General Rugby Discussion II

razorblunt · 23-10-2020 9:03pm

Shîte game in Murrayfield.

RugbyLover123 · 23-10-2020 9:17pm

Simo08 wrote: »

McCaw played hooper and pocock off the park in the 2011 world cup semi final while on one leg. For me he was a far more rounded player than pocock.

Hooper made his debut in 2012.

Buer · 23-10-2020 9:23pm

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Hooper made his debut in 2012.

Couldn't even get on the same pitch as McCaw.

Jump_In_Jack · 23-10-2020 9:28pm

Ben v Sca is a tense match so far, enjoying it

Larbre34 · 23-10-2020 10:34pm

AdamD wrote: »

Baffles me how angry people get at these things. Like are you sitting there actually mad at Robshaw?

Yeah man I'm mad at Robshaw and all 12 of those dumb MFers, cos other situations will arise in rugby over the next few months and their dumb stunt feeds a negative narrative.

What they've done means if an actually important game is 50/50 to go ahead, the authorities are more biased in their head towards pulling the plug, just like the GAA club situation a few weeks ago.

The 12 are stupid selfish gobshytes.

Pelezico · 23-10-2020 10:50pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

Yeah man I'm mad at Robshaw and all 12 of those dumb MFers, cos other situations will arise in rugby over the next few months and their dumb stunt feeds a negative narrative.

What they've done means if an actually important game is 50/50 to go ahead, the authorities are more biased in their head towards pulling the plug, just like the GAA club situation a few weeks ago.

The 12 are stupid selfish gobshytes.

It is just a game....and most young people do not become ill. Complete hysteria by authorities.

Larbre34 · 23-10-2020 11:19pm

Pelezico wrote: »

It is just a game....and most young people do not become ill. Complete hysteria by authorities.

Young people? F that, the whole reason what happened with the Baabaas is so serious is that you create an onward risk of transmission to people outside the bubble when you violate it. Right now the authorities are trigger happy with what they cancel, why give them ammunition. All the people on this forum want to see is pro games go ahead and people paid good money in the game to take some responsibility.

Dave_The_Sheep · 23-10-2020 11:21pm

Pelezico wrote: »

It is just a game....and most young people do not become ill. Complete hysteria by authorities.

Just a game that, even if you ignore the health implications and their influence as role models on (not just young) people when it comes to how they view Covid, the potential for transmission of Covid outside the 'young people' bubble, it also means that the rest of their teammates now have to quarantine for 9 -14 days to be considered for rugby purposes. The Fijians now may be unable to join their country squad ahead of upcoming international games.

They also cost their own union a seven figure sum, it seems, because they don't get the tv revenue and have to pay back Sky. Given the **** situation most unions find themselves in at this time, that's even more important.

And let's not forget, not only did they breach the bubble once, the did it twice! And this is after the coffee shop incident earlier in the year. They clearly don't given a f*ck.

So yeah, 'just a game'.

Buer · 23-10-2020 11:28pm

Hook, line and sinker lads.

thomond2006 · 24-10-2020 12:00am

FFS

Paul Smeenus · 24-10-2020 2:46am

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Just a game that, even if you ignore the health implications and their influence as role models on (not just young) people when it comes to how they view Covid, the potential for transmission of Covid outside the 'young people' bubble, it also means that the rest of their teammates now have to quarantine for 9 -14 days to be considered for rugby purposes. The Fijians now may be unable to join their country squad ahead of upcoming international games.

They also cost their own union a seven figure sum, it seems, because they don't get the tv revenue and have to pay back Sky. Given the **** situation most unions find themselves in at this time, that's even more important.

And let's not forget, not only did they breach the bubble once, the did it twice! And this is after the coffee shop incident earlier in the year. They clearly don't given a f*ck.

So yeah, 'just a game'.

This. The people McFadden, Robshaw and the other super-geniuses have shafted are their Fijian team-mates, and by extension the Fijian team, who have a number of fixtures they'll have to play without self-isolating players.

Burkie1203 · 24-10-2020 7:31am

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Ju And this is after the coffee shop incident earlier in the year.

Coffee Shop incident?

yerrahbah · 24-10-2020 8:27am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Coffee Shop incident?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/may/07/saracens-apologise-after-billy-vunipola-and-teammates-break-lockdown-rules-rugby-union

AdamD · 24-10-2020 9:16am

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

This. The people McFadden, Robshaw and the other super-geniuses have shafted are their Fijian team-mates, and by extension the Fijian team, who have a number of fixtures they'll have to play without self-isolating players.

Eh, have they? Have any of them tested positive? I doubt they have to isolate for two weeks because they went for dinner

connemara man · 24-10-2020 9:23am

AdamD wrote: »

Eh, have they? Have any of them tested positive? I doubt they have to isolate for two weeks because they went for dinner

Yes they're not allowed in camp as the bubble everyone had agreed to (to limit possible contacts) was broken, now they'll have to isolate and not train with their team because of the actions of others putting them at an even bigger disadvantage than before

Cookiemunster · 24-10-2020 9:46am

connemara man wrote: »

Yes they're not allowed in camp as the bubble everyone had agreed to (to limit possible contacts) was broken, now they'll have to isolate and not train with their team because of the actions of others putting them at an even bigger disadvantage than before

There are only 6 Fijians in the Babas squad and they don't play in the Nations Cup thing for another 3 weeks. Their period of self isolation will be well over by then. They have a game against Portugal in two weeks, against whom they'll be fine without those 6 players.

Paul Smeenus · 24-10-2020 10:10am

Happy to be factually corrected if I've got stuff wrong, but it all boils down to letting everyone around them down badly.

Pelezico · 24-10-2020 10:35am

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Happy to be factually corrected if I've got stuff wrong, but it all boils down to letting everyone around them down badly.

You want to be outraged. It feels good.

OldRio · 24-10-2020 10:41am

Some people are dicks. The consequences of their actions seem utterly oblivious to them. Almost childlike.

Rugbymad2020 · 24-10-2020 10:49am

Not sure rig this is allowed but anyone have any idea how I can watch all the games today or even just the Irish game via stream?stuck in Angola and sky Q doesn’t work here even with a vpn.am willing to pay for a reliable stream

24-10-2020 11:35am

It was just a dinner

https://streamable.com/kio9e3

connemara man · 24-10-2020 11:58am

Cookiemunster wrote: »

There are only 6 Fijians in the Babas squad and they don't play in the Nations Cup thing for another 3 weeks. Their period of self isolation will be well over by then. They have a game against Portugal in two weeks, against whom they'll be fine without those 6 players.

Imagine if 6 weeks ago. If some of the non international provincial guys went out and did something like this and by doing that disrupted when the international player's were able to head into camp and delaying and interfering with their prep for an international game we'd be fuming.

They signed up to doing something a certain way to make everyone's life a bit easier and decided to feck over their team mates

Pelezico · 24-10-2020 12:09pm

connemara man wrote: »

Imagine if 6 weeks ago. If some of the non international provincial guys went out and did something like this and by doing that disrupted when the international player's were able to head into camp and delaying and interfering with their prep for an international game we'd be fuming.

They signed up to doing something a certain way to make everyone's life a bit easier and decided to feck over their team mates

Imagine if.....it did not happen. These young men made a mistake. But here is the thing. No young people take covid seriously.

I dont overthink older people are taking this lockdown seriously, judging by my walk in the park today.

OldRio · 24-10-2020 12:35pm

Pelezico wrote: »

Imagine if.....it did not happen. These young men made a mistake. But here is the thing. No young people take covid seriously.

I dont overthink older people are taking this lockdown seriously, judging by my walk in the park today.

'young men'?

connemara man · 24-10-2020 12:38pm

Pelezico wrote: »

Imagine if.....it did not happen. These young men made a mistake. But here is the thing. No young people take covid seriously.

I dont overthink older people are taking this lockdown seriously, judging by my walk in the park today.

I'm not here to defend the rights or wrongs or the effectiveness of lock-downs this isn't about that.

Its about 12 guys in an extremely privileged position that signed upto a certain set of rules to play a game of rugby disregarding those rules by going out. And in doing so they cost the (practiacally broke) RFU tv money, took money out of the pockets of every person that 1 would have played to 2 would have been paid in relation to the game going ahead from camera people on the day to bus drivers that would bring the team to the ground
cost the Fijian players prep time with their national team which they rarely would get.

How these guys couldn't do the same thing in the 5 star hotel they were in is beyond me

Paul Smeenus · 24-10-2020 12:49pm

Pelezico wrote: »

You want to be outraged. It feels good.

I took something someone else told me as gospel, sounds like the details were wring.

However, we are constantly hearing about how much Fiji struggles financially with their international team. Thale money from this game would have meant something to those players. It's nice that professional British and Irish players have so little financial concern that they can be sanguine about it, but to me it reeks of "I'm alright Jack". If you don't find that a bit outrageous, cool for you.

prawnsambo · 24-10-2020 12:49pm

connemara man wrote: »

I'm not here to defend the rights or wrongs or the effectiveness of lock-downs this isn't about that.

Its about 12 guys in an extremely privileged position that signed upto a certain set of rules to play a game of rugby disregarding those rules by going out. And in doing so they cost the (practiacally broke) RFU tv money, took money out of the pockets of every person that 1 would have played to 2 would have been paid in relation to the game going ahead from camera people on the day to bus drivers that would bring the team to the ground
cost the Fijian players prep time with their national team which they rarely would get.

How these guys couldn't do the same thing in the 5 star hotel they were in is beyond me

It's the lack of understanding that gets me. I mean they should know what a 'bubble' is, why they are tested regularly, why they have to remain in that and the consequences of not doing so. Twelve of them. Just bizarre.

Pelezico · 24-10-2020 12:51pm

connemara man wrote: »

I'm not here to defend the rights or wrongs or the effectiveness of lock-downs this isn't about that.

Its about 12 guys in an extremely privileged position that signed upto a certain set of rules to play a game of rugby disregarding those rules by going out. And in doing so they cost the (practiacally broke) RFU tv money, took money out of the pockets of every person that 1 would have played to 2 would have been paid in relation to the game going ahead from camera people on the day to bus drivers that would bring the team to the ground
cost the Fijian players prep time with their national team which they rarely would get.

How these guys couldn't do the same thing in the 5 star hotel they were in is beyond me

Is it really beyond you? They got bored, or didn't think . As for being extremely privileged, they work hard and deserve everything they get.

Get off the high horse. Everyone I know is breaking the rules...everybody.

connemara man · 24-10-2020 12:58pm

Pelezico wrote: »

Is it really beyond you? They got bored, or didn't think . As for being extremely privileged, they work hard and deserve everything they get.

Get off the high horse. Everyone I know is breaking the rules...everybody.

Outrage... High horse... I'm not saying these guys should be shot into the sun or anything. I'm calling them out for being selfish idiots whose actions have very clear and obvious consequences for other people. But it's ok because... boredom... They are grown ass men, use one of the couple of bars or restaurants in the hotel they were staying in and this is not an issue

Paul Smeenus · 24-10-2020 1:12pm

I'm gonna bail before Pelezico starts telling me about 5G.

kuang1 · 24-10-2020 1:15pm

That's my first time using the ignore function in a while.

Now I know it's 6 nations time!

AbusesToilets · 24-10-2020 2:03pm

Rugbymad2020 wrote: »

Not sure rig this is allowed but anyone have any idea how I can watch all the games today or even just the Irish game via stream?stuck in Angola and sky Q doesn’t work here even with a vpn.am willing to pay for a reliable stream

Look up the match threads on r/rugbyunion, they'll.steer you right

OldRio · 24-10-2020 8:12pm

France doing French things from the kick off against Wales. Let's hope the same next week.

24-10-2020 8:12pm

That's a start...

Dave_The_Sheep · 24-10-2020 8:17pm

Scrumhalves who stare at a breakdown wondering where their forwards are instead of getting stuck in - resulting in them losing the ball - do my tits in.

24-10-2020 8:27pm

My stream is in arabic...

errlloyd · 24-10-2020 8:29pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

My stream is in arabic...

Is this not FTA on itv4

OldRio · 24-10-2020 8:29pm

Frances discipline is shocking which brings up the question of who is the ref next weekend?

OldRio · 24-10-2020 8:30pm

errlloyd wrote: »

Is this not FTA on itv4

That's how I'm watching

ScrubsfanChris · 24-10-2020 8:36pm

OldRio wrote: »

Frances discipline is shocking which brings up the question of who is the ref next weekend?

7 penalties
We haven't played 25 minutes.

AdamD · 24-10-2020 8:43pm

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

I took something someone else told me as gospel, sounds like the details were wring.

However, we are constantly hearing about how much Fiji struggles financially with their international team. Thale money from this game would have meant something to those players. It's nice that professional British and Irish players have so little financial concern that they can be sanguine about it, but to me it reeks of "I'm alright Jack". If you don't find that a bit outrageous, cool for you.

How would this money have helped the Fiji national team? These arguments get more and more weird

24-10-2020 8:44pm

Sensational try

swiwi_ · 24-10-2020 8:44pm

That is gorgeous. Such an entertaining 13.

24-10-2020 8:44pm

errlloyd wrote: »

Is this not FTA on itv4

TV's in use!

swiwi_ · 24-10-2020 8:47pm

swiwi_ wrote: »

That is gorgeous. Such an entertaining 13.

And again.

ScrubsfanChris · 24-10-2020 8:47pm

The Welsh are getting shredded

AbusesToilets · 24-10-2020 8:47pm

Think France will Muller us next week tbh

24-10-2020 8:47pm

Wales missing tackles all over the place and getting dominated physically. Could be a hiding here.

24-10-2020 8:48pm

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Think France will Muller us next week tbh

Wales are on the wane post Gatland - they don't have the talent or depth anymore.

salmocab · 24-10-2020 8:49pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

TV's in use!

Strictly?

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