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1billion to build children's hospital

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  • #152
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,111 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    I don't mind the prefab hospital to use as hospital beds. We could easily build a medical facility for general tasks and operations etc and then a bunch of prefab units for patient beds like the Chinese.

    They could spend 2bn on this children's hospital and in 2-3 years they will find flaws. There is too much emphasis on designs that attempt perfection, fully in the knowledge that they will find non structural flaws a couple of years later.

    A prefab hospital bed is still bed than a corridor at a Modern Super Hospital.

    Get off. Go to Australia and have a look at how hospitals should be. Stop with this 3rd rate is good enough stuff. What they should do is legally binding fixed price contracts, with penalty clauses.


  • #153
    nigeldaniel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    What I would like to know and what many more keep asking is why Bam are still getting all the contracts. Surely by now, the civil service have been giving enough scares by what going on with them.

    Dan.



  • #154
    xzanti
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,440 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    nigeldaniel wrote: »
    What I would like to know and what many more keep asking is why Bam are still getting all the contracts. Surely by now, the civil service have been giving enough scares by what going on with them.

    Please elaborate.


  • #155
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    I don't mind the prefab hospital to use as hospital beds. We could easily build a medical facility for general tasks and operations etc and then a bunch of prefab units for patient beds like the Chinese.
    A prefab hospital bed is still bed than a corridor at a Modern Super Hospital.
    And in ten years time when patients are being treated in the corridors of cold and draughty prefab buildings unfit for purpose, you'll stand by the decision to build any old rubbish instead of an actual hospital, yeah?

    I doubt it.


  • #156
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Look up the abandoned cities in China.

    Buildings look amazing from a distance then you get close and bits crumbling away, cracks, huge cracks and much much more defects.

    With all their bat sh1t crazy tradition etc they are mad in a lot of cases.

    The absolute waste of resources and destroying natural habitat etc and rushing builds to make things look better then they are for the economy.

    As soon as this outbreak happened flights should have been grounded as I well believe that the numbers are very much exaggerated or should I say down played.

    That cough hospital will be a morgue.....


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  • #157
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And they will. This is going to be one of those projects that never stops costing stupid money. And all of us so-called nay-sayers will still be told we're wrong and that's just how things are.
    Find me an example of single large civil project anywhere on the planet that came in on time, on budget, and never cost a penny more after the fact.

    Unrealistic expectations are the Irish state's real problem. We seem to have either bluffers or pessimists. No honest realists.


  • #158
    decky1
    Registered Users Posts: 975 ✭✭✭decky1


    don't agree with the cost going up and up ,but is'nt it great that we will have a a Children's hospital no matter what the cost to care for our children, no money can buy them they are so precious.


  • #159
    Ronaldinho
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Ronaldinho


    nigeldaniel wrote: »
    What I would like to know and what many more keep asking is why Bam are still getting all the contracts. Surely by now, the civil service have been giving enough scares by what going on with them.

    Where's the incentive for the Civil Service to act in the best interests of the Exchequer / Tax Payer though? No real skin off their nose either way. #jobforlife


  • #160
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    seamus wrote: »
    And in ten years time when patients are being treated in the corridors of cold and draughty prefab buildings unfit for purpose, you'll stand by the decision to build any old rubbish instead of an actual hospital, yeah?

    I doubt it.

    The prefabs can be replaced. It could be redone every 5-10 years.


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