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The Green & the Greasepaint -Ireland & Hollywood *Mod warning 1st page*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    Alas poor Aravon - yes the 'new' school is the Hogwarts one now owned by Chris de Burgh but that I attended was the original one in Bray town, sandwiched between Meath Road, Novara Road and Sidmonton Square - see below.

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    I had to go to the "new" Aravon a few years ago because my son was taking part in a mini-rugby tournament. The surroundings left an impression.

    I half expected to see a game of Quidditch break out. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Ah Snickers Man - I went to the real Hogwerts after Aravon - St.Columba's College - up the mountain from Marlay Park. All the students wore gowns.... the prefects wore mortar boards for chapel...cloister cricket etc.etc. and as for the buildings. Sorry for going so far off topic CDfm!

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    The only picture that I could find. In my day only prefects were allowed to walk through the Quad as it was known; in the background the cloisters leading to chapel and the scene of many epic cloister cricket games. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Its not really off topic at all -the Hitchcock connection was an absolute gem. His railway scenes could have been shot on the Wicklow Railways and the drama of going back to boarding school.

    Its got me thinking about locations used for Ireland in movies and Irish locations and buildings used in movies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    A 'heritage' movie thread would be great if you can sneak it into this forum! I recently acquired a real Irish gem - "Johnny Nobody" - filmed in the late 1959/60 around Enniskerry, the Wicklow Mountains and on the, by then, defunct Harcourt St.line. It starred many of the greats from the Irish stage including Jimmy O'Dea, Noel Purcell, Cyril Cusack, and a very young Joe Lynch. Impossible to get anywhere on video or DVD and has only been on RTE once in the last thirty years - and I missed it. :D

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    Anybody recognise the location? A lobby card from the movie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    Ah Snickers Man - I went to the real Hogwerts after Aravon - St.Columba's College - up the mountain from Marlay Park. All the students wore gowns.... the prefects wore mortar boards for chapel...cloister cricket etc.etc. and as for the buildings.

    And now has ended up plonked right beside the motorway.

    I went to a 'rival' school ('82-'88), King's Hospital as it happens.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm



    Anybody recognise the location? A lobby card from the movie.

    maybe you should ask on the wicklow forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    CDfm wrote: »
    maybe you should ask on the wicklow forum.

    I know the location - it was just a tease to see if anybody else did. It's the Clock Tower in the centre of Enniskerry village. Anyway, have you started on the Irish movie thread yet - we're relying on you? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    I know the location - it was just a tease to see if anybody else did. It's the Clock Tower in the centre of Enniskerry village. Anyway, have you started on the Irish movie thread yet - we're relying on you? :)

    I actually know very little about Irish Movies - Siobhain McKenna never made any Cowboy or Action movies so we didnt see any growing up. Mr Singh my Hearts Delight is a painful childhood memory and has scarred me.

    Its something I have very little interest in.

    Though I can see something there.

    Top of Head - Moby Dick, Ryans Daughter, Barry Linden,Braveheart were made in Ireland.

    We would need a cut off date like pre-1980 or something.

    So we need a mixture of the mainstream and the obscure.

    Were there TV episodes made here.

    Then you have the Irish depicted in movies and TV - along with the US the Nazi's made a few Irish movies.Or would we limit it to movies made from irish locations.

    And , I dont know how true it is but when I was growing up I heard that porn actresses and porn movies were made in Waterford and I am not talking about Ulyssses. Nothing would surprise me about Waterford. :rolleyes:

    There is the makings of a good thread there.

    If someone were to start one I certainly would contribute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    And you can watch Johnny Nobody free on line

    http://www.ovguide.com/movies_tv/johnny_nobody.htm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    CDfm wrote: »
    And you can watch Johnny Nobody free on line

    http://www.ovguide.com/movies_tv/johnny_nobody.htm

    Well I never! I hope you've gone off to watch it now. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Well I never! I hope you've gone off to watch it now. :D

    I watched the trailer -action packed to be sure :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,577 ✭✭✭jonniebgood1


    CDfm wrote: »
    Introducing Lola Montez

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    I dont think she ever was queen but was a countess.

    What a girl- There was a piece on Lola yesterday on Newstalk, very interesting. She had quite a big impact on Bavaria, she was involved in controversy there that eventually helped end the Bavarian kingdoms independence. She was born in Grange, Co. Sligo. I visited neuschwanstein castle near Munich last year and she formed an important part in the history tour which detailed how the people of Bavaria turned against their Monarchy as a result of her scandalous behaviour!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Two great threads by Nolanger :)
    Nolanger wrote: »
    Is it true one of the British soldiers who fought against the 1916 rising went on to become a Hollywood movie star?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056161709
    Nolanger wrote: »
    Similar to the John Loder thread, I also heard that one of Michael Collins' men who fought the British in the 1920s escaped Ireland and became a Hollywood actor? Any truth in this?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056164188


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Ah the memories. Thinking of Aravon got me thinking of Headfort where I went.

    There was an old airstrip in a field adjoining the school and lord headfort had a hanger with three or four old ww1 biplanes (replicas presumably) that had been used in the filming of the film The Blue Max in the mid sixties. I think they did all the flying for the film in Ireland. It was a big film at the time.

    I was there in the early seventies, we used to sneak around and look in through the gaps in the hanger doors. They never flew as long as I was there and I'd imagine they were not airworthy either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    InTheTrees wrote: »

    There was an old airstrip in a field adjoining the school and lord headfort had a hanger with three or four old ww1 biplanes (replicas presumably) that had been used in the filming of the film The Blue Max in the mid sixties. I think they did all the flying for the film in Ireland. It was a big film at the time.




    They certainly did. And they used Air Corps pilots to fly the old crocks. (Cue the joke about the Irish Air Corps of the 1960s being more used to flying biplanes than the supersonic pilots of other countries' air forces.)

    In fact, if there are any other old rugby fans here who remember an Irish international from the 60s and 70s called Mick Hipwell, he claimed to have been one of the pilots in that movie.

    The revelation comes in one of the books on the Lions tour of New Zealand in 1971 on which he played.

    Small world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    They certainly did. And they used Air Corps pilots to fly the old crocks. (Cue the joke about the Irish Air Corps of the 1960s being more used to flying biplanes than the supersonic pilots of other countries' air forces.)

    In fact, if there are any other old rugby fans here who remember an Irish international from the 60s and 70s called Mick Hipwell, he claimed to have been one of the pilots in that movie.

    The revelation comes in one of the books on the Lions tour of New Zealand in 1971 on which he played.

    Small world.

    I never heard that Hipwell was involved in that film - nor is he listed in the credits.
    By coincidence I bought and watched that dvd a few months ago (one of a boxed set, Aces High and 633 Squadron were the other 2, cost a tenner).
    A few of the pilots used on the Blue Max were Air Corps, most were stunt pilots. It was filmed over Weston/Callary bog, the legendary Capt. Darby Kennedy of Weston was the stunt coordinator. The viaduct under which the two pilots flew is in Middleton, and only one pilot was prepared to do the stunt, so he did it with both planes, it took about a dozen takes, and with only 4 feet or so to spare on each side!
    Several of the planes used are now in a museum in New Zealand, see http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/projects/fokker-dvii/blue-max
    P.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    The viaduct featured in the Blue Max is outside Fermoy on the now closed Mallow/Waterford railway line not Midleton. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    I never heard that Hipwell was involved in that film - nor is he listed in the credits.

    I can't lay my hand on my copy of the account of the Lions tour but I remember the author (John Reason) describing a conversation with Hipwell on the tour in which he mentioned that one of the perks of being in the Air Corps was that he was occasionally "loaned out" to film makers to fly vintage aircraft in films shot in Ireland.

    Maybe he didn't mention Blue Max specifically and perhaps he wasn't in that one and I just assumed he was. I think I might actually have stared hard at the faces of one of the pilots last time it was shown on TV and convinced myself that it was Hipwell.

    But I think he definitely was in some films that were shot in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Does he perhaps appear in the cast as an extra - which is sometimes how these things are done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1



    Maybe he didn't mention Blue Max specifically ...........

    But I think he definitely was in some films that were shot in Ireland.

    Take your pick from Darling Lili (1970), Richtofen and Brown (1971), Zeppelin (1971) :)
    Rs
    P.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 highbury3


    Came across your reference to Ida .

    Ida was the sister of Cyril who was great friend of my parents and of whom I was very fond,and indeed grew up calling Uncle Cyril.
    I met Ida at least once when she visited our home along with Cyril and his wife Alice...late 1950s or early 60s.I remember being excited to meet a "famous actress" who my parents seemed to know.
    I recently came across a photograph of Alice and Cyril while going through my belongings prior to a move and one thing lead to another!
    Regards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Josef Locke (23 March 1917 – 15 October 1999) was the stage name of Joseph McLaughlin, an Irish tenor. He was successful in the United Kingdom and Ireland in the 1940s and 1950s.

    tac


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    highbury3 wrote: »
    Came across your reference to Ida .

    Ida was the sister of Cyril who was great friend of my parents and of whom I was very fond,and indeed grew up calling Uncle Cyril.
    I met Ida at least once when she visited our home along with Cyril and his wife Alice...late 1950s or early 60s.I remember being excited to meet a "famous actress" who my parents seemed to know.
    I recently came across a photograph of Alice and Cyril while going through my belongings prior to a move and one thing lead to another!
    Regards.

    thanks for the info H3. Cyril served in the RAF during WW2 and did quite well in a variety of business ventures.

    I have a BBC recording on CD of Ida from 1938.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    One of the leading producers and directors in the early years of Hollywood was the Dublin born Rex Ingram. In the 1920s he directed two enormously successful silent blockbusters, namely The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, starring Rudolf Valentino and an early version of Ben Hur.

    In the smaller film industry of the time he was a hugely influential figure and was once listed as one of the four most important people in the industry alongside such early luminaries as D W Griffith and Cecil B De Mille.

    As there are those who doubt the relevance of this thread to "History and Heritage" let me try and tie the two together more firmly. As I have said before, one of my favourite things about history is the number of ironies it throws up.

    The most ironic thing about Ingram was that it was not his family name. His Christian names were Reginald Ingram and he was the son of a Church of Ireland vicar. His brother was a soldier in the Leinster Regiment in the First World War and published his memoirs--Stand To, A Diary of the Trenches, widely regarded as a classic--under his true family name which brother Rex had seen fit to discard when he got to Hollywood.

    Perhaps he thought that Hitchcock was not a name that would amount to anything much in movies!!


    BUMP!!!

    How many years ago was this first posted?

    Today the Irish Times has a piece about him which says he is "totally forgotten now". Well, he has been dead for nearly 70 years, and all he did was make pictures.

    Who's going to remember Harvey Weinstein in 70 years time?

    Of course if they had just paid more attention to Boards.ie.....:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    Peggy Cummins who died last December is another. Both parents Irish, she was born in Wales supposedly because they were stuck there in a snowstorm. Her stepfather Harry Cummins has been described as a journalist and stockbroker and it is said she grew up in Killiney, Co Dublin – where? That link seems tenable as she was married by a Killiney-based Unitarian minister in London. She also reputedly dated JFK but fell foul of the 'system' and was pushed out. An early case of #MeToo ?? Anyone got more info on the Killiney/Dublin/Harry Cummins detail??


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    CDfm wrote: »
    His early career was that of an Irish Times cub reporter and he trained as an actor in the Abbey & the Gate.

    I share a birthday with him and he is Willfred Brambell who played Paul McCartneys Grandfather in A Hard Days Night .

    He was reputedly born or grew up in Kingstown, or as we call it now Dun Laoghaire.

    It is sad that his reputation has suffered since his death in 1985.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    The family lived in Rathmines in 1911
    and in the earlier 1901 there were Brambles visiting brewery relatives in Sandycove. By 1911 the Sandycove family had moved to Bray, Novara Avenue. (More suited for work in Guinesses, Bray - Harcourt St. line.) Both addresses nicely middle class.


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