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Treat America the same. Visa Requirements

  • 17-09-2018 8:39pm
    #1
    Daithi_115
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭


    This isn't a problem for me as I have Irish and US citizenship.

    Going to the US, an Irish Citizen (Well anyone other than Canadian) needs an ESTA Visa, while an American Citizen can travel Visa Free.

    In addition if the US Immigration officer in Dublin believes that you might overstay your visa (Why would you? TBH), they may require to buy a ticket exiting the US before the visa ends.

    So should we make Americans do the same.

    IMO Yes. What have they done for us, apart from being one of the first countries to recognize our independence. Irish citizens have contributed to the US for over 100 years

    So what do think?

    Treat the US the same, Visa 30 votes

    No, leave it as it is
    0% 0 votes
    Yes, make them do the same
    33% 10 votes
    Other, in comments
    66% 20 votes


Comments

  • #2
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Thought yanks need a VISA to stay here...


  • #3
    Daithi_115
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭Daithi_115


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Thought yanks need a VISA to stay here...

    To STAY, but not visit for up to 3 months


  • #4
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    They do need a visa..

    Edit, saw OP changed their message a bit.
    In light of that I say, ban them all from visiting for 3 months and make them stay (with a visa of course!)


  • #5
    nim1bdeh38l2cw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭nim1bdeh38l2cw


    An esta isn't a visa.


  • #6
    Mongfinder General
    Registered Users Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Thought yanks need a VISA to stay here...

    They get three month holiday time. Not too many would be arsed staying here. The OP would be better off aiming his/her proposal at citizens of non eea countries who can get here and have fcuk all to go back too


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  • #7
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Eh... How can you legally buy a ticket exiting the US after the visa expires? I wouldn't be too shocked by the thought of having one beforehand. Isn't that kind of expected?


  • #8
    Twenty Grand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    You need an ESTA for the US and an ETA for Canada.

    Both are handy to get. Fill out a form online, pay a few quid and you can travel for 3 months.

    Whats the harm?
    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Eh... How can you legally buy a ticket exiting the US after the visa expires? I wouldn't be too shocked by the thought of having one beforehand. Isn't that kind of expected?

    Easy. You just book and leave. They don't care once you're leaving. They will care if you try and go back.


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sassgyirl1999 wrote: »
    This. It's a visa waiver, not a visa. My Polish coworker who is not yet an Irish citizen has to get a full-blown visa for his Polish passport - even for a holiday. He has to present himself to the embassy in person.

    Welcome back to the cesspit of reason. Your rebranding exercise has me awaiting profundity.


  • #10
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    They ask us if we were involved in the Holocaust. We should ask them if they were involved in the Famine.


  • #11
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    McGaggs wrote: »
    They ask us if we were involved in the Holocaust. We should ask them if they were involved in the Famine.

    Genius!


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  • #12
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Thought yanks need a VISA to stay here...


    And a Mastercard.


  • #13
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    McGaggs wrote: »
    They ask us if we were involved in the Holocaust. We should ask them if they were involved in the Famine.

    Yeh, bizarre stuff that the US wants to know were you involved in something that had nothing to do with their country or their nationals.

    Could understand if they asked had anyone taken part in US war crimes or attacked the US, but instead just randomly asking about (mainly) German crimes.


  • #14
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    McGaggs wrote: »
    They ask us if we were involved in the Holocaust. We should ask them if they were involved in the Famine.

    What?


  • #15
    DareGod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭DareGod


    Don't we heavily rely on Americans for our tourism industry?


  • #16
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,753 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    I remember flying on American Airlines from Charlotte to Dublin and it was announced that non EU citizens needed to fill out some form.


  • #17
    Twenty Grand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I remember flying on American Airlines from Charlotte to Dublin and it was announced that non EU citizens needed to fill out some form.

    Got the same flying from Tokyo to Seattle. Never got it flying from the US to Dublin tho.


  • #18
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,361 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    An Esta isn't a visa. The clue is in the name - visa waiver program. So Americans visiting Ireland are treated the same as Irish visiting the US


  • #19
    old_aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Daithi_115 wrote: »
    Irish citizens have contributed to the US for over 100 years

    So what do think?

    No they haven't!

    They went there for there own gains!


  • #20
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    McGaggs wrote: »
    They ask us if we were involved in the Holocaust. We should ask them if they were involved in the Famine.

    Didnt the American Indians send money during the famine?


  • #21
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Daithi_115 wrote: »

    In addition if the US Immigration officer in Dublin believes that you might overstay your visa (Why would you? TBH),

    Yes, there's absolutely no cases of Irish people overstaying their visa in America............


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  • #22
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,463 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Brazil brought in fingerprinting for US tourists, as far as I know it's still in place.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/10/world/us-and-brazil-fingerprinting-is-it-getting-out-of-hand.html


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