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Priests and their obsession with Status and Wealth

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  • #102
    Mark Hamill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    nthclare wrote: »
    Take what you like and leave out the accusations of insecurity and digs, if you want to take the moral high ground you can sail as high and mighty as you please.

    Pathetically insecure, give me a break.
    We're all insecure in our own ways, you're observation could be right.
    And so what if I sound pathetically insecure,big swing of the Micky.
    I can stand back observe your response, take it in. Say to myself Mark Hamil helped me to see my insecurities. He took me down a peg or too.
    Fair enough my bad Mark helped me today to realise I'm pathetically insecure.

    I'm pathetically insecure, Mark is a good man.
    Mark can move on now, because Nthclare realised Nthclare is pathetically insecure.
    Mark Hamill's good deed for the day.

    We could have our own adult witty ladybird book.

    Mark and Nthclare go on to boards.ie

    We can sail off into the sunset now, being secure that there's been a lesson learned.

    Mark you're right and I'm wrong.

    Thanks Mark

    Well if you resort to waffle and sarcasm instead of answering posts, then yes it does make your posts seem very pathetic and insecure. You have thrown a lot of negative claims about oldrnwsr without any explanation or support. But I guess asking you to support your claims is just arrogant of me :rolleyes:.


  • #103
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Mark Hamill wrote: »
    Well if you resort to waffle and sarcasm instead of answering posts, then yes it does make your posts seem very pathetic and insecure. You have thrown a lot of negative claims about oldrnwsr without any explanation or support. But I guess asking you to support your claims is just arrogant of me :rolleyes:.

    Well sure that's it case closed, I appreciate your concern for other boards member's, if you're that worried about it it's good to talk to someone.

    No need to roll your eyes at your character defects sure I'm a walking contradiction myself , it's ok we all shoot ourselves in the foot now and again.

    I often sometimes roll my eyes in humility at myself when I get my flies caught in the tree's, it's like fck can't reach that high.

    Don't give yourself a hard time, I didn't expect you to roll your eyes at your own arrogance...

    But I identify with you.


  • #104
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Mod warning: As per the charter, please remember to keep your negative comments to the post, not the poster. Thanks for your attention.


  • #105
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »
    What was the thread about again? :) Something about whether the priests wear prada or something, or can afford to add pineapples to their pizza.

    The devil loves Prada they say.

    In my opinion the church has always been ostentatious, dare you question otherwise I'm in the past you're a marked man.

    My local priest supposedly drives a BMW 5 series, never at home to answer eBay and Amazon deliveries, always ends up in a neighbour's house, and he probably has a girlfriend or boyfriend too.

    At this stage anything I hear about the Catholic church wouldn't surprise me.
    Its charitable, greedy, lazy, over enthusiastic, lot's of scandal...

    I too once upon a time went on the crusade about the fact that the local priest should be like Russel Brand riding a donkey and living in a mud hut somewhere...


  • #106
    nigeldaniel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    When it comes down to it I would not say that priests, by the large, are in any way obsessed with status or wealth. Independent TD's on the other hand...

    Dan.



  • #107
    Mark Hamill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    nthclare wrote: »
    Well sure that's it case closed, I appreciate your concern for other boards member's, if you're that worried about it it's good to talk to someone.

    No need to roll your eyes at your character defects sure I'm a walking contradiction myself , it's ok we all shoot ourselves in the foot now and again.

    I often sometimes roll my eyes in humility at myself when I get my flies caught in the tree's, it's like fck can't reach that high.

    Don't give yourself a hard time, I didn't expect you to roll your eyes at your own arrogance...

    But I identify with you.

    I've given you every opportunity to explain why you think oldrnwisr's posts are obnoxious and missing the point. Why can't you just support your claims instead of throwing out insults (weakly hidden behind faux humility)?

    Why do think oldrnwsr thinks everyone should just take their posts as better as everyone else's?
    Where do you think they have misunderstood the opposition and where have they bailed out?


  • #108
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Mark Hamill wrote: »
    I've given you every opportunity to explain why you think oldrnwisr's posts are obnoxious and missing the point. Why can't you just support your claims instead of throwing out insults (weakly hidden behind faux humility)?

    Why do think oldrnwsr thinks everyone should just take their posts as better as everyone else's?
    Where do you think they have misunderstood the opposition and where have they bailed out?

    Why why why..
    Look I'm beginning to think you're a bit of a creep.
    Actually no there's something wrong here, and I suggest you ignore me because I don't feel like I have to answer your questions.

    You're like someone with narcissistic personality disorder, you keep on twisting everything.

    Go on shoo shoo go way, off with you.


  • #109
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    nthclare wrote: »
    Why why why..
    Look I'm beginning to think you're a bit of a creep.
    Actually no there's something wrong here, and I suggest you ignore me because I don't feel like I have to answer your questions.

    You're like someone with narcissistic personality disorder, you keep on twisting everything.

    Go on shoo shoo go way, off with you.

    Mod: Carded, you've already been warned to attack the post not the poster as laid out in the charter. Please limit your comments to what people have said rather than your opinion of their character. If you have issue with another posters style please address your reply to that poster first. Thanks for your attention.


  • #110
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    smacl wrote: »
    Mod: Carded, you've already been warned to attack the post not the poster as laid out in the charter. Please limit your comments to what people have said rather than your opinion of their character. If you have issue with another posters style please address your reply to that poster first. Thanks for your attention.

    They got what they were looking for I intentionally responded the way I did because I don't care about being carded.

    Sometimes in life you have to tell people go **** themselves, stand up and be counted or you'll have to be dealing with **** for the rest of your life....


  • #111
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    nthclare wrote: »
    They got what they were looking for I intentionally responded the way I did because I don't care about being carded.

    Sometimes in life you have to tell people go **** themselves, stand up and be counted or you'll have to be dealing with **** for the rest of your life....

    Mod: If you want to continue to post on this forum, you have to abide by the rules set out in the charter which includes no personal attacks. If you don't like what someone is saying, restrict your comments to what they're saying. If you can't do this, simply ignore them and don't respond.

    I'd also ask you to avoid making derogatory comments about another posters posting style addressed to the forum in general rather than to the poster themselves


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  • #112
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    smacl wrote: »
    Mod: If you want to continue to post on this forum, you have to abide by the rules set out in the charter which includes no personal attacks. If you don't like what someone is saying, restrict your comments to what they're saying. If you can't do this, simply ignore them and don't respond.

    I'd also ask you to avoid making derogatory comments about another posters posting style addressed to the forum in general rather than to the poster themselves

    Thanks point taken, I am prone to reaction rather than responding I'm only human after all.

    I'm sure Mark's a nice guy, I apologize for my comments about oldrnwiser I looked at his post's I got him mixed up with someone else.
    Happens sometimes, I didn't mean to offend Mark Hammil, maybe we crossed wires, or something within me was on the defensive rather than responsive.

    So Mark I'll leave it there and I will take on board with the charter of the forum...
    Hopefully we can move forward and let our indifferences behind us.

    I also wish to say I'm sorry for upsetting the flow, and my apologies to Robindch too, myself and Robindch hop off each other every few years and I know he puts in a lot of work over the years moderating this forum.

    So I wish you well, and I'm sorry.


  • #113
    oldrnwisr
    Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭oldrnwisr


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  • #114
    Ann G
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭Ann G


    nigeldaniel wrote: »
    When it comes down to it I would not say that priests, by the large, are in any way obsessed with status or wealth. Independent TD's on the other hand...

    From my experience, I disagree completely.


  • #115
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Ann G wrote: »
    From my experience, I disagree completely.


    Likewise. The "Spiritains", previously known as the "holy ghost fathers" being a case in point. Rather than address the real issues of child abuse they were perfectly happy to tar anyone who went "outside" the school in the blackest way.


  • #116
    Ann G
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭Ann G


    The Church's next scandal is money https://catholicherald.co.uk/the-churchs-next-scandal-is-money/


  • #117
    the dark phantom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭the dark phantom


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    I'm not sure I understand your question. Catholics (if I remember correctly, it has been some time) consider their faith the faith of Jesus and thus their church his church.

    Constantine's church. Christ never founded any church.


  • #118
    monara
    Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭monara


    Maybe a bit off the thread.

    Christ gave a commission to Peter and asked his followers to spread his teachings to the whole world. The word church is often misunderstood. All who believe in Christ, and spread his teachings, are the church and as we follow Christ, falteringly perhaps, we are the church initiated by Christ during his time on earth.
    But I agree that the scandals which have been a feature of the church from the beginning are a source of great shame to all true believers. Truly the catholic church in particular is a church of sinners which is probably why so many of us feel confortable in it.


  • #119
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    monara wrote: »
    Maybe a bit off the thread.

    Christ gave a commission to Peter and asked his followers to spread his teachings to the whole world. The word church is often misunderstood. All who believe in Christ, and spread his teachings, are the church and as we follow Christ, falteringly perhaps, we are the church initiated by Christ during his time on earth.
    But I agree that the scandals which have been a feature of the church from the beginning are a source of great shame to all true believers. Truly the catholic church in particular is a church of sinners which is probably why so many of us feel confortable in it.


    If only someone had come up with this idea about 5 hundred years ago.


  • #120
    monara
    Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭monara


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If only someone had come up with this idea about 5 hundred years ago.

    Actually someone came up with the idea over 2000 years ago but I'm sure you knew that. The idea have been repeated in every generation since. And I believe the idea has been and still is sincerely held by many.


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  • #121
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    monara wrote: »
    The word church is often misunderstood. All who believe in Christ, and spread his teachings, are the church and as we follow Christ, falteringly perhaps, we are the church initiated by Christ during his time on earth.

    Out of curiosity, would you include the likes of the Jehovah's Witnesses in the above statement? Reason I ask is that I know very many Christians don't consider any non-trinitarian Christians to be Christian, even though those people profess to follow and spread the word of Christ according as they believe it to be.

    Over the course of history there seems to have been a considerable amount of blood spilled by one group of Christians attacking another group of Christians over what seem rather minor differences to those of us who aren't in the least Christian.


  • #122
    monara
    Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭monara


    smacl wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, would you include the likes of the Jehovah's Witnesses in the above statement? Reason I ask is that I know very many Christians don't consider any non-trinitarian Christians to be Christian, even though those people profess to follow and spread the word of Christ according as they believe it to be.

    Over the course of history there seems to have been a considerable amount of blood spilled by one group of Christians attacking another group of Christians over what seem rather minor differences to those of us who aren't in the least Christian.

    Thanks for a good question. Those who believe in Christ and follow Him are His church. Christians attacking Christians, or even other human beings are, and always have been, an affront to Christ and what He taught. His key command is that we love one another, and that love is not to be confined to Christians only.


  • #123
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    monara wrote: »
    Thanks for a good question. Those who believe in Christ and follow Him are His church. Christians attacking Christians, or even other human beings are, and always have been, an affront to Christ and what He taught. His key command is that we love one another, and that love is not to be confined to Christians only.

    Thanks, very much what my understanding of being Christian ought to mean from the outside looking in. Unfortunately in my experience it is a fundamental principle that is squarely rejected all too often. The devil does indeed seem to come out in the detail ;)


  • #124
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,487 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    oldrnwisr wrote: »
    As biblical scholar Richard Pervo, an expert in Acts explains:

    What an unfortunate name, I hope the "acts" he is expert in are legal and consensual... ;)

    monara wrote: »
    Truly the catholic church in particular is a church of sinners which is probably why so many of us feel confortable in it.

    Many of the catholic clergy feel* very comfortable in sinning and many others in covering it up :mad:



    * Or, as we are told, felt - we shall see. Sadly I suspect we're far from Peak Kiddy Fiddler Priest Revelations yet and it's not all going to be stuff from decades ago.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #125
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,487 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Wrong thread, can't delete... 🙄

    Scrap the cap!



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