neignbour problem and scrap vehicle in garden??

TuringBot47 · 17-07-2019 9:25am

I still think buying the neighbours a car cover/tarpaulin benefits ye both and solves the issue.

https://www.halfords.ie/motoring/car-accessories/car-covers-tarpaulins

Fann Linn · 17-07-2019 1:07pm

PsychoPete wrote: »

Of course it does because its their property

Nope. 1996 Waste Mgt Act plus the other regs and amendments prohibit people piling scrap/elvs/ waste on their property unless of course they're licensed/permitted.

Graces7 · 17-07-2019 1:46pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

Nope. 1996 Waste Mgt Act plus the other regs and amendments prohibit people piling scrap/elvs/ waste on their property unless of course they're licensed/permitted.

exactly so

DoctorEdgeWild · 17-07-2019 1:59pm

One person's classification as scrap is another person's storage/future project.

Just because it has no value to one, doesn't mean it doesn't have value to another.

Fian · 17-07-2019 2:17pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

The OP has a number of options open to him which he can explore.

Waste Mgt (End of life vehicle) Regulations 2014 or Section 71 1996 Waste Mgt Act as amended.

The op should have a quick read of the above and see which one applies in his case.
Follow up with call to local CoCo and if that fails follow up with call to EPA. There is a complaint form on the EPA website.
No need for eyesores in housing estates in this day and age regardless of whose properties they are on.

Also :

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1990/act/14/section/11/enacted/en/html#sec11

In this section “derelict site” means any land (in this section referred to as “the land in question”) which detracts, or is likely to detract, to a material degree from the amenity, character or appearance of land in the neighbourhood of the land in question because of—

(a) the existence on the land in question of structures which are in a ruinous, derelict or dangerous condition, or

(b) the neglected, unsightly or objectionable condition of the land or any structures on the land in question, or

(c) the presence, deposit or collection on the land in question of any litter, rubbish, debris or waste, except where the presence, deposit or collection of such litter, rubbish, debris or waste results from the exercise of a right conferred by statute or by common law.

An Bradán Feasa · 17-07-2019 2:20pm

Sell your house to the council. They won't care what's next door to you. Plus you won't have to pay estate agent fees as there'll be no need to use their services.

Strumms · 17-07-2019 2:43pm

Look if you going to keep an old delapidated wreck of a car on the front of your property its not in keeping with the tone of the area or considerate to your neighbours... taupaulin ok i would have no issues there but to make the place look like a junk yard if not neighbourly or the right thing... because you can doesnt mean you should.

Fann Linn · 17-07-2019 4:30pm

DoctorEdgeWild wrote: »

One person's classification as scrap is another person's storage/future project.

Just because it has no value to one, doesn't mean it doesn't have value to another.

I won't argue this anymore. There is legislation out there which the OP can avail of free of charge, he can ring his LA Env Enforcement Section and they will decide what is or isn't scrap or waste.

17-07-2019 4:41pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

I won't argue this anymore. There is legislation out there which the OP can avail of free of charge, he can ring his LA Env Enforcement Section and they will decide what is or isn't scrap or waste.

Thanks for the opinions/information, that other kind of argument is silly IMO, ie one mans scrap is another mans treasure, I believe isnt the meaning they are saying or think themselves.
Im not a person to throw out useful stuff, this is more like when you get some hoarder who keeps old magazines they will never read or no different to someone who keeps a selection of even useful/viable vintage vehicles that they are just letting rot and will never do anything with them, it doesnt mean they have a right to impose it on everyone, this vehicle isnt even a viable prospect for that and a housing estate isnt a suitable location either. I like older vehicles, but anything that survives to become classic isnt usually left out to rot, there is clearly no intention here form the owner to regard it as that.

freshpopcorn · 17-07-2019 5:46pm

One thing I would say OP is if the neighbors clock your trying to sell the house/etc and you cause them hassle with the car. They may act up more so if there was potential buyers around.

the_pen_turner · 17-07-2019 8:04pm

Graham wrote: »

The world would be a better place if people showed consideration to their neighbours and community.

that applies to the OP just as much as the neighbour

Graham · 17-07-2019 8:12pm

I don't think it's particularly reasonable to expect good neighbourliness to stretch to ignoring a scrapyard in an neighbouring house.

the_pen_turner · 17-07-2019 8:29pm

Graham wrote: »

I don't think it's particularly reasonable to expect good neighbourliness to stretch to ignoring a scrapyard in an neighbouring house.

one van doesnt make a scrap yard

Graham · 17-07-2019 8:35pm

Yeah, I'm really not going to get into a debate with you about how much scrap it's appropriate/reasonable to keep in a front garden.

whisky_galore · 17-07-2019 9:43pm

lulu1 wrote: »

I don't think so
Put it like this If you were going buy a house and you see two identical houses and both the same price on an estate one with a well kept garden and the other garden full of junk which would you pick.

I know which I would go for

Tbh price and condition of what I'm interested in is all I'd consider. As long as neighbours aren't in my face and mind their own beeswax I couldn't care less.

pwurple · 17-07-2019 11:24pm

I was wondering how the deck you know what is parked in his driveway... I haven’t a notion what is next doors garden. Nature to the rescue!

Plant a tall hedge, and some flowering trees. Draw the eye to something beautiful instead, within your own control. .

You will also give yourself privacy and screen whatever happens next door or out on the road.

the_pen_turner · 17-07-2019 11:29pm

Graham wrote: »

Yeah, I'm really not going to get into a debate with you about how much scrap it's appropriate/reasonable to keep in a front garden.

i wouldnt like a scruffy neighbourhood either but the owner of the van is entitled to have it there.

just because it doesnt make financial sense to do it up doesnt mean that that is not the plan. there could be a lot of sentimental reasons behind it.
i know a guy that is doing up his late fathers lorry. its costing a fortune and he could buy a fairly good one like it for less but its more about the memories and journey to fixing it that he loves.

Graham · 17-07-2019 11:47pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

there could be a lot of sentimental reasons behind it.

You're probably right, I hadn't considered that at all.

A sentimental scrap vehicle would be the most obvious conclusion.

the_pen_turner · 17-07-2019 11:52pm

Graham wrote: »

You're probably right, I hadn't considered that at all.

A sentimental scrap vehicle would be the most obvious conclusion.

yes or dirty or lazy fecker. the point is the we dont know his reasons for keeping his own posesions

bobbyss · 18-07-2019 12:13am

Do you belong to a Residents Association? Get them on board? Nothing worse than your situation. Well there is actually. I know of a house which operates a car repair service from its driveway. Cars everyday piled up.
Bonnets open. Fellas hanging around.

Graces7 · 18-07-2019 6:19am

Hoping the Op takes some of the practical advice here?

MacDanger · 18-07-2019 11:37am

TBH, I'd say you're wasting your time with the council unless there's something hazardous leaking from the vehicle.

IMO, your best bet is to try and mend your relationship with your neighbours; you may not like having to do that and you don't need to like them but I don't see you resolving this without charming them into removing it

Graces7 · 18-07-2019 12:07pm

MacDanger wrote: »

TBH, I'd say you're wasting your time with the council unless there's something hazardous leaking from the vehicle.

IMO, your best bet is to try and mend your relationship with your neighbours; you may not like having to do that and you don't need to like them but I don't see you resolving this without charming them into removing it

worked for us a few times and no harm trying ...

31-07-2019 12:19pm

red petal wrote: »

You put a bee in his bonnet by asking him to stop parking in front of your garden. By the sounds of it, he's pretty happy that his scrap annoys you and has no intentions of getting rid of it to please you.

It's unfortunate but it seems he possibly thinks you are the uneighborly one.

Just re reading the thread as I had some new information, I realised your reply said, I put a bee in his bonnet because I asked him not to park in front of my garden, I said in my post , but just to correct your wording, I asked him not to park in front of my driveway, they initially were either completely blocking it or partially where it was not possible or making it difficult to get in and out, eventually they'd park opposite us and right up to the dividing line between our driveways.
Turns out the person isnt the owner after all, which is unusual as they were at the viewing, Im thinking there is something else going on now, Id happily not bother reporting or highlighting it, if they removed the van, tidied the lawn and stop parking like as they do.
Ive no intention of leaving if they can be dealt with, as owners that would have been problematic, as tenants it is a lot different, they could be dealt with and potentially moved if they failed to comply with some fairly simple and reasonable requests.

neignbour problem and scrap vehicle in garden??

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