took place yesterday. Interestingly, I heard Robin Swann (Health Minister for NI) say yesterday that 4 weeks ago cases were approximately 120 a month – now they are 1,200 a day (14/10/2020), which shows how quickly things escalated.

    Whilst that meeting was taking place, we had a team on the course marking it – I was packing our hire van with equipment getting ready to leave home for race weekend today, whilst dealing with numerous meetings about the event.

    Late last night, we looked at all of the information we had available and made the decision to cancel the race.

    How do we move forward from here?

    We have answered this question online many times, and albeit unpopular, it is impossible for us to offer a deferral to 2021 or a refund.

    Why? As a not-for-profit event and a volunteer team, everything we bring in in terms of entries, go straight into making the event happen. Therefore, there is no margin for us to work with.

    In addition to this, due to increased operating costs in the COVID-19 environment (inc PPE costs) and cancelled orders (due to COVID-19), the event has lost money in 2020.

    We cancelled the race based on the increased NI Executive COVID-19 regulations three working days before it happened – the 2020 event is paid for; therefore, we have no way of re-imbursing any fees. No event insurance covers the effects of a global pandemic.

    So, what are we going to do about it?

    We genuinely want to do as much as we can – and this is the reason for offering our #MyMTR2020 virtual event.

    In offering our virtual event, we are trying to take away from some of the frustration and anger around the restrictions causing people to miss the event - by offering up a focus, an alternative which allows them to get involved.

    I've said it many times, I’m not a fan of virtual events, but what choice do we have? We can complain and blame each other for something that is not any of our fault, or we can try and make Saturday 17th October 2020 a day of mountain running fun, virtually!

    In offering the virtual #MyMTR this will allow us to send out some of the items that your entry fee went towards – like your commemorative item, which this year is an exclusive Mourne Skyline MTR ‘buff’ which can be used as a face covering, a custom Mourne Skyline MTR 2020 medal, a some energy products.

    In addition to this, if we have a t-shirt in your size, from a previous event, we will send one of these to you as well. Please note that the t-shirts will be distributed on a first come, first served basis (based on when we receive your email with #MyMTR stats).

    Please visit the www.mourneskylinemtr.com/mymtr2020 for full details. It is important that you send us all of the information requested, to allow us to produce a ‘virtual finishers list’.

    We will help those who need it…

    As previously eluded to, we have purchased a substantial amount of PPE to deliver the Mourne Skyline MTR 2020 in a COVID-19 environment. We have no requirement for this and thus, it will be offered to local charitable organisations who can make use of it.

    Perishable items, including water, will be offered to Food Banks or similar worthwhile causes.

    The 2021 event and the future…

    Honestly, after the substantial loses of 2020, we need to look at the viability of the event going forward. This year we have experienced the difficulty and stresses associated with organising a not-for-profit event. For that reason, I do not want to make empty promises – but I will give you several assurances.

    On a personal level, I cannot help but feel that we have unfinished business here – we cannot leave things like this.

    For that reason, you have my word that we will do everything in our power to make the 2021 event happen. If it does, ALL of you who supported us through this year and have suffered a loss like us, will be given priority entry for 2021. How we would see this working is that the entry system would open for you 48 hours before it goes live to everyone – we would send you the link via email - then you have the option of entering in that time. We will then release any remaining places to the wider running community.

    We will put on an event which will make up for what you have had to deal with this year.

    If there is anything above this we can do, we will look at it, but again, I do not want to make promises I may not be able to keep.

    The end… (of this statement)

    In closing, I want to say a massive, heartfelt thank you to every single person who has supported us through what has been an exceptionally stressful and worrying time. I do not want to list individual names as I would forget someone, but you know who you are.

    Also, those who have shown support and understanding since last nights announcement, you have no idea how much that meant. I thank you for this!

    Our race team – I have no words, really – to know that we have you behind us every step of the way means everything, absolutely everything. Thank you!

    If I can ask one final thing of everyone, if I haven’t asked enough of you, please have a go at the #MyMTR Challenge and make Saturday 17th October 2020 a positive day!

    Yours sincerely and with the kindest regards,

    Ryan Maxwell

    Mourne Skyline MTR – Race Director

    Further contact: If you have any questions or queries around this statement or the event, please make contact with us via mourneskylinemtr@gmail.com


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,508 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    To give it a bit of balance rather than just the bitching...

    MOURNE SKYLINE MTR 2020

    EVENT CANCELLED...!

    OFFICIAL STATEMENT

    (Thursday 15th October 2020)



    We are absolutely gutted to inform you that our Mourne Skyline MTR 2020 has been CANCELLED.

    This is due to circumstances beyond our control.

    We appreciate that this decision will cause an enormous amount of frustration, but we politely request your patience as we use this statement to provide you with the rationale behind the decision.

    Before reading this statement, it is important to note that as a race director, I must abide by Government regulations and consider the associated guidance in relation to COVID-19. I respect that many people have their own views on what the virus is, or is not, but I must work to Government regulations, which take into account specialist medical advice. This is what I would be judged upon should anything happen.

    It is also important that you remember we are a not-for-profit event and as such, how we deal with things will naturally differ from a profit making event management company. In addition to this, because other events are still happening despite yesterdays updated regulations, it does not mean that they are right and we are wrong, or vice-versa. Each event will have their own rationale for their decision. We have made the decisions on our race based on the Government regulations and guidance I have mentioned above and with public safety at the heart of everything.

    Our race day operations had begun earlier this week and had to be halted late last night, Wednesday 14th October 2020, after it became obvious that the new COVID-19 restrictions announced yesterday, and which come into play on Friday 16th October 2020, would have a major impact on our event.

    In terms of the number of participants, which we would have expected to have been 180-200, our understanding (which we had asked for urgent clarification of) is that we could have went ahead with a permit, relevant risk assessments and associated COVID-19 measures in place; this is because our event is an outdoor non-contact outdoor sporting event.

    However, the introduction of the ‘no unnecessary travelling’ guidance and ‘closure of hospitality’ restrictions caused a chain of circumstances, which cumulatively had a major impact.

    Travelling to a (hobby) outdoor sporting event is not essential or necessary travel and by encouraging participants to do this is in breach of the guidance. This is something we looked at, sought advice / clarity on and considered ourselves and this was further re-enforced by concerns from a large number of athletes who could make it to the event but were anxious about going against this guidance.

    In addition to this, the restriction around hospitality has led to some of our race team (and a number of participants) having their hotel / accommodation bookings cancelled. This raises concerns as without a full race team (should any have had to withdraw – through no fault of their own) we cannot deliver our event management plan, which includes dealing with an emergency situation.

    Finally, from an organisational / legislative / restrictions perspective. As we dealt with the announcements from the NI Executive meeting, several of our race day permissions were withdrawn as the day progressed; this had a significant impact on our decision.

    Now we look at what is right, or wrong, from a moral perspective; things we considered in our decision making process. If we look at what is currently happening in our hospitals and the overall reason for the new restrictions being introduced – alarmingly, yesterday (14/10/2020) there are 13 intensive care beds remaining in Northern Ireland, 13!

    Hospital admissions have reached such a critical level that the Nightingale Hospital has re-opened and is being used.

    The restrictions have been introduced as an ‘urgent intervention’ to protect our health services and to protect emergency services.

    I believe that you would support me in saying that mountain running carries higher risks than other athletic sports and thus, the chances of an incident occurring which leads to a participant being transferred to hospital is very possible – over the years, we have had three persons transferred to hospital from the race and we have had to call out Mourne Mountain Rescue Team on one occasion.

    Our event management plan relies on emergency service assistance and that is something I must consider. Is it right that we take emergency services resources away from the current critical situation they are dealing with, to help at an event? Is it right that we potentially (in the worst circumstances) take up one of those remaining ICU beds for an event which did not ‘need’ to happen?

    In addition to this – over the years we have made many friends in the Newcastle area, good people who have supported our event in many ways. Some of those, this week, will see their businesses close, the places they work close and they face uncertainties about the future of their work? Despite the consequences of this, they comply with the regulations because they want to do their part in halting the spread of COVID-19 – then we bring 200 people into the town, against the ‘no unnecessary travel’ guidance. This does not sit well with me!

    I also must also consider our amazing race team; the people who have made our race! I have no doubt that all of them would have run through a brick wall to help us deliver the event this weekend, even with some experiencing issues with accommodation, if we were in a position to proceed. However, I have a duty of care to them. Our COVID-19 measures would have ensured their safety from the virus, but asking them to travel to and from the event for one or two days (depending on their role), against the ‘no unnecessary travel’ is unfair. The excessive travelling after long days also raises welfare concerns for me.

    In closing, these are the reasons behind the Mourne Skyline MTR 2020 being cancelled.

    I understand and appreciate that there will be people who agree and disagree with our rationale. However, I would appreciate your understanding in what is an impossible situation – a situation we find ourselves in together, with none of us at fault.

    Why was the event planning allowed to continue through the Pandemic? Why did you not cancel?

    This is a question I have asked myself as I critically evaluate my own decision making. Looking at it, I honestly believe we did the right thing.

    Planning for the event started in October 2019 and entries opened in November 2019, before COVID-19 raised its head. Through March 2020 – June 2020, we discussed the event on an almost daily basis, reviewing things and considering if a partial refund would be the best way to go.

    Then as we approached the Summer, there was light at the end of the tunnel, restrictions were lifting, and races were starting again. We were getting LOADS of requests to get places in the race (which unfortunately we couldn’t allow). At that point, we saw our event as a real positive thing, something everyone could aim for later in the year – at that point we committed to delivering the Mourne Skyline MTR in 2020.

    A month out from the event (early – mid September 2020) when we made final financial commitments (those that had not already been made), the situation was still particularly good (as good as it can be in a pandemic) in Northern Ireland.

    I spoke to several members of another event race team who had pulled off an excellent event with strict COVID-19 measures in place and one of that team referenced our race as another positive which the participants were excited about.

    Then earlier this month, just after we closed the transfer window, the Irish Government set new restrictions in the Republic of Ireland. From there, things seemed to escalate in Northern Ireland as well and then just this week, the NI Executive announced the urgent assembly meeting which took place yesterday. Interestingly, I heard Robin Swann (Health Minister for NI) say yesterday that 4 weeks ago cases were approximately 120 a month – now they are 1,200 a day (14/10/2020), which shows how quickly things escalated.

    Whilst that meeting was taking place, we had a team on the course marking it – I was packing our hire van with equipment getting ready to leave home for race weekend today, whilst dealing with numerous meetings about the event.

    Late last night, we looked at all of the information we had available and made the decision to cancel the race.

    How do we move forward from here?

    We have answered this question online many times, and albeit unpopular, it is impossible for us to offer a deferral to 2021 or a refund.

    Why? As a not-for-profit event and a volunteer team, everything we bring in in terms of entries, go straight into making the event happen. Therefore, there is no margin for us to work with.

    In addition to this, due to increased operating costs in the COVID-19 environment (inc PPE costs) and cancelled orders (due to COVID-19), the event has lost money in 2020.

    We cancelled the race based on the increased NI Executive COVID-19 regulations three working days before it happened – the 2020 event is paid for; therefore, we have no way of re-imbursing any fees. No event insurance covers the effects of a global pandemic.

    So, what are we going to do about it?

    We genuinely want to do as much as we can – and this is the reason for offering our #MyMTR2020 virtual event.

    In offering our virtual event, we are trying to take away from some of the frustration and anger around the restrictions causing people to miss the event - by offering up a focus, an alternative which allows them to get involved.

    I've said it many times, I’m not a fan of virtual events, but what choice do we have? We can complain and blame each other for something that is not any of our fault, or we can try and make Saturday 17th October 2020 a day of mountain running fun, virtually!

    In offering the virtual #MyMTR this will allow us to send out some of the items that your entry fee went towards – like your commemorative item, which this year is an exclusive Mourne Skyline MTR ‘buff’ which can be used as a face covering, a custom Mourne Skyline MTR 2020 medal, a some energy products.

    In addition to this, if we have a t-shirt in your size, from a previous event, we will send one of these to you as well. Please note that the t-shirts will be distributed on a first come, first served basis (based on when we receive your email with #MyMTR stats).

    Please visit the www.mourneskylinemtr.com/mymtr2020 for full details. It is important that you send us all of the information requested, to allow us to produce a ‘virtual finishers list’.

    We will help those who need it…

    As previously eluded to, we have purchased a substantial amount of PPE to deliver the Mourne Skyline MTR 2020 in a COVID-19 environment. We have no requirement for this and thus, it will be offered to local charitable organisations who can make use of it.

    Perishable items, including water, will be offered to Food Banks or similar worthwhile causes.

    The 2021 event and the future…

    Honestly, after the substantial loses of 2020, we need to look at the viability of the event going forward. This year we have experienced the difficulty and stresses associated with organising a not-for-profit event. For that reason, I do not want to make empty promises – but I will give you several assurances.

    On a personal level, I cannot help but feel that we have unfinished business here – we cannot leave things like this.

    For that reason, you have my word that we will do everything in our power to make the 2021 event happen. If it does, ALL of you who supported us through this year and have suffered a loss like us, will be given priority entry for 2021. How we would see this working is that the entry system would open for you 48 hours before it goes live to everyone – we would send you the link via email - then you have the option of entering in that time. We will then release any remaining places to the wider running community.

    We will put on an event which will make up for what you have had to deal with this year.

    If there is anything above this we can do, we will look at it, but again, I do not want to make promises I may not be able to keep.

    The end… (of this statement)

    In closing, I want to say a massive, heartfelt thank you to every single person who has supported us through what has been an exceptionally stressful and worrying time. I do not want to list individual names as I would forget someone, but you know who you are.

    Also, those who have shown support and understanding since last nights announcement, you have no idea how much that meant. I thank you for this!

    Our race team – I have no words, really – to know that we have you behind us every step of the way means everything, absolutely everything. Thank you!

    If I can ask one final thing of everyone, if I haven’t asked enough of you, please have a go at the #MyMTR Challenge and make Saturday 17th October 2020 a positive day!

    Yours sincerely and with the kindest regards,

    Ryan Maxwell

    Mourne Skyline MTR – Race Director

    Further contact: If you have any questions or queries around this statement or the event, please make contact with us via mourneskylinemtr@gmail.com

    What bitching are you on about?

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    What bitching are you on about?

    For clarification lad my response wasnt directed at you.
    Remarks earlier in the resurrected thread..


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,508 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    For clarification lad my response wasnt directed at you.
    Remarks earlier in the resurrected thread..
    I know, I got your PM.

    Same question however, what bitching? I read back on the thread(I assume you are talking about this one?) and can not find anything "bitching".

    Oh and less of your passive aggressive "lad" jibes please.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    I know, I got your PM.

    Same question however, what bitching? I read back on the thread(I assume you are talking about this one?) and can not find anything "bitching".

    Oh and less of your passive aggressive "lad" jibes please.

    Virtual race completed....


    Now have a look back at the timeline of the comments coupled with the RD’s instructions emailed to participants and posted online....its quite possible the person making the comments wasnt even signed up for the event or just chose to ignore the very comprehensive 11 page document released with an explanation about Covid protocols and the difficulty for the organisers in getting this event to the start line.
    The same person as it happens makes an appearence in another event thread North of the border they werent signed up for doing the exact same thing to a perfectly legal race thats still going ahead) coincidence..??

    :D lad....passive aggresive?? Dont ever visit Kildare if that offends you.
    I’ll leave that one for a Kildare native to explain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,508 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Virtual race completed....


    Now have a look back at the timeline of the comments coupled with the RD’s instructions emailed to participants and posted online....its quite possible the person making the comments wasnt even signed up for the event or just chose to ignore the very comprehensive 11 page document released with an explanation about Covid protocols and the difficulty for the organisers in getting this event to the start line.
    The same person as it happens makes an appearence in another event thread North of the border they werent signed up for doing the exact same thing to a perfectly legal race thats still going ahead) coincidence..??

    :D lad....passive aggresive?? Dont ever visit Kildare if that offends you.
    I’ll leave that one for a Kildare native to explain.

    No,still don’t see any bitching.
    With regards to being easily offended you should really look a tad closer to home if you think there is “bitching” going on.

    Oh on that 11 page document, it was the biggest load of non-sensical waffle I e ever read.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    No,still don’t see any bitching.
    With regards to being easily offended you should really look a tad closer to home if you think there is “bitching” going on.

    Oh on that 11 page document, it was the biggest load of non-sensical waffle I e ever read.

    I rest my case :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,508 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    I rest my case :rolleyes:

    Wow, that really put me in my place. And that emoji was a real killer blow.

    I really hope it was worth the three days it took you in coming up with that rebuttal.

    Well done you.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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