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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Cultivate a culture that doesn't condone that sort of thing perhaps?

    You called Beasty ''the beast'' and Bulford ''Bull''. You sling constant perjoratives at people making valid arguments and do not argue against their points using reason. You call people ''dear'' and insinuate they need to calm down, that they do not read books, that they are TERFs, alt right, bigots, homophobes, racists. And on and on. Don't go crying when you don't win by using these tactics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭0xzmro3n4y7lb5


    Here you go.
    Gruffalux wrote: »

    You called Beasty ''the beast'' and Bulford ''Bull''.

    Yes cause it corrects to Beast and Bull is a word I use:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114747410&postcount=4552


    You sling constant perjoratives at people making valid arguments and do not argue against their points using reason.

    Examples?

    You call people ''dear'' and insinuate they need to calm down,

    My mother used to say sweetie, the kids say hun.


    that they do not read books,

    The person in questioned said I read books. I hope everybody does but if you want to pass off your arguments as intellectual then at least reference your sources. He didn't answer whose research about Hijra he read even when offered two prominent authors?

    that they are TERFs,

    Show me one instance where I called someone a t.e.r.f.?

    alt right, bigots, homophobes, racists.

    Points of views, groups, cliques. I don't call people names. That's the territory of the right.

    And on and on. Don't go crying when you don't win by using these tactics.

    i'M NOT PLAYING.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    I don't call people homophobes - I just say they have homophobic views.
    I don't call people racists - I just say they hang out in racist cliques.
    I don't call people alt right - I just say they are in alt right groups.
    I don't call people bigots - I just say they are bigoted.

    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭0xzmro3n4y7lb5


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    I don't call people homophobes - I just say they have homophobic views.
    I don't call people racists - I just say they hang out in racist cliques.
    I don't call people alt right - I just say they are in alt right groups.
    I don't call people bigots - I just say they are bigoted.

    :rolleyes:

    You can't find any examples then to back up your false assertions . . .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Deleted
    *can't be bothered doing what bad faith posters want - a closure of a thread or continuation in here because they're banned or have really predetermined bad arguments*


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Here you go.

    I don't have to reference anything I have read, this is not a scientific paper. You assumed I didn't know something. You were quite rude, oh go and google it.

    Why would I try and trawl through goodreads to try and remember which books I have seen them mentioned before. I have been to India three times and have read numerous books about India so how am I going to remember which one it was in.

    You were incredibly rude and when I reacted you said peopleon the thread were hysterical. And implied I didn't read and was lying.So not really as innocent as you are painting it.

    Also I never passed off anything as intellectual I replied when you assumed I hadn't heard Hijra before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    You can't find any examples then to back up your false assertions . . .
    Here....
    Yes it’s my fault people are racist and homophobic.
    .
    The constant references to ‘kool-aid’ on an Irish forum is an insidious form of right-wing race baiting.
    I’ve never called anyone a transphobe or racist.
    However, a persons views can be transphobic or racist.
    ... Please for your own sake cease with the Trumpist Kool-aid comment, it’s not healthy and how can you ever think you’ll be taken seriously?
    How can I say people can be transphobic and racist? Because they seek to put trans people in situations where they will be hurt.

    I don’t think I need to explain racism in 2020.
    Terf is too soft.

    Bigot is more visceral.
    When you lie with dogs you get fleas.
    Yet when dealing with those who are backward they are quite effective.
    Because it’s all the same. The anti-brigade are all the same. I’ve seen it all and my dear I’m still here.
    .
    I didn’t say that. I said transphobia is in fashion now, ironic, and the anti-repeal, anti-gay have all moved on to anti-trans.
    Ignorance personified.

    ..Your ideology is just a continuation of the church and the laundries.

    .
    I find all the men here obsessing over trans women really creepy.

    It’s the same side of the coin as the anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers, the gemmaroids complete obsession.

    It’s not healthy.
    You’re very upset. Calm down darling.

    The natural world. Give me a break. I bet you your wardrobe is full of poly blends.
    Reminds me of my favourite song

    SUPER-TRANSPHOBE-FRAGILE-GENDERTOXIC-DOESNTKNOWMUCH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Oh stop wasting energy feed him or her .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭0xzmro3n4y7lb5


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post
    Yes it’s my fault people are racist and homophobic.

    Context but it's not my fault. Who did I say that about?
    .
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post
    The constant references to ‘kool-aid’ on an Irish forum is an insidious form of right-wing race baiting.

    What is it with Kool-aid maybe I'm too old.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post
    I’ve never called anyone a transphobe or racist.
    However, a persons views can be transphobic or racist.
    ... Please for your own sake cease with the Trumpist Kool-aid comment, it’s not healthy and how can you ever think you’ll be taken seriously?


    Find me a time on this site I called a person transphobic or racist.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post
    How can I say people can be transphobic and racist? Because they seek to put trans people in situations where they will be hurt.

    Yes that makes people those things.

    I don’t think I need to explain racism in 2020.

    Maybe on here i do.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post
    Terf is too soft.

    Bigot is more visceral.


    Lingually, Fact.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post
    When you lie with dogs you get fleas.

    Old saying meaning things are catching. Like the numerous paper articles tell us about the rise of the right in Ireland.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post
    Yet when dealing with those who are backward they are quite effective.

    Less progressive, yes.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post
    Because it’s all the same. The anti-brigade are all the same. I’ve seen it all and my dear I’m still here.

    Relates to catching fleas above.
    .
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post
    I didn’t say that. I said transphobia is in fashion now, ironic, and the anti-repeal, anti-gay have all moved on to anti-trans.

    Again they are all related.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post
    Ignorance personified.

    ..Your ideology is just a continuation of the church and the laundries.

    .
    Controlling peoples bodies is a pastime in Ireland.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post

    I find all the men here obsessing over trans women really creepy.

    It’s the same side of the coin as the anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers, the gemmaroids complete obsession.

    It’s not healthy.


    It is very creepy the amount of times I saw people talk about genitals.
    And look at the protests recently they are anti-mask/lockdown but aligned with the right. Why is starting facts such a problem? Will we ban the news?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post
    You’re very upset. Calm down darling.

    The natural world. Give me a break. I bet you your wardrobe is full of poly blends.


    The thread was very heated with the use of the retard term, my granny called me Darling.

    oK i'll give you one, my comedy isn't as good as Des Bishop.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Carerhomeless View Post
    Reminds me of my favourite song

    SUPER-TRANSPHOBE-FRAGILE-GENDERTOXIC-DOESNTKNOWMUCH

    I robbed that from Randy Rainbow.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭0xzmro3n4y7lb5


    I don't have to reference anything I have read, this is not a scientific paper. You assumed I didn't know something. You were quite rude, oh go and google it.

    Why would I try and trawl through goodreads to try and remember which books I have seen them mentioned before. I have been to India three times and have read numerous books about India so how am I going to remember which one it was in.

    You were incredibly rude and when I reacted you said peopleon the thread were hysterical. And implied I didn't read and was lying.So not really as innocent as you are painting it.

    Also I never passed off anything as intellectual I replied when you assumed I hadn't heard Hijra before.

    Try saying it out loud and hear how peculiar it sounds. Actually, drop it into a conversation sometime and let it hang in the air and see what response you get.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Here....
    Yup, not much of a contribution to an open debate thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭0xzmro3n4y7lb5


    Gatling wrote: »
    Oh stop wasting energy feed him or her .

    Bake Off is on I made mini bake wells I don't take food from strangers. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Bake Off is on I made mini bake wells I don't take food from strangers. :D

    More lies


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    I don't call people homophobes - I just say they have homophobic views.
    I don't call people racists - I just say they hang out in racist cliques.
    I don't call people alt right - I just say they are in alt right groups.
    I don't call people bigots - I just say they are bigoted.

    :rolleyes:
    Gruffalux wrote: »

    I think in part it is because so many trans allies and activists are fundamentally misogynists.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭0xzmro3n4y7lb5


    Gatling wrote: »
    More lies

    You see right through me. I was being posh calling them bake wells we actually call them Welsh cakes they are small and have no almond but a cross of pastry on top. Pastry, Lidl raspberry jam because it’s the best and then sponge on top.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    :D

    Yes. Straight out. Not pretending by saying "you have misogynistic views" that I am not calling you a misogynist. Because I am. Many of the opinions expressed in that thread from not caring about women being injured in sports or not caring about girls having a choice what doctor attends her or zero regard for womens comfort in intimate spaces like prisons or rape shelters are the views of MISOGYNISTS. Misogynists dislike women. Yep. Misogynists. See I can say it straight out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Yes. Straight out. Not pretending by saying "you have misogynistic views" that I am not calling you a misogynist. Because I am. Many of the opinions expressed in that thread from not caring about women being injured in sports or not caring about girls having a choice what doctor attends her or zero regard for womens comfort in intimate spaces like prisons or rape shelters are the views of MISOGYNISTS. Misogynists dislike women. Yep. Misogynists. See I can say it straight out.

    So it shouldn't be an issue calling people with your views transphobes then right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    So it shouldn't be an issue calling people with your views transphobes then right?

    I am not afraid of transgender people so it is an inaccurate term to be used for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    I am not afraid of transgender people so it is an inaccurate term to be used for me.

    What if someone deems your views to be indicative of someone who is transphobic?

    Do the people you deem to be misogynistic make open statements about hating women?

    Clearly you feel it's fine for you to label someone as misogynistic by analyzing their opinions but are not ok with other people labelling you as transphobic by analyzing your opinion.

    Why is this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    What if someone deems your views to be indicative of someone who is transphobic?

    Do the people you deem to be misogynistic make open statements about hating women?

    Clearly you feel it's fine for you to label someone as misogynistic by analyzing their opinions but are not ok with other people labelling you as transphobic by analyzing your opinion.

    Why is this?

    You can take this discussion to the relevant thread where I will deal with you as I usually do. I was correcting your inaccurate feedback here by showing that you missed the salient point.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    You can take this discussion to the relevant thread where I will deal with you as I usually do. I was correcting your inaccurate feedback here by showing that you missed the salient point.

    I didn't miss the point at all but nice try.

    Sure let's take this to the trans thread. Looking forward to hearing what double standard you use to justify this ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭0xzmro3n4y7lb5


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    I am not afraid of transgender people so it is an inaccurate term to be used for me.

    Knowledge has moved on from the ‘fear’ definition. That’s why heteronormative is more accurate for homophobia.

    It’s not a fear of trans people but an irrational fear of what people think trans people will take from them.

    Taking Weinberg’s definition of homophobia is a good place to start:

    I coined the word homophobia to mean it was a phobia about homosexuals,” Dr. Weinberg told Gregory M. Herek, a professor of psychology at the University of California, Davis, in 1998. “It was a fear of homosexuals which seemed to be associated with a fear of contagion, a fear of reducing the things one fought for — home and family. It was a religious fear, and it had led to great brutality, as fear always does.”


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭0xzmro3n4y7lb5


    Spanish Eyes reinforces my point about mods.

    It’s only allowed ‘here’ and subject to certain mods
    that he/they can be ‘unmuzzled’ in regards to trans people, asylum seekers, travellers and so on.


    Spanish Eyes says:
    Terf applies to radical feminists. We are not all in that category at all. Some of us are men.

    But from what I am reading here, many have the intelligence to see through this total bullsh!t now. Takes time for the reality to sink in because in fairness the GRA was passed with no reports in the WOKE media. Quelle surprise.

    Same with Travellers, Asylum seekers, and so on. Not allowed to be mentioned at all.

    Muzzled. So places like here (subject to the mods) are the only places we can say things now. Sad indeed,


  • Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭excludedbin


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    I am not afraid of transgender people so it is an inaccurate term to be used for me.
    Don't be one of those people who thinks "umm ackshually phobia means fear" is clever, when it modern parlance 'phobia' is well understood to mean 'irrational fear or dislike of something'. Do you think all homophobes are, strictly speaking, afraid of gay people?

    Here it is, straight from the OED:
    A fear, horror, strong dislike, or aversion; esp. an extreme or irrational fear or dread aroused by a particular object or circumstance.

    That you dislike the term is no one's fault but your own but it is the correct term. Much like racists, the solution is to not exhibit the behaviour that falls within that definition if you don't like being called it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Don't be one of those people who thinks "umm ackshually phobia means fear" is clever, when it modern parlance 'phobia' is well understood to mean 'irrational fear or dislike of something'. Do you think all homophobes are, strictly speaking, afraid of gay people?

    Here it is, straight from the OED:


    That you dislike the term is no one's fault but your own but it is the correct term. Much like racists, the solution is to not exhibit the behaviour that falls within that definition if you don't like being called it.

    And just like racism it's entirely subjective. Some people would argue that things are transphobic that others would not.

    And just like racism it looses its impact once it's applied to everything. If everything is racist then nothing is. The KKK or far right is the same as the smallest mistake.

    If everything is racist then nothing is. Somebody on the thread in question was called racist because they said blacks instead of black people. I don't think that's racist. Another person does. I think being racist is judgement based on race. Completely subjective.

    In the thread in question it's being argued that it's transphobic to have a sexual preference for a non trans person. Do I think that makes you transphobic? No. Do other people. Yes.

    Again completely subjective.

    By using these names with abandon you are making the impact of the words meaningless. You are changing the meaning of the word.

    If everyone is a racist or a transphobe then nobody is.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    i believe that the term "transphobe" has been challenged on that thread as being used to mean "anyone who disagrees with me" and no response was forthcoming

    that thread is a mess alright but the quality of argument is sadly lacking beyond a kind of "lalalala cant hear you!", winkemoji.gif and "you're a transphobe" from the obvious side tbh

    and in hear moaning then that it hasnt been locked.

    rotten stuff


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    i believe that the term "transphobe" has been challenged on that thread as being used to mean "anyone who disagrees with me" and no response was forthcoming

    that thread is a mess alright but the quality of argument is sadly lacking beyond a kind of "lalalala cant hear you!", winkemoji.gif and "you're a transphobe" from the obvious side tbh

    and in hear moaning then that it hasnt been locked.

    rotten stuff

    Actually the use of transphobe has been justified extensively on that thread.

    For example JK threatening her trans character with prison rape based on being trans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,782 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    Actually the use of transphobe has been justified extensively on that thread.

    For example JK threatening her trans character with prison rape based on being trans.
    Why pick that example from a work of fiction? I'm sure there are plenty other, real examples....


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Why pick that example? I'm sure there are plenty others....

    Because it was the most recent one ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    There were others. Manipulating text in an ad for a swimming group to falsely imply that parents were forbidden from attending and therefore it was a front for paedophilia was probably the most egregious example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    Actually the use of transphobe has been justified extensively on that thread.

    For example JK threatening her trans character with prison rape based on being trans.

    That's deep thinking. ...


    Fictional character who is a transvetite not to be confused with transgender is threatened with rape in a fictional crime novel.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Gatling wrote: »
    That's deep thinking. ...


    Fictional character who is a transvetite not to be confused with transgender is threatened with rape in a fictional crime novel.

    You're thinking of a different novel. The character was trans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    You're thinking of a different novel. The character was trans.

    Which one exactly are you referring to


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Gatling wrote: »
    Which one exactly are you referring to

    The silkworm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    The silkworm

    But there was no threat of rape .

    I believe that it was implied if the main character who was attacked by someone who was discovered as being trans could go to prison pre op and it wouldn't be fun which means they would be sent to a man's prison ,the character is a transwoman and lesbian


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,614 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    @Gervais08

    You have to have been registered for 3 months (and have a postcount of 100 or greater|) before you can post in Feedback


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Gatling wrote: »
    But there was no threat of rape .

    I believe that it was implied if the main character who was attacked by someone who was discovered as being trans could go to prison pre op and it wouldn't be fun which means they would be sent to a man's prison ,the character is a transwoman and lesbian

    Yeah I'm sure JK was thinking of all the lesbian fun Pippa would miss out on in male prison and this is what she was being threatened with.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,782 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Is every author who includes casual transphobia in their work a transphobe?

    Is every author who... Etc. Etc...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Is every author who includes casual transphobia in their work a transphobe?

    Is every author who... Etc. Etc...

    Well, there’s also the question of why shouldn’t a transgender character be portrayed negatively in fiction, as well there being positive depictions? Think of any societal group and there’ll be positive and negative depictions.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    Beasty wrote: »
    @Gervais08

    You have to have been registered for 3 months (and have a postcount of 100 or greater|) before you can post in Feedback

    Oh gosh I am so sorry, I didn’t know (please allow this one to apologise and I’ll go!) Delete if Best!!


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Linked topic

    Posters going out of their way on several threads to keep an argument about something going after failing to find satisfaction is a pretty obvious new trend on the site (or maybe I've only noticed it more often lately)

    Is this something that is well addressed in the current mod handbook?

    I know that infractions add up, and mods favour the "give em enough rope" approach but between a single poster being able to wreck three or four threads at a time as well as starting appeals and feedback threads, perhaps a sitewide timeout at the onset of any eh unbounded upset could be judiciously considered more often

    Not even getting into how easy the slow escalation process makes it for re regs to really affect the pleasure genuine posters take from the site- not for a second hinting that anyone currently engaged in behaviour that may fit this profile isn't 100% genuine of course


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Retard isn't really a polite word to use in debate.


    As a noun, no.



    The adjective form can be OK though, depending on context. Describing someone as retarded, not OK. Describing something's development or progress as retarded can be OK.


    Also, if you're writing in French, it's a perfectly OK word.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    The thread on Jk Rowling descending into posters calling black people ‘blacks’ and calling gay people a culture of death. Disgusting.


    Reporting is useless as mods just stalk the person who has reported to find any kind of infraction.


    I disagree on that.


    Oh, hang on. I've just seen the rest of your posts. I'll be leaving you to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,037 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Along with, potentially, adding the “r-word” to the censored words list might I, also, suggest getting rid of the “multi-quote” function?

    I mean, let’s be honest, it only “encourages” the, insufferable, site bores.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Define irony?

    A poster who must surely to jaysis have the "quotation mark" button on his keyboard - worn down to a nub, wanting rid of the "multi quote" function.

    You couldn't "write" this sh1t. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,037 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Define irony?

    A poster who must surely to jaysis have the "quotation mark" button on his keyboard - worn down to a nub, wanting rid of the "multi quote" function.

    You couldn't "write" this sh1t. :D

    Do you not know how the “function” works, M? Oh, that’s right, you prefer the, more deranged looking, “combination” posting.

    5 or 6 individual replies in a row over the course of a couple of minutes. Looking like someone, who thinks they are smart, playing a number of chess matches at once in the park and losing, badly, in every one.

    Never a good “look”, pal.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Do you not know how the “function” works, M? Oh, that’s right, you prefer the, more deranged looking, “combination” posting.

    5 or 6 individual replies in a row over the course of a couple of minutes. Looking like someone, who thinks they are smart, playing a number of chess matches at once in the park and losing, badly, in every one.

    Never a good “look”, pal.

    You're "reading too much" into my post, "pal".

    The irony of a poster, who for unknown reasons places inverted commas/quotation marks in the most random places in his posts (fcuk knows why) to be wanting shot of the multi quote function is, as I said "irony".

    That's the beginning and the end of it "E", came across as a bit "comical" bud, I actually thought you were "yanking a chain":D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Could we get rid of quotation marks altogether?


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    EmmetSpiceland and McMurphy, give up the tit for tat there. No more discussion of the quotation marks though it would be great if everyone could use them correctly.

    Let's get back on topic please everyone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    A Describing something's development or progress as retarded can be OK.

    Also, if you're writing in French, it's a perfectly OK word.


    These use cases were exactly what I had in mind when I posted, obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,009 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    I think I mentioned this before but what is the story with commenting on the weight of people who are in the public sphere?


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