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Vodafone gigabit IP changes every day and wifi drops

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  • 01-11-2020 1:53pm
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    DavidJC
    Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭


    Just switched to VF Gigabit from Virgin.
    I used a DNS for TV to access BBC Iplayer and ITV player.

    This service is registered to my external ip. Every day it stops working and I have to log into the service and update the ip.

    With virgin in 4 years my ip never changed once. With VF it's every day.
    Is there any work around to stop the VF router from changing ip each day?

    The other issue is I get an exclamation mark beside the WiFi icon on my phone (android) with full signal regularly. When I click into the network info it says connected with no Internet and 5mb WiFi speed. Through ethernet connection is solid though.

    I reckon I should replace the standard router.


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    patsryan
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭patsryan


    DavidJC wrote: »
    Just switched to VF Gigabit from Virgin.
    I used a DNS for TV to access BBC Iplayer and ITV player.

    This service is registered to my external ip. Every day it stops working and I have to log into the service and update the ip.

    With virgin in 4 years my ip never changed once. With VF it's every day.
    Is there any work around to stop the VF router from changing ip each day?

    The other issue is I get an exclamation mark beside the WiFi icon on my phone (android) with full signal regularly. When I click into the network info it says connected with no Internet and 5mb WiFi speed. Through ethernet connection is solid though.

    I reckon I should replace the standard router.

    With Vodafone (and most other ISPs) you get a Dynamic IP as standard and would need to pay them for a static IP to ensure it doesn’t change.


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    pizzahead77
    Registered Users Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭pizzahead77


    Depending on the DNS service you use, they may have an application that you can install on a PC that will update the IP address automatically for you


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    Nowso
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    Leave your modem on overnight and your ip wont change


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    pizzahead77
    Registered Users Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭pizzahead77


    Nowso wrote: »
    Leave your modem on overnight and your ip wont change

    That is not true - as ISPs can change the IP address on their end by forcing a resync in the iddle of the night


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    Nowso
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    pizzahead77 wrote: »
    That is not true - as ISPs can change the IP address on their end by forcing a resync in the iddle of the night

    is that what there doing ?


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    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,166 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Nowso wrote: »
    is that what there doing ?

    It used to be a characteristic of some operators. Its a very very dated setup.


    Move to Eir, your IP will only change after a sustained outage.


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    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    Call me a cynic, but it changes regularly so Vodafone can charge you €6 a month for a fixed IP address


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    This is it
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    ED E wrote: »
    It used to be a characteristic of some operators. Its a very very dated setup.


    Move to Eir, your IP will only change after a sustained outage.

    Digiweb wouldn't change regularly either, they'll also give you a static IP if you ask but I think you've to pay if you need a subnet with GW, subnet mask, etc.


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    Nowso
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    ED E wrote: »
    It used to be a characteristic of some operators. Its a very very dated setup.


    Move to Eir, your IP will only change after a sustained outage.

    what outages would you say - ive seen it in over an hour in the day time


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    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,426 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    ED E wrote: »
    Move to Eir

    You must think the OP is some sort of masochist.


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    Simi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭Simi


    This used to drive me nuts with Vodafone, the signal dropping every night for the IP change.

    While this doesn't happen with Eir the supplied router is garbage. It doesn't like the randomised mac address feature on Android and will often take several seconds to connect to the access point.

    When it does connect it says 'no internet access' which causes it to jump to the 5ghz SSID and back and forth until it finally connects to one.

    It also has terrible backwards compatibility (I had to buy a WiFi dongle for my old laptop), and to top it off the range is abysmal!


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    Nowso
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    Simi wrote: »
    This used to drive me nuts with Vodafone, the signal dropping every night for the IP change.

    While this doesn't happen with Eir the supplied router is garbage. It doesn't like the randomised mac address feature on Android and will often take several seconds to connect to the access point.

    When it does connect it says 'no internet access' which causes it to jump to the 5ghz SSID and back and forth until it finally connects to one.

    It also has terrible backwards compatibility (I had to buy a WiFi dongle for my old laptop), and to top it off the range is abysmal!

    dropping signal every night to refresh would drive me mad especially as you could be streaming a film or sport etc -


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    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,166 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Nowso wrote: »
    what outages would you say - ive seen it in over an hour in the day time

    It varies. You have to be offline for long enough for your lease to expire on the agg and then somebody else has to cycle and "take" yours.


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    Fluffybums
    Registered Users Posts: 362 ✭✭Fluffybums


    Simi wrote: »
    This used to drive me nuts with Vodafone, the signal dropping every night for the IP change.

    While this doesn't happen with Eir the supplied router is garbage. It doesn't like the randomised mac address feature on Android and will often take several seconds to connect to the access point.

    When it does connect it says 'no internet access' which causes it to jump to the 5ghz SSID and back and forth until it finally connects to one.

    It also has terrible backwards compatibility (I had to buy a WiFi dongle for my old laptop), and to top it off the range is abysmal!

    I was wondering why my connection slows so much in the evenings, especially late at night.


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    jester77
    Registered Users Posts: 11,262 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Does the service have an API for updating the IP Address? If so, then there is almost guaranteed to be a docker container image out there that will do it for you. Even if there is no API there might even be container that gets around this some other way. Worth checking dockerhub to see what is available.


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    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,999 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Is there an option in the router for a DynDNS service?

    Something like this could work
    https://www.noip.com/

    There are also apps to trigger the service if you have something that is on each day.

    For services requiring external IP address you then provide your DynDNS URI in place of your IP address.


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    rogue-entity
    Registered Users Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭rogue-entity


    pizzahead77 wrote: »
    That is not true - as ISPs can change the IP address on their end by forcing a resync in the iddle of the night
    Esat/BT were doing this back in 2005, Vodafone bought that business and it seems it hasn't changed. Of course back then, you could only get a fixed IP by paying for a 'business' connection and they refused to sell me a business connection so I switched to someone else.
    Nathaniel Grumpy Outfielder wrote: »
    Call me a cynic, but it changes regularly so Vodafone can charge you €6 a month for a fixed IP address
    I think it's aimed more at frustrating anyone wanting to host anything off their home connection with the tepid upshot of a little added online obscurity (since your IP changes daily) yet I wouldn't be surprised if you're correct.


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    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,166 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    jester77 wrote: »
    Does the service have an API for updating the IP Address? If so, then there is almost guaranteed to be a docker container image out there that will do it for you. Even if there is no API there might even be container that gets around this some other way. Worth checking dockerhub to see what is available.


    The RAS or (BRAS) is terminating the PPPoE session forcing the client to reconnect. I'm not sure how you imagine a containerisation system can help with this.





    I'm not sure why they ever did it but it may have been a crude way to do the billing check. The RAS doesnt keep your account records, that'll be in a separate customer/billing db when you go to dial again your creds or CSI are checked against the account to ensure you're active, paid up, etc. If you force a daily reset the people deactivated over the course of the day will then be disconnected and not receive weeks of free service. You can easily do live checks like other ISPs do today, but these systems may be very very old.


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    [Deleted User]
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    I have vodafone and have it bridged to a mikrotik.
    I use Mikrotik's Dynamic Dns which I have as a cname to my own domain for ease, eg home.mydomain.com

    I have a specific SSID on a vlan which has the DNS for the smart DNS.

    The smart DNS provider that I use allows the zones to set via IP/Dynamic DNS.

    It works flawlessly.

    I would suggest getting a Raspberry pi to set up the above for dyndns.


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    jester77
    Registered Users Posts: 11,262 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    ED E wrote: »
    The RAS or (BRAS) is terminating the PPPoE session forcing the client to reconnect. I'm not sure how you imagine a containerisation system can help with this.


    I have this exact setup and it works almost perfectly with server. I have a downtime of under 5 mins, but this is ok for me. The container monitors the IP address and updates my cloudflare dns address so that the server can be found.

    You could do the exact same for the VPN provider. Have the container update the dns settings on the VPN provider when they change locally.


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