Aldi Being built in Tramore

RobitTV · 08-02-2010 6:45pm #1

Aldi has been granted planning permission for a discount food store in Tramore Co Waterford.

The 1555 square meter store will be located at Crobally Upper, Tramore.

Waterford County Council have granted the German retailer conditional permission for the development consisting of the demolition of an existing dwelling and the construction of a single-storey split-roof discount foodstore plus the provision of 107 car parking spaces.

Aldi has been looking to locate in Tramore for a number of years

Sully · 08-02-2010 7:06pm

Moving to the Waterford County forum.

Topic Moved

Psychedelic · 08-02-2010 8:22pm

Handy for all the people living in that area to have a supermarket (including a good selection of bargain priced booze :pac:) within walking distance.

A few jobs building it and a few jobs running it when open, very good news for the town.

rasper · 08-02-2010 8:50pm

Good to hear , keeps jobs and money in the town making the town more self suffcient to boot. I prefer ALDI to LIDL too as they seem to have a fair mix of Irish alongside with the continentals.
I hope it starts straight with no more delays

rasper · 08-02-2010 9:15pm

Just had a quick browse through the planning application online

http://eplan.waterfordcoco.ie/ePlan41/FileRefDetails.aspx?file_number=09482&LASiteID=0

Funny to read Blaise Hannigan and Peter Burns outlining the a carbon copy of each others submissions , Blaise blantantly stating its a bad location because it will take customers from Riverside stores, any wonder this country is a mess

Psychedelic · 09-02-2010 10:02pm

Just looking through the objections there, the same names are appearing on every planning application. Some of the people are living in Waterford City. What's their game? They all seem to be in cahoots imo, I'd say they all correspond when making objections. In this case, they all have the common objection about the trees.

Peter Burns shouldn't be too worried about Aldi. They sell different brand products, and Aldi sell stuff he doesn't even sell anyway. He may lose a few customers but I don't think he'll be put out of business. Most of Peter's customers are people living in the nearby estates who walk to his shop to get a few bits and pieces. People, being the lazy sods they are, will hardly walk the extra distance up to Aldi to but their pack of fags or carton of milk for the same price. He should also have a fairly solid and loyal customer base.

scout353 · 10-02-2010 1:15pm

Great to have Aldi coming to town - think they generally have a better range than Lidl and sometimes their specials are very good!

Won't have to drive to Ferrybank any more! (Usually has stock when The Glen is sold out!)

garrser · 10-02-2010 3:02pm

I'm all for Aldi coming to the town. I'm not sure though about the location they have chosen. As far as I can see it's on the main Waterford road behind the GAA centre, right between the Esso station and the Riverstown roundabout. That's a section of road that can get very busy even at the best of times..

rasper · 10-02-2010 8:10pm

I'd say thats an ideal spot for a supermarket with half the working population of Tramore driving past its entrance twice a day , that side of town could do with a outlet too.
Maybe its just the time of day I'm up near LIDL but it does seem their carpark is always empty compared to Tescos, so don't think that side would be a good location for another German discounter

garrser · 11-02-2010 3:44pm

Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Just not convinced that they should set up shop right on what is a fairly busy junction.

rasper · 14-02-2010 12:50am

are not the vast amounts of supermarkets built off busy roads and junctions

garrser · 15-02-2010 10:20pm

Yes, there have certainly been one or two (OK, a few more than that). Doesn't mean, however, that they all have to be..

Mugser · 18-04-2013 11:57am

Bit of a resurrection here, but I see in the news today: http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013/0418/381972-aldi-new-stores/ I wonder is there one bound for Tramore in this? Also heard that there was a bit of activity with heavy(ish) machinery in the mentioned site over the last few days too.

blankAs · 18-04-2013 12:05pm

Yet another 'fantastic' story for tramore! another supermarket is exactly what the town needs.......

Sully · 18-04-2013 12:23pm

blankAs wrote: »

Yet another 'fantastic' story for tramore! another supermarket is exactly what the town needs.......

Your negativity knows no bounds.

blankAs · 18-04-2013 3:53pm

It sure doesn't! in all fairness tramore has 10000 people (and yes theres more people surrounding it) but 3 supermarkets are a bit much. dont see how this will be beneficial for the town or even for its so valued tourists

Sully · 18-04-2013 4:57pm

blankAs wrote: »

It sure doesn't! in all fairness tramore has 10000 people (and yes theres more people surrounding it) but 3 supermarkets are a bit much. dont see how this will be beneficial for the town or even for its so valued tourists

I'm sure the companies have done their research and believe that they can open in Tramore.

tbayers · 19-04-2013 3:29am

Sully wrote: »

I'm sure the companies have done their research and believe that they can open in Tramore.

Hhhmm, whats the difference between the Flowrider and Aldi being set up in Tramore? A lot of people saying that the Flowrider doesn't have a chance in hell of surviving, yet a supermarket comes along to an already full market and people simply say "I am sure they have done their research". Bit mind boggling to be honest!

Sully · 19-04-2013 11:01am

tbayers wrote: »

Hhhmm, whats the difference between the Flowrider and Aldi being set up in Tramore? A lot of people saying that the Flowrider doesn't have a chance in hell of surviving, yet a supermarket comes along to an already full market and people simply say "I am sure they have done their research". Bit mind boggling to be honest!

They are two completely different businesses.

tbayers · 19-04-2013 1:05pm

But a business is a business! Flowrider have proven to be successful all over the world, as have Aldi. They both provide a service in exchange for customers, both fundamentally the same!

And im not trolling or anything, im just pointing something out. I am biased towards Flowrider and Skatepark, but still

Sorry for going off topic!

Sully · 19-04-2013 1:19pm

tbayers wrote: »

But a business is a business! Flowrider have proven to be successful all over the world, as have Aldi. They both provide a service in exchange for customers, both fundamentally the same!

And im not trolling or anything, im just pointing something out. I am biased towards Flowrider and Skatepark, but still Sorry for going off topic!

That logic doesn't work. Not every type of business would work in Tramore or anywhere.

The flowrider may just work alright, and sounds like a great idea. The units beside it are a cause for for concern seeing as so many units are empty in Tramore. I thought most objections were about the way it was being built anyway?

(Im not against this project, just to make that clear)

Anyway, both Tesco and Super Valu seem to be doing very well. Lidl likewise. Aldi may very well open up more discount shopping and serve a large town like Tramore and surrounding areas very well. They have tried several times to locate here and there coming to Dungarvan. Aldi is open all over Ireland and has succeeded in part due to being cheap and cheerful!

tbayers · 19-04-2013 1:34pm

Point taken and I agree with you on the other units, a Quicksilver store in Tramore, hhhmmmmmm.

Aldi would be great, as you said, more choice!

Brick Session · 20-04-2013 9:46pm

Competition is good for the consumer

Boskowski · 21-04-2013 10:38pm

Like 'em or not, Aldi are one of the most successful supermarket chains in Europe. I'm pretty sure one of the reasons why that is so is 'cos they know where to open a shop and where not. There's probably a little more research and analysis involved than 'I feel another store will do fine here'.
Can't see how more competition and a few more jobs can be a bad thing.

jupiterjack · 24-04-2013 11:26pm

blankAs wrote: »

Yet another 'fantastic' story for tramore! another supermarket is exactly what the town needs.......

just like the fantastic story about the roundabout you broke for us...its sure is looking good down there now, seems like the council now have the last laugh.

blankAs · 25-04-2013 9:46am

Realy?! the mess of concrete, imported stones, signs is looking fantastic? what about the lack of parking down in that area, does anyone thing anything through in this town! although it has massive entertainment value's i sure am looking forward to the summer to set up a deck chair and watch the chaos ensue.....

tbayers · 25-04-2013 11:30am

blankAs wrote: »

Realy?! the mess of concrete, imported stones, signs is looking fantastic? what about the lack of parking down in that area, does anyone thing anything through in this town! although it has massive entertainment value's i sure am looking forward to the summer to set up a deck chair and watch the chaos ensue.....

I for one was skeptical about the thing from first hearing about it. But after seeing more than a few pictures, it doesn't look that bad. It will help with a safer pedestrian crossing. But, as regards traffic, only time will tell. I personally think it will still get backup up on busy days. But we have to get nice weather for that to happen first. And going from the last two years, that aint too likely! And, if this other road around the industrial park links up as it is supposed to, who knows.

Hey look on the bright side, it will give another route for people to get into the fantastic new Flowrider centre, if it happens:D

Sully · 25-04-2013 2:02pm

I think the new roundabout looks pretty well on completion, though I see concerns that some businesses have in the area that appear not to be addressed.

Anyway, can we not just keep the Aldi discussion to this thread and keep other discussions to their own threads?

ex_infantry · 28-04-2013 12:48pm

lads aldi as far as i know aint goin ahead yet, they were just securing the site is all and demolishing the old house that stood there

Sully · 28-04-2013 1:32pm

ex_infantry wrote: »

lads aldi as far as i know aint goin ahead yet, they were just securing the site is all and demolishing the old house that stood there

Did they get permission to build? Didn't think they did yet?

ex_infantry · 28-04-2013 4:52pm

Sully wrote: »

Did they get permission to build? Didn't think they did yet?

thats what i'm saying, the work being carried out was just to secure the site and demolish the house nothing else

Boskowski · 05-05-2013 12:01pm

On a sidenote, anyone know what they're building at the back of Tescos?

ex_infantry · 05-05-2013 12:02pm

Boskowski wrote: »

On a sidenote, anyone know what they're building at the back of Tescos?

new mixed secondry school

rasper · 17-03-2017 9:54am

Going to resurrect this post as think it is valid, but how did aldi get refused planning permission and now we have another petrol stations, subway , pizza bar essentially out of the same location

Glad its there as extra jobs and a 24 shop , extra services, but why that and not Aldi.

Genuine question

spookwoman · 05-10-2017 1:03pm

rasper wrote: »

Going to resurrect this post as think it is valid, but how did aldi get refused planning permission and now we have another petrol stations, subway , pizza bar essentially out of the same location

Glad its there as extra jobs and a 24 shop , extra services, but why that and not Aldi.

Genuine question

Will they be knocking the old train station building as well. Could be a protected building

rasper · 06-10-2017 1:14pm

spookwoman wrote: »

Will they be knocking the old train station building as well. Could be a protected building

Its not on their site notice anyway , so If say no in fact it might make it more attractive for renovation rather than looking like a symbol of a ghost town from the wild west, isn't it abandoned for 65 odd years ffs,

The serial objectors , a certain shop owner and a certain councillor , hopefully will not be able stop
New jobs and services, like what happened in the rivers town farce , I would still live to hear what really happened as per my question above

spookwoman · 06-10-2017 7:26pm

rasper wrote: »

Its not on their site notice anyway , so If say no in fact it might make it more attractive for renovation rather than looking like a symbol of a ghost town from the wild west, isn't it abandoned for 65 odd years ffs,

The serial objectors , a certain shop owner and a certain councillor , hopefully will not be able stop
New jobs and services, like what happened in the rivers town farce , I would still live to hear what really happened as per my question above

Would be good to see the old building done up maybe into a coffee shop or nice gift /arts and crafts place.
Not a local so don';t know who the serial objectors are but the area where the buses stop over looks dodgy as hell and a small supermarket wouldn't do any harm for the area especially with it so close to the prom.

rasper · 07-10-2017 8:23am

If you read through the previous pages you will see to whom I refer to , Aldi have been trying to get into Tramore for years in different locations.
It baffles me how one section of the town has no reasonable shopping facilities , yet a 3rd filling station (applegreen which I'm happy for) was approved and built .
Why are all the supermarkets in one general location so if you don't have a car
no real public transport exists, the options do become limited for certain sections.
BTW I'm not a local either and do drive so it doesn't affect me the most , i feel that in a town like Tramore you shouldn't absolutely need a car.
In regards to the bus terminus and Victorian railway building ,see the link for the station and Aldi

https://tcrfm.ie/tramore-railway-station-successfully-purchased/

spookwoman · 07-10-2017 4:58pm

Another store owner up the other end of the town complaining and winning, that's Ireland to a T. My experience from the small local shops is they are a lot more expensive, bout time competition came in for the locals.
Planning details http://www.eplanning.ie/WaterfordCCC/AppFileRefDetails/17697/0

rasper · 09-10-2017 10:17am

Tell me about it , and if you read the objections at the time , a certain councillor from riverstown I believe, submitted an almost carbon copy of the store owners objection, one could assume that he didn't write it himself.
A political representative blocking jobs and services on behalf of a potential fear a business owner has, despite being a totally different business/ market , banana republic.

Now I don't know did an bord pleanala consider these ridiculous objectives but end result was a third filling station and no supermarket for people withouy cars .
Thanks for the link was going to look it up

rasper · 09-10-2017 6:10pm

Had a look at the plans, the council have certainly improved their site since the last time I looked. Looks like a fairly decent proposal , but we won't see the "seasoned objectors" launch their attacks until about week 4 (in my experiperience".
Hopefully the right and fair outcome will be achieved.

spookwoman · 09-10-2017 6:47pm

Looking at the previous site probably not the best place but this one in town looks good
Link to the old application for crobally

rasper · 09-10-2017 7:53pm

That's the one alright, and there was at least one even before that I believe. Gotta give it o the German outlet they know theirs good potential here and it is spread more evenly around the town, unless some of the chippers object because Aldi will see frozen chips cheaper and they get our local representative to sign a nearly photocopied letter.

rasper · 10-10-2017 5:14pm

heres the munster express article from the previous sabotage

http://www.munster-express.ie/local-news/an-bord-pleanala-rejects-aldi%E2%80%99s-tramore-proposal/

rasper · 03-11-2017 7:19pm

5 objections update on the planning site , all from the 1st November, all with identical objections suspect in itself , one is from tesco and one from SuperValu , all saying need to consolidate the retail as otherwise a customer needs to drive

Madness , u would swear tesco didn't have a car park never mind filling station

looksee · 03-11-2017 8:37pm

I am all in favour of an Aldi in Tramore, but I don't really think that is the best site for it. Mainly because I would like to see the visual amenity of Tramore's beach front improved; the fairground etc is fine, its in keeping with the entertainment aspect of a seaside town, but a discount supermarket? Not really. A large, single storey barn of a building just there isn't going to improve the view much, and I do agree it will create traffic issues in the summer.

On the other hand, if the increased footfall encourages someone to take the railway station in hand and turn it into cafes and craft type shops, especially with foot access from the supermarket, maybe it will be worth it.

rasper · 03-11-2017 8:45pm

Its not a perfect spot and the whole area has so much potential but it won't be developed at all .
The lake , the green area , the station the prom absolutely could be amazing but it won't its Ireland,
Have to disagree with the chippers , gambling and rusty amusements , I know tho it brings employment

spookwoman · 04-11-2017 5:14pm

Looking at this from a non native view, i think a supermarket is badly needed in that area. I don't know where tesco is or the other big stores but I know one thing someone living along the low lying part of the town with a load of shopping is going to have a nightmare if they are walking for relying on public transport.
Having no proper shop means having to take the bus (no space for bags) or drive. Most people like to do a big shop once a week. For someone with no car and can't hang around for a bus it's incredibly inconvenient. Then add the elderly, people with prams and kids even the sick, Tramore is not the best place to live when it comes to local conveniences that people need. Yes it's a tourist town but the people that live there should be put first.

looksee · 04-11-2017 6:28pm

rasper wrote: »

Its not a perfect spot and the whole area has so much potential but it won't be developed at all .
The lake , the green area , the station the prom absolutely could be amazing but it won't its Ireland,
Have to disagree with the chippers , gambling and rusty amusements , I know tho it brings employment

I don't disagree with that at all, but putting in a discount supermarket is not going to improve the amusements. Certainly put a shopping centre type development there, but one that provides all the services rather than just the rather specialised range that an Aldi provides. There are other places in the town that could accommodate Aldi without putting it on the seafront, surely there is somewhere over towards the Riverstown area where it would be useful for the residents of that side of the town.

Sully · 04-11-2017 8:27pm

I'm all for the development and addition of Aldi but I would like to see it placed elsewhere. I don't think down by / near the Sea Front is a suitable location for such a development. I don't think any commercial objector when they are objecting really are concerned about the impact on the area, though. It would be great to see Aldi moved up beside Lidl / Tesco and have them all in the one area.

rasper · 04-11-2017 9:16pm

It might encourage some development as opposed to dereliction which it is , nothing wrong with any supermarket down this end of the town , what's the point in sticking with 3 others and the rest of Tramore can make do with corner shops .
Much prefer a supermarket than another Chinese/ pound shop or bookies and its not exactly on the prom

Aldi Being built in Tramore

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