Wonder Woman 1984

pixelburp · 18-12-2020 2:06pm

iguana wrote: »

It was also the first film about a female superhero that wasn't just completely awful.

Also true; we've come a long way since the "Supergirl" film of the 1980s, and would encourage many to watch that older film to appreciate just how far superhero films - and especially those with a female lead - have come.

Wonder Woman ain't the best superhero film by any stretch, but I think it did enough things well enough to forgive a tiny bit of hype. Its ending remains utter trash, but then that's a curse many if not most Superhero films suffer from. They can almost never stick the landing. It's the easiest point to notice the studio interference and wouldn't single out Wonder Woman when (say) most of the MCU have terrible last acts that devolve into CGI mush.

pinkypinky · 18-12-2020 3:37pm

Seeing it later tonight. Can't wait!

18-12-2020 8:27pm

glasso wrote: »

Well obviously you can't get 101% but the point that I was making was that both Wonder Woman and Black Panther were very much both over-rated as movies due to respective reasons of gender and race roles of hero protagonists.

Black Panther created one of the interesting parts of The Marvel world imho. Basically built a culture and the villain was probably the most sympathetic and interesting that the franchise has output imho. The first Wonder Woman felt a bit like the first Captain America but did have pretty spectacular sequences, weak final act though.

santana75 · 18-12-2020 9:21pm

silverharp wrote: »

Im getting a vibe of a long movie and thin on content

Yeah thats pretty much it. Definitely overstays its welcome by about 20 minutes. But as new films are so thin on the grounds these days its worth checking out, you could do worse for a night out at the movies.

pixelburp · 18-12-2020 9:43pm

Blockbusters seem required to be 2.5 hours minimum these days, I've no idea why. EndGame was positively bladder torturingly long. Not like it feeds into the argument over short attention spans. Perhaps it makes it easier to dominate a cinema's screens if the film runs longer (but then surely a shorter movie would mean more showings a day).

AMKC · 18-12-2020 9:50pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Blockbusters seem required to be 2.5 hours minimum these days, I've no idea why. EndGame was positively bladder torturingly long. Not like it feeds into the argument over short attention spans. Perhaps it makes it easier to dominate a cinema's screens if the film runs longer (but then surely a shorter movie would mean more showings a day).

Only right. I am not going to pay for a film that is 90 mins long but if its 150mins or longer I am happy to pay to see it as I know I am getting my moneys worth and good value.
If you can't hold you pee then that's your problem.

I always say the longer the film the better the film.

Honestly I get it very hard to pay to go see a film that's 90mins or less. That's just too short for a film.

AMKC · 18-12-2020 9:57pm

titan18 wrote: »

Just went to see it and thought it was ok. 6, or 7 at best our of 10. I thought some of the cgi was pretty poor, particularly the running scenes. Just looked very unnatural, more like a video game than a film. The non action scenes might have been the best part tbh.

Not at all the action scenes especially the one in Egypt was very well done. I would happily go watch the film a 2nd time just for that

Mr Crispy wrote: »

Nonsense.

What is you because it certainly is not this film. It's an 8 out of 10 or a 4 out of 5 film.

silverharp wrote: »

Im getting a vibe of a long movie and thin on content

Not at all. Tenet was far worse. That film just dragged on and by was it a mess. Wonder Woman 84 an the other hand is very good and time flys buy.

Mr Crispy · 18-12-2020 9:59pm

AMKC wrote: »

What is you because it certainly is not this film. It's an 8 out of 10 or a 4 out of 5 film.

Huh?

18-12-2020 10:18pm

AMKC wrote: »

Only right. I am not going to pay for a film that is 90 mins long but if its 150mins or longer I am happy to pay to see it as I know I am getting my moneys worth and good value.
If you can't hold you pee then that's your problem.

I always say the longer the film the better the film.

Honestly I get it very hard to pay to go see a film that's 90mins or less. That's just too short for a film.

Thing is, you are getting your money's worth if you get a well cut 90 minute film. Unnecessarily elongating a film adds noise much of the time. Ones that are coming to mind that are pretty short as films go. Phone Booth clocks in at 71 minutes but a great action film imho. A Quiet Place is about 90 minutes. A Nightmare Before Christmas is at 81. Plenty around but sadly the number are diminishing.

I fully appreciate when a director has something to say that needs extra time but there a lot of films that are over the 2 hour mark that are self indulgent. Film making is an art but tight cutting can be too. You can watch a longer Apocalypse Now for example but it's not more bang for your buck..

Sleeper12 · 18-12-2020 10:38pm

Well worth the price imo. Great movie for the family to watch on Christmas day /Stephens Day

branie2 · 18-12-2020 11:32pm

I really enjoyed it

silverharp · 19-12-2020 10:39am

santana75 wrote: »

Yeah thats pretty much it. Definitely overstays its welcome by about 20 minutes. But as new films are so thin on the grounds these days its worth checking out, you could do worse for a night out at the movies.

this review (first half no spoilers) TLDR summary is, its a mcdonald's meal , objectively not good but cant hate it and was fun, and its a kids movie so take some kids to it and you will enjoy it more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOyex-P_0fM

biggebruv · 19-12-2020 2:56pm

Not available on vod here till jan 13 once again Ire&UK get shafted and they wonder why people just turn to the illegal streaming sites and torrents actual paying customers always get the raw deal

Sleeper12 · 19-12-2020 3:36pm

biggebruv wrote:

Not available on vod here till jan 13 once again Ire&UK get shafted and they wonder why people just turn to the illegal streaming sites and torrents actual paying customers always get the raw deal

I'm watching it Christmas day on HBO MAX. Easily done if you use smart dns or vpn. 7 days free trial so you just pay for the movie itself. Then you have full HBO MAX free for the week

biggebruv · 19-12-2020 4:49pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I'm watching it Christmas day on HBO MAX. Easily done if you use smart dns or vpn. 7 days free trial so you just pay for the movie itself. Then you have full HBO MAX free for the week

Oh I know there stills ways around it but it’s just ridiculous in 2020 that we should even have to do that. The fact it’s easier to get an illegal stream of the movie is laughable and they wonder why people turn that way for movies and tv

The White Wolf · 19-12-2020 5:01pm

silverharp wrote: »

this review (first half no spoilers) TLDR summary is, its a mcdonald's meal , objectively not good but cant hate it and was fun, and its a kids movie so take some kids to it and you will enjoy it more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOyex-P_0fM

Mr H has been claiming for ages the film wasn't good so you can't exactly take him at face value when he says it's bad but entertaining or whatever the **** he's trying to spin.

B.A._Baracus · 19-12-2020 5:43pm

biggebruv wrote: »

Oh I know there stills ways around it but it’s just ridiculous in 2020 that we should even have to do that. The fact it’s easier to get an illegal stream of the movie is laughable and they wonder why people turn that way for movies and tv

What do you expect tho?

It's not like HBO max is over here in Ireland.

19-12-2020 6:24pm

Loved Gal Gadot. 2 and a half hours of her is not the worst way to spend an afternoon.

I thought the actual premise was dreadful stuff. I did like the Chris Pine bits, but it was almost cartoon like and sadly couldn't justify watching a second time. I'd watch WW one repeatedly.

If I was feeling generous 3/10.

Sleeper12 · 19-12-2020 9:43pm

biggebruv wrote:

Oh I know there stills ways around it but itâ€™s just ridiculous in 2020 that we should even have to do that. The fact itâ€™s easier to get an illegal stream of the movie is laughable and they wonder why people turn that way for movies and tv

I hear you. Im in my 50s so I remember waiting months between the US cinema release or even the VHS release & the Irish release.

I tried illegal streaming via kodi years ago and stuck with it only for a few months. Freezing, buffering, low quality etc.

ThePott · 20-12-2020 1:30am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I'm watching it Christmas day on HBO MAX. Easily done if you use smart dns or vpn. 7 days free trial so you just pay for the movie itself. Then you have full HBO MAX free for the week

HBO Max removed their free trial in anticipation of people doing just this

Sleeper12 · 20-12-2020 10:09am

ThePott wrote:

HBO Max removed their free trial in anticipation of people doing just this

I'm already a member so can't see the free trial at any time. One month is around 13 euro. Still worth it for the movie alone

ThePott · 20-12-2020 10:34am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I'm already a member so can't see the free trial at any time. One month is around 13 euro. Still worth it for the movie alone

Oh for sure, I'm a member as well. Well worth it in general imo. Especially if they manage to release their theatrical slate there.

alchemist33 · 20-12-2020 7:25pm

Very very slow to get moving, more like a rom-com at times. But the second half was very good and it was good to see a climax that wasn't a punchfest. Not as good as the first film but still pretty good. Kids really enjoyed it too.

techdiver · 20-12-2020 8:51pm

Very enjoyable. Great opening and as others have said it drags a bit in the middle.

Climax is very good. Loved the reuse of an unexpected track from BvS in the soundtrack for the climax scene there too. It fit very well with the theme.

My son enjoyed it too. Great to be able to go to the cinema.

HighLine · 21-12-2020 11:08am

A large steaming pile of s***e. It was actually comical so enjoyed it in that sense.

.E_C_K_S. · 22-12-2020 12:11am

Awful stuff.

silverharp · 22-12-2020 12:12pm

It seems to be doing half as well as the first movie in China and their cinemas are functioning normally

speedboatchase · 22-12-2020 5:53pm

silverharp wrote: »

It seems to be doing half as well as the first movie in China and their cinemas are functioning normally

Chinese audiences seem much more keen on their homegrown blockbusters at this point. And they may be actively turned off by US movies as a rule right now (eg. Monster Hunter).

silverharp · 22-12-2020 6:19pm

speedboatchase wrote: »

Chinese audiences seem much more keen on their homegrown blockbusters at this point. And they may be actively turned off by US movies as a rule right now (eg. Monster Hunter).

here is hoping

Phat Cat · 23-12-2020 12:12am

Just out from a screening, myself and my wife really enjoyed the first WW movie but we both thought this was just plain awful. The plot was paper thin and some scenes were even painful to watch

the British woman wishing that the Irish went back to where they came from

plus depicting

men as sexual predators

was cringeworthy. Overall I'd give it 2 out of 10, the start and the action in Egypt were the only decent scenes IMO.

23-12-2020 10:21am

Phat Cat wrote: »

... and some scenes were even painful to watch
the British woman wishing that the Irish went back to where they came from

That was safe compared to certain other minorities that may not have taken it so well...

innuendo141 · 23-12-2020 10:26am

Reminded me of the late 80's comic run she had. Loved it, really enjoyed the film.

Phat Cat · 23-12-2020 10:53am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That was safe compared to certain other minorities that may not have taken it so well...

Exactly, so why use it at all? It was such a WTF moment.

23-12-2020 12:27pm

Deleted User wrote: »

That was safe compared to certain other minorities that may not have taken it so well...

spit it out!

23-12-2020 12:28pm

silverharp wrote: »

here is hoping

yes hopefully China will boycott these things completely so Hollywood will stop making them

23-12-2020 1:11pm

glasso wrote: »

spit it out!

Amazonians ! There, I said it, happy now!?!

23-12-2020 1:24pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Amazonians ! There, I said it, happy now!?!

no doubt when the big load of lesbian (but bi-curious) Gal-Gadot-lookalike roides emerges from the jungle they will be furious upon seeing this film.

larchielads · 25-12-2020 12:56pm

When is this on hbo max?

ThePott · 25-12-2020 1:48pm

9am PT/12 pm ET which would be 5 o'clock this evening Irish time.

pixelburp · 25-12-2020 1:52pm

Other locations then, from around 7pm? :pac:

larchielads · 25-12-2020 1:55pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Other locations then, from around 7pm? :pac:

Thats what i really wanted to know:pac:

Sleeper12 · 25-12-2020 4:05pm

pixelburp wrote:

Other locations then, from around 7pm?

I could be wrong but I think it's exclusive to HBO for the next few days.

pixelburp · 25-12-2020 4:25pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I could be wrong but I think it's exclusive to HBO for the next few days.

Ahem. Those are not the kind of locations I'm talking of

MAULBROOK · 25-12-2020 4:55pm

torrent by 9pm then

B.A._Baracus · 25-12-2020 5:03pm

ThePott wrote: »

9am PT/12 pm ET which would be 5 o'clock this evening Irish time.

Cheers. I was wondering when I could erm, "stream" this today.

Yar har har.

ThePott · 25-12-2020 6:26pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Cheers. I was wondering when I could erm, "stream" this today.
Yar har har.

No worries, just checked and it's up on HBO Max now anyway.
In the meantime while you guys are waiting here's a tune to pass the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY

Sleeper12 · 25-12-2020 7:21pm

pixelburp wrote:

Ahem. Those are not the kind of locations I'm talking of

Sorry. Blonde moment

Agent Coulson · 25-12-2020 8:32pm

Well that was really disappointing.

kerplun k · 25-12-2020 9:25pm

Anyone know when this will be available on the Sky store?

kerplun k · 25-12-2020 9:32pm

Found it. January 13th. Jez, that’s a bit late for a location that cannot get HBO Max. Don’t see why they couldn’t release it simultaneously.

Wonder Woman 1984

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