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  • 25-08-2019 6:27pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭


    What company’s are people using for farm insurance.I am using fbd but find there prices are gone up a lot


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Murang wrote: »
    What company’s are people using for farm insurance.I am using fbd but find there prices are gone up a lot

    Axa were a good bit cheaper for me last year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭older by the day


    I moved from fbd too. Mc Carthys insurance found a good deal. Not sure who with. A broker will find you a few options and you can pick what you like.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Murang wrote: »
    What company’s are people using for farm insurance.I am using fbd but find there prices are gone up a lot

    Dumped them a few years ago went with Zurich half the price of FBD. There was also a discount for being a Dairygold supplier.


  • Registered Users Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    Any good suggestions for just tractor insurance?


  • Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭Track9


    Sugarbowl wrote: »
    Any good suggestions for just tractor insurance?

    Ytu Aviva Ins.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    Only thing I find with FBD you have a separate policy for each item so if you claim only that item goes up on renewal. Anytime I got a quote off anyone else they were lumping everything in together so your policy jumps up massively if you claim. That's why the rest are able to quote cheaper. I never have a problem getting FBD down in price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gerryirl


    I have cattle insured for theft as far as I know FBD are the only crowd that will do it. but yes they are not cheap at all. I will shop around better next year


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,196 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I left FBD about 8-10 years ago and was with Aviva until 2018. Zurich came in a 66% of the Aviva quote last year. Last time I checked FBD they were 15% dearer than Aviva

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,064 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Mulumpy wrote: »
    Only thing I find with FBD you have a separate policy for each item so if you claim only that item goes up on renewal. Anytime I got a quote off anyone else they were lumping everything in together so your policy jumps up massively if you claim. That's why the rest are able to quote cheaper. I never have a problem getting FBD down in price.

    FBD quotes are very inconsistent, farmers with better records than mine are getting high quotes and mine has moved very little, I would compare quotes every 3 or four years and am still with FBD.
    We have a lamb group discount and without that I'd be changing


  • Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    wrangler wrote: »
    FBD quotes are very inconsistent, farmers with better records than mine are getting high quotes and mine has moved very little, I would compare quotes every 3 or four years and am still with FBD.
    We have a lamb group discount and without that I'd be changing

    They are all inconsistent. I shop around every year. FBD will always quote higher but will always match the rest when pushed. Every company is good to give cheap quote the first year and then hike them on renewal


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,196 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Mulumpy wrote: »
    They are all inconsistent. I shop around every year. FBD will always quote higher but will always match the rest when pushed. Every company is good to give cheap quote the first year and then hike them on renewal

    So you just keep changing. I never allow companies to match another quote

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    So you just keep changing. I never allow companies to match another quote

    But why would you change then. If price is the same it's down to the small print. Companies offering a lower price are often charging a higher excess and have a terrible after service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,217 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Was always with FBD up to this year. Changed to AXA. Approx 33% less


  • Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Was always with FBD up to this year. Changed to AXA. Approx 33% less

    Same here. Have been with FBD for years but got a quote from Axa this year and it was a big saving so went with them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    Parishlad wrote: »
    Same here. Have been with FBD for years but got a quote from Axa this year and it was a big saving so went with them.

    I've been quoted 40% lower than FBD but as I've said before they always match the lower price and with a lower excess and far better customer service so always check the t&c's


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,196 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Mulumpy wrote: »
    But why would you change then. If price is the same it's down to the small print. Companies offering a lower price are often charging a higher excess and have a terrible after service.

    Any of the policies I saw there was difference both ways. For instance employer liability for family members found it hard to get with FBD. Aviva and Zurich were a lot easier to deal with. Excess of 1-200 euro extra is immaterial.
    If you allow companies to match quotes there is no incentive for them to price right first day. Another issue if you are allowing your old insurance companies to match prices after going back 2-3 times to other reps they will no longer put the effort into your next quote.

    TBH you seem to be looking for an excuse to stay with FBD

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    Any of the policies I saw there was difference both ways. For instance employer liability for family members found it hard to get with FBD. Aviva and Zurich were a lot easier to deal with. Excess of 1-200 euro extra is immaterial.
    If you allow companies to match quotes there is no incentive for them to price right first day. Another issue if you are allowing your old insurance companies to match prices after going back 2-3 times to other reps they will no longer put the effort into your next quote.

    TBH you seem to be looking for an excuse to stay with FBD

    Not looking for excuses at all. I've left FBD before but had to leave because they hiked up price the following year and wouldn't budge when questioned why. FBD suits me my price changes very little year on year. Every policy is different. My only original point is to know what your insured for and what will happen if you claim.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    zurich through a broker here for the last 7 years or so ,


    was over 40 years with fbd with very little claims , and they hiked the policy

    when my kids started driving they quoted telephone numbers , were more interested in high risk bmw owners in the big smoke and we all know that venture turned out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Mulumpy wrote: »
    But why would you change then. If price is the same it's down to the small print. Companies offering a lower price are often charging a higher excess and have a terrible after service.

    That was my experience with FBD. I had the rep out to do a proper quote a few months before and had a claim and FBD were absolutely horrific to deal with. I wouldn't go back to them now even if they gave it to me for free:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    eventually persuaded my neighbour to shop around for insurance. long time fbd customer who thought getting his 100€ off renewal was best he could do


    Axa €800 cheaper and I've gone through the schedule thoroughly

    Like for like with actually better cover from axa in some areas,


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  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Murang


    Just to update how I got on ended up staying with fbd.They droped there price from a 1000 to 690 once they had a bit of competition


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,217 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Murang wrote: »
    Just to update how I got on ended up staying with fbd.They droped there price from a 1000 to 690 once they had a bit of competition

    I would have told them to shove it. They were screwing you over €300.
    Imagine what they are doing g to all the old people who don't haggle with them...or have direct debits with them
    B***ards


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Murang


    Robson99 wrote: »
    I would have told them to shove it. They were screwing you over €300.
    Imagine what they are doing g to all the old people who don't haggle with them...or have direct debits with them
    B***ards

    I was going to tell them to shove it where the sun don’t shine but if it’s to your advantage you might as well take it .I would advise everyone to shop around they were not interested in talking to me about dropping the price until I had a cheaper quote


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Murang wrote: »
    I was going to tell them to shove it where the sun don’t shine but if it’s to your advantage you might as well take it .I would advise everyone to shop around they were not interested in talking to me about dropping the price until I had a cheaper quote

    Actually if you left them for a year, you would get a way lower quote following year as a new customer.

    Originally this crowd like the co ops was established was established to cater for the farming community but now seem to screw as much as possible from them and squander it elsewhere.

    Even their staff are tutored to pass out utter nonsense to customers which unfortunately a lot of older people still believe..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    I can't understand why people go back to the original company to ask them to match the lower quote.

    Surely it's worth supporting the company that gives you the original lowest quote?


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,137 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I can't understand why people go back to the original company to ask them to match the lower quote.

    Surely it's worth supporting the company that gives you the original lowest quote?

    Well I lied last year and told fbd I had a lower quote, I hadn't time to price around and they reduced my premium


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Well I lied last year and told fbd I had a lower quote, I hadn't time to price around and they reduced my premium

    Look, that's fine. You got a lower quote and they were still making a good nargin from your business.

    I wonder why people stay rewarding the company gouging, I suppose, them in the first place?

    One thing I learned very dearly is that you aren't covered for what you think you're covered on, even if you're told you are. I have no hesitation anymore in changing company for a lower quote.


  • Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    All insurance companies have haggle room of 15% More if your a large customer. They are all the same. Most people dont change because of fear of not having the same cover. I always get FBD to match other companies because I'm happy with my policies and every company plays the same game


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Mulumpy wrote: »
    All insurance companies have haggle room of 15% More if your a large customer. They are all the same. Most people dont change because of fear of not having the same cover. I always get FBD to match other companies because I'm happy with my policies and every company plays the same game


    Di you get one the free holidays from them ? , as you seem hell bent of defending them inspite of they ripping off the people that supported them for decades.

    There are lots of instances where FBD cover is inferior and don't deny it. If you do then you havn't done much research with other companies.

    Ther were 40% over , when I left them. (that was after almost 45 years with very little claims)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,196 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Well I lied last year and told fbd I had a lower quote, I hadn't time to price around and they reduced my premium

    Who has not if you have no time to price arounf whether it is Car, House or Farm insurance. I got a lower quote thsi year as well when short of time to organisze quotes. Just told them that I had a quote 50 euro lower and they bettered it by 10 euro . But generally I price around and the lowest get the business

    Slava Ukrainii



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