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Is it rude to recline?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,831 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    The problem is the ‘hard recliner’ usually the elderly or some fûckwit who instead of pressing the button and allowing gravity for a moment to gently take its course... presses it and uses their entire body weight to slam back into the seat usually a couple of times, thus sending most of the content on your tray, drink and all towards your lap... funnily enough, the people who designed the seat went to the thought and trouble of making it functional with the press of a button and the aid of gravity to achieve the recline position in a second so why you’d think you need to add 80 kgs of force to establish a natural recline position and a degree of comfort at the expense of my refreshments and the addition of expenses as in a dry cleaning bill is anyone’s guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭BobMc


    last time I flew long haul stewards insisted on no recline during meal service till trays got collected

    if your up for a good laugh follow passenger shaming on insta, some of the carryon is priceless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,035 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    BobMc wrote: »
    if your up for a good laugh follow passenger shaming on insta, some of the carryon is priceless

    Americans on planes...

    While you do hear of some people getting unlucky with the stag party from hell on Ryanair, I've encountered none of the **** I routinely encounter on transatlantic when flying to Europe despite the latter being a far more frequent event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    I never recline my seat on a plane. And I don’t like it when the person in front of me does it.

    That said, reclining is a legitimate feature of the seats, and passengers are entitled to use the feature provided. I don’t actually think someone should be expected to give a heads up that they’re going to do it. I really don’t like interacting with people on planes, and I’d be pissed off of someone made me take my headphones off just so they could tell me that they were going to tilt their seat back.

    I do remember on a horrible Bus Eireann bus years ago, some sham in front of me reclined his seat right into my knees. I kicked the seat back upright without saying a word to him. He didn’t try it again. That’s a perfectly acceptable thing to do on a bus, though. I wouldn’t do that on a plane.

    you'd be pissed off by some basic manners?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    anacc wrote: »
    Never once have I seen “stuff go flying” because someone in front reclined. The tray table doesn’t move when someone reclines and you’d want to be some clown to have your bottle or glass jammed up against the seat in front anyway. The way some people talk about it you’d think someone has turned around and smacked a glass out of your hand and gave a clatter across the face.

    that isn't true


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I guess it all depends on the situation and there are many factors that can come into play.


    The only true rule is as follows.


    Don't recline before the plane has even closed its doors. Don't be that jackas$


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,557 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I really don’t like interacting with people on planes, and I’d be pissed off of someone made me take my headphones off just so they could tell me that they were going to tilt their seat back.

    I do remember on a horrible Bus Eireann bus years ago, some sham in front of me reclined his seat right into my knees. I kicked the seat back upright without saying a word to him. He didn’t try it again. That’s a perfectly acceptable thing to do on a bus, though. I wouldn’t do that on a plane.

    Im always amused by these threads. People make up a set of rules, known only to themselves and refuse to talk to anyone like an adult. Then get snippy when other people don’t follow the rules they invented.

    Imagine kicking someone’s seat sooner than use your words like a grown up. Some people are very strange creatures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Im always amused by these threads. People make up a set of rules, known only to themselves and refuse to talk to anyone like an adult. Then get snippy when other people don’t follow the rules they invented.

    Imagine kicking someone’s seat sooner than use your words like a grown up. Some people are very strange creatures.

    perfectly acceptable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Does my seat recline? If yes then I'll recline it. I'm less inclined to do it on short haul because I'm on el cheapo airlines and the 1 cm recline I get isn't worth it. Long haul I'm reclining asap barring food service.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    I remember going on a plane with my little boy, his first time. He was only 5.
    He was tapping the seat in front of him with his foot (not kicking it like a brat, more of a nervous twitch).
    A woman turned around and aggressively told him to stop.
    I could understand her annoyance but a little gentle 'hey, little guy will you stop your tapping?' would have been a better approach.
    We were only going to London, so she wasn't stressed I should think.
    He was really wounded and fell silent for the rest of the flight :(
    So the tough approach worked in the absence of you not getting him to behave


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    wench wrote: »
    The lack of reclining is one of the best features of Ryanair.

    Reclineair..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,557 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    lawred2 wrote: »
    perfectly acceptable

    This is it. What would lead someone to believe that kicking the chair without a word is acceptable on a bus but bang out of order on flight? And not even talking to the person to sort it out. Some weird set of rules. Fascinating


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,708 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I remember going on a plane with my little boy, his first time. He was only 5.
    He was tapping the seat in front of him with his foot (not kicking it like a brat, more of a nervous twitch).
    A woman turned around and aggressively told him to stop.
    I could understand her annoyance but a little gentle 'hey, little guy will you stop your tapping?' would have been a better approach.
    We were only going to London, so she wasn't stressed I should think.
    He was really wounded and fell silent for the rest of the flight :(

    Off topic, you never know how someone else's day is going. She could have been flying to a funeral. She might have issues of her own, you never know.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    I don't recline as a rule but the last flight I was on the seat was broken so wouldn't click into place which was worse as any time I moved the seat would spring forward so I had to try and not move too much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Feisar wrote: »
    Off topic, you never know how someone else's day is going. She could have been flying to a funeral. She might have issues of her own, you never know.

    Everyone has issues. Do you go around excusing people's bad behavior on the premise that maybe they are having a bad day?

    I've traveled to funerals. I haven't shouted at anyone while on the way.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭gwalk


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Everyone has issues. Do you go around excusing people's bad behavior on the premise that maybe they are having a bad day?

    I've traveled to funerals. I haven't shouted at anyone while on the way.

    was anyone's mibehaving sprog kicking at the back of your seat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭anacc


    lawred2 wrote: »
    that isn't true

    Yes it is true. Can you imagine the lawsuits airlines would be fighting every day if people were getting scalded by hot teas and coffees because a tray table moved due to a seat reclining?

    The idea of a tray table moving with a reclining seat is just ridiculous and all the people who claim their drinks went flying as someone reclined their seat are just engaging in hyperbole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    anacc wrote: »
    Yes it is true. Can you imagine the lawsuits airlines would be fighting every day if people were getting scalded by hot teas and coffees because a tray table moved due to a seat reclining?

    The idea of a tray table moving with a reclining seat is just ridiculous and all the people who claim their drinks went flying as someone reclined their seat are just engaging in hyperbole.

    I've seen it move/shake/judder when someone reclines - I'm not imagining things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    gwalk wrote: »
    was anyone's mibehaving sprog kicking at the back of your seat?

    ah here - that's a rather distasteful way to speak of someone's child


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭gwalk


    lawred2 wrote: »
    ah here - that's a rather distasteful way to speak of someone's child

    if the word "sprog" offends you please read as child instead


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,271 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    reclining on short haul should be a hanging offence, luckily i normally only go long haul for work and its business class so can recline to my hears content and no bother anyone :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭anacc


    lawred2 wrote: »
    I've seen it move/shake/judder when someone reclines - I'm not imagining things.

    A little judder when someone slams their seat back. That’s not moving with the seat. It’s not enough to send drinks flying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    anacc wrote: »
    A little judder when someone slams their seat back. That’s not moving with the seat. It’s not enough to send drinks flying.

    so yeah it moves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭anacc


    lawred2 wrote: »
    so yeah it moves

    Not in the way some people are claiming and certainly not enough to cause drinks to spill over people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,035 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Depends how forcefully the person reclines. If the person is front is considerate it's not a problem. If they recline like an asshole, then it can knock drinks and stuff over.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Emmersonn


    I remember going on a plane with my little boy, his first time. He was only 5.
    He was tapping the seat in front of him with his foot (not kicking it like a brat, more of a nervous twitch).
    A woman turned around and aggressively told him to stop.
    I could understand her annoyance but a little gentle 'hey, little guy will you stop your tapping?' would have been a better approach.
    We were only going to London, so she wasn't stressed I should think.
    He was really wounded and fell silent for the rest of the flight :(
    The required result so. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    There was a thread on this before and it got very heated. A lot of people out there who are passionately anti-recline. As a reasonably tall person who takes about 4 transatlantic flights a year, as long as you follow the rules, I have no problem with it and do it to get a few hours sleep. Do it after take-off if you like, but back up for the meal until a point where all trays have been cleared.

    I have many bad things to say about Aer Lingus, but have never seen an issue with drinks going flying no matter how aggressively the person in front has thrown back their seat


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Alpha_zero


    Western Civilisation is doomed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    lawred2 wrote: »
    ah here - that's a rather distasteful way to speak of someone's child
    Yes Little c**t would be more appropriate especially where Mammy thinks he can do no wrong and other people should put up with his behaviour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Edgware wrote: »
    Yes Little c**t would be more appropriate especially where Mammy thinks he can do no wrong and other people should put up with his behaviour

    So edgy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭anacc


    It’s happened me more than once that kids have been kicking the back of the seat but being a parent myself I know it’s not the kid being malicious, rather they are unaware. More often than not the parent will notice and tell the kid to stop and even apologise to me while completely embarrassed. I tell them not to worry, I have kids myself so I know how how it is. The odd time the parent doesn’t realize and after a while I’ll turn around to the parent and discreetly, and a little bit sheepishly, ask if they could stop the kid kicking. Inevitably they will apologize and be embarrassed which leads to the same “no worries, I have kids and know what it’s like”.

    No hassle, no aggro, especially no giving grief to kids like a pr!ck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    it's rude to fly on account of the planet-murdering aspect of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,557 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    anacc wrote: »
    It’s happened me more than once that kids have been kicking the back of the seat but being a parent myself I know it’s not the kid being malicious, rather they are unaware. More often than not the parent will notice and tell the kid to stop and even apologise to me while completely embarrassed. I tell them not to worry, I have kids myself so I know how how it is. The odd time the parent doesn’t realize and after a while I’ll turn around to the parent and discreetly, and a little bit sheepishly, ask if they could stop the kid kicking. Inevitably they will apologize and be embarrassed which leads to the same “no worries, I have kids and know what it’s like”.

    No hassle, no aggro, especially no giving grief to kids like a pr!ck.

    Dealt with like an adult, using grown up words to get what you want, prevent aggro and allow everyone to deal with the situation with a smile.

    It’s amazing the number of people who would prefer to get aggressive or silently seethe, than simply handle the situation proactively.


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