Serial offender apologizes for robbery and walks free!

wordofwarning wrote: »

So if your son or daughter made a wrong choice and ended up an addict. You would have zero issue with the state locking them up for life making bra's and knickers for a few cents an hour. You have zero issue with the state locking up your child for life to 'productive'?

Or would you rather your child went to rehab and turned their life around? A productive individual in society, other than modern slave labour...

Sure why stop at drug addicts? Or serious offenders? Why not put people who speak out about the in Government in work camps too? Make them all productive :rolleyes:

Look at the US, where handing out massive sentences does not reduce crime. It does not reduce the incentive to commit crime. Most criminal offence

Norway actually tries to change the person and their levels of reoffending is tiny relative to hard and mean US style prisons.

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/18/prison-could-be-productive

this guy has 160 convictions , if he was caught for one fifth of the crimes he committed id be surprised thats hundreds of victims of his crimes affected by this guys greedy selfish life choices .
at what point would you start thinking about protecting people from him rather than babying some one who only takes from people .
he is a parasite and served no purpose in the world except to satisfy himself

lets look at america ten if you like ,

do you think the victims of his many many crimes would have been victims there ?
no they would have been safe from him because he would be locked away.

you object to criminals contributing to their own upkeep ? you feel tax payers should be responsible for him from cradle to grave ?

and yes if i had kids who were like him jail would be the safer place for both them and the victims of their crimes

norway isnt the best example you could have trotted out ,
they are gong to have to release andres breivik after 21 years

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/20/anders-behring-breiviks-human-rights-violated-in-prison-norway-court-rules

wordofwarning wrote: »

Wow it sounds like you are not describing someone who is not rational. Kinda like an addict maybe?

I would consider seeing how he does in rehab. Because jail will not achieve anything. You can't lock someone up for life for petty drug crimes. He will have to leave eventually. He will leave prison as an addict likely, so the circle starts again. But he was away from society which is your justification. But that is not the purpose of prison. It is supposed to be rehabilitation




Do you the US has one of the highest crime rates of the developed world? With that answer, I guess not.



Look up the for-profit prison system and tell me if you think it the right path to follow. Giving petty crimes massive sentences to ensure there is someone in prison to make sure cheap clothing and white goods can be made

Or the alternative is actually rehab the person and make them a contributing individual in society. Did that occur to you?



You would have no issue with your daughter being a junkie in prison for 30 years, making bra's for a few cents an hour and never achieving anything with their life because you refuse to criminals can be reformed. Wow, I am glad I don't have you as a parent



You like me to pull up a few thousands articles on how heavy sentencing in America has done little to reduce crime.

Norway actually reforms criminals. I know that is something you struggle to understand can be done...

Addicts should be responsible for their actions sme as every one else , this poor addicts BS is very weak .

" Kearney's previous convictions include assault, animal cruelty, robbery, theft, burglary, criminal damage and public order offences."

" 20-year-old Gary Kearney with an address at Conyngham Road in Crumlin pleaded guilty to cruelly torturing or terrifying an animal."

which crime are you saying is petty drug crime ? he is just a scumbag using addiction as a poor me ploy

novel idea why not confine him in a place where he cant get drugs ?

yes i still think that inmates should be made to contribute to the cost of their detention . its a fairly simple and logical idea really .

the fact is if this guy had these convictions in america then he would not be free to victimise other innocent people in that scene the american system is much better
160 convictions remmber 160 do you understand that ? he didnt make a mistake or a few errors in judgment , he is a criminal who chose to be a criminal , he isnt stealing for food for his kids or to put a roof over thier head the state already does that , he is a criminal and the rest of us should not have to e at risk from him.

Norway are really rehabilitating the hell out andres isnt it ?


"A large proportion of the crime that is carried out in Norway is committed by criminals from overseas.[13] 34 percent of the Norwegian prison population are foreigners.[14] In his autobiography Undesirables, British criminal Colin Blaney has claimed that gangs of English thieves target the nation on account of the perception that its prisons are relatively comfortable compared to those of other countries.[15] Studies also indicate that this is one of the reasons that criminals from other parts of the world commit crime in Norway."
should probably stop using norway as some sort of penal utopia . it doesn't match the facts