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Shapey Fiend · 19-10-2020 2:42pm

Markitron wrote: »

Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but are you complaining about them giving you too many games?

Well games I'd only very passing interest in. Like let's look at what they've had this year (when I wasn't subbed) The Sims 4, Call of Duty, Farming Simulator, Star Wars Battlefront, Street Fighter V, Bioshock are all in series I've played a couple of and am not arsed with another sequel. Tomb Raider and Uncharted I'm not into. Already have PUBG, Fall Guys, Shadow of the Colossus. Sonic Forces and Goat Simulator are bad games. I'd probably try NBA2k, Vampyr, Erika, NFS and Dirt 2, Cities Skylines.

I don't really play online either so it wasn't a very hard thing to cancel is all I'm saying.

Steam has spoiled me in that I can get a lot of games I'm interested in for cheap.

Netflix & Prime aren't very comparable because you're paying for access to thousands of shows and have your pick. Plus the whole family are using them. I certainly don't watch 99.95% of what's on there but there's a steady trickle of things very catered to my tastes.

quokula · 19-10-2020 2:54pm

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

Well games I'd only very passing interest in. Like let's look at what they've had this year (when I wasn't subbed) The Sims 4, Call of Duty, Farming Simulator, Star Wars Battlefront, Street Fighter V, Bioshock are all in series I've played a couple of and am not arsed with another sequel. Tomb Raider and Uncharted I'm not into. Already have PUBG, Fall Guys, Shadow of the Colossus. Sonic Forces and Goat Simulator are bad games. I'd probably try NBA2k, Vampyr, Erika, NFS and Dirt 2, Cities Skylines.

I don't really play online either so it wasn't a very hard thing to cancel is all I'm saying.

Steam has spoiled me in that I can get a lot of games I'm interested in for cheap.

Netflix & Prime aren't very comparable because you're paying for access to thousands of shows and have your pick. Plus the whole family are using them. I certainly don't watch 99.95% of what's on there but there's a steady trickle of things very catered to my tastes.

PS+ is for access to online multiplayer and you get some discounts and the free games for added value. If you shop around you can get a year's worth for very little, the free games aren't ones I'm interested in that often, but it's so cheap and with the other features you get I don't really think too much about it.

PSNow / GamePass are the proper subscription services. They give you a lot more content, but they're also more expensive and they suffer from what you describe - 80 or 100 games is certainly a lot more than the 2 per month you get on PS+, but they don't actually offer very many more than 2 new games each month once you've already been through the back catalog, and the reality is that most of them are things you won't be interested in playing. It's very different to something like Netflix that gives you thousands of options, with many shows you can dip in and out of much more easily.

BTW, Fall Guys launched on PS+, so you couldn't have already had it. I don't know what they were charging to non-plus subscribers, but it wouldn't surprise me if you could have got a good few months of plus for the price of that game.

Star Lord · 20-10-2020 2:28pm

quokula wrote: »

BTW, Fall Guys launched on PS+, so you couldn't have already had it. I don't know what they were charging to non-plus subscribers, but it wouldn't surprise me if you could have got a good few months of plus for the price of that game.

It's also on PC, so they very well could have.

EoinMcLovin · 23-10-2020 8:46pm

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1319720697871163392?s=19

Retr0gamer · 23-10-2020 9:55pm

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1319720697871163392?s=19

I watched the video and I'm.even more confused. What is it even about?

sniper_samurai · 23-10-2020 10:03pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I watched the video and I'm.even more confused. What is it even about?

Designer PlayStation crap.

Retr0gamer · 23-10-2020 10:26pm

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Designer PlayStation crap.

Load of ****e. Being back David lynch!

TheValeyard · 24-10-2020 12:06am

who the f*ck does a software change on a Friday night! *angry noises* Damn EA

Zero-Cool · 26-10-2020 8:31am

Bladerunner Enhanced Edition won't release in 2020 anymore as project has become a mess. Devs can't get access to source code, reverse engineer the code, create tool to extract assets from the original, looks like will just have to upscale the videos from the original. Not holding my breath on this one.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-22-replicating-blade-runner-why-the-adventure-game-classic-is-so-tough-to-remaster

daheadonu · 26-10-2020 11:34am

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Bladerunner Enhanced Edition won't release in 2020 anymore as project has become a mess. Devs can't get access to source code, reverse engineer the code, create told to extract assets from the original, looks like will just have to upscale the videos from the original. Not holding my breath on this one.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-22-replicating-blade-runner-why-the-adventure-game-classic-is-so-tough-to-remaster

reminds me of silent hill hd collection development,is this a common thing with old games losing the source code?

CatInABox · 26-10-2020 1:20pm

daheadonu wrote: »

reminds me of silent hill hd collection development,is this a common thing with old games losing the source code?

Very rare these days, but there was a good few years/decades where preservation wasn't even an after thought.

You might be able to get huge hard drives for less than €100 nowadays, but storage was massively expensive, and was often on really weird proprietary disks thta might not even be read these days.

The Command and Conquer Remastered Devs have a good documentary on what they went through, including searching through offices storerooms and warehouses until they found some of the videos disks, then had to go looking for a way to just identify what type of tapes they were, before needing to get specialists in to recover the data. After all that, it was the exact same quality that they already had, so it was a bit of a fools errand.

Gaming isn't the only industry to suffer from this though. Both RTE and the BBC used to just tape over their own shows. I think there's episodes of Doctor Who that are just....gone.

johnny_ultimate · 26-10-2020 1:30pm

Yep, large swathes of cinema history have been lost due to insufficient archiving as well.

It’s easy to express dismay in hindsight, but a lot of these things only become treasures decades after the fact. As mentioned above, storage in generations gone was bulky and expensive, so there wasn’t the same possibility of archiving everything (and with film there was also the very real danger of fire). Equally, a lot of tv shows, games and films were deemed trivial and insignificant at the time - not seen as valuable historical records worthy of preservation. Thankfully our knowledge of these things has changed, and keeping data safe is now taken very seriously.

Some great stories to emerge though, of holy grails being found - such as the lost footage from silent movie classic Metropolis being rediscovered 80 years after the fact.

The Raging Bile Duct · 26-10-2020 3:08pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Yep, large swathes of cinema history have been lost due to insufficient archiving as well.

It’s easy to express dismay in hindsight, but a lot of these things only become treasures decades after the fact. As mentioned above, storage in generations gone was bulky and expensive, so there wasn’t the same possibility of archiving everything (and with film there was also the very real danger of fire). Equally, a lot of tv shows, games and films were deemed trivial and insignificant at the time - not seen as valuable historical records worthy of preservation. Thankfully our knowledge of these things has changed, and keeping data safe is now taken very seriously.

Some great stories to emerge though, of holy grails being found - such as the lost footage from silent movie classic Metropolis being rediscovered 80 years after the fact.

Speaking of fires, the Universal Studios fire in 2008 destroyed up to 175,000 audio master tapes that included everyone from Nirvana to Buddy Holly to 50 Cent to Louis Armstrong. They kept the extent of the damage to their archives very quiet afterwards.

daheadonu · 26-10-2020 4:07pm

johnny_ultimate wrote:

Some great stories to emerge though, of holy grails being found - such as the lost footage from silent movie classic Metropolis being rediscovered 80 years after the fact.

johnny_ultimate wrote:

Itâ€™s easy to express dismay in hindsight, but a lot of these things only become treasures decades after the fact. As mentioned above, storage in generations gone was bulky and expensive, so there wasnâ€™t the same possibility of archiving everything (and with film there was also the very real danger of fire). Equally, a lot of tv shows, games and films were deemed trivial and insignificant at the time - not seen as valuable historical records worthy of preservation. Thankfully our knowledge of these things has changed, and keeping data safe is now taken very seriously.

johnny_ultimate wrote:

Yep, large swathes of cinema history have been lost due to insufficient archiving as well.

Was actually watching a video when the reviewer mentioned that event horizons lost footage was found in a salt mine in Transylvania!

Retr0gamer · 26-10-2020 4:57pm

daheadonu wrote: »

Was actually watching a video when the reviewer mentioned that event horizons lost footage was found in a salt mine in Transylvania!

Salt mines are actually used an awful lot for storage due to the lack.of moisture in the air and the atmosphere that isn't great for microbial growth.

Penn · 27-10-2020 2:45pm

Assassins Creed show coming to Netflix

https://twitter.com/NXOnNetflix/status/1321081578697621508?s=19

Zero-Cool · 27-10-2020 2:49pm

Penn wrote: »

Assassins Creed show coming to Netflix

https://twitter.com/NXOnNetflix/status/1321081578697621508?s=19

Multiple series including a live action one, animated and anime. Live action one currently looking for a showrunner.

https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/5yREt2YYOAO2W8zMmPN0s2/liveaction-assassins-creed-series-coming-to-netflix

quokula · 27-10-2020 2:53pm

I kind of hope this will be a Doctor Who style "jump in the animus and help out a different historical figure every week" type of format. Because historic tourism is what Assassin's Creed is good at. The actual mythology and storyline that runs through the series is dreadful and I don't think it would hold up for a tv show.

johnny_ultimate · 27-10-2020 3:01pm

The Netflix model: throw money at every IP possible and hope something, somewhere sticks.

Penn · 27-10-2020 3:06pm

At least with an Assassin's Creed series it'll be easier to distinguish different timelines than season 1 of The Witcher.

J. Marston · 27-10-2020 3:40pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

The Netflix model: throw money at every IP possible and hope something, somewhere sticks.

Yep, they will greenlight any old shìt and cancel it just as quick.

The Raging Bile Duct · 27-10-2020 3:48pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Yep, they will greenlight any old shìt and cancel it just as quick.

Still sore they cancelled I Am Not Okay with This, GLOW and Mindhunter.

recyclops · 27-10-2020 3:52pm

yeah like a modern day quantum leap but instead of helping folk there is a weekly assassination

Oh Boy!!!!!!

The Raging Bile Duct · 27-10-2020 3:54pm

recyclops wrote: »

yeah like a modern day quantum leap but instead of helping folk there is a weekly assassination

Oh Boy!!!!!!

That sounds like genuinely the worst programme ever.

daheadonu · 27-10-2020 3:55pm

The Raging Bile Duct wrote:

Still sore they cancelled I Am Not Okay with This, GLOW and Mindhunter.

Read that it was more David fingers choice although I would never say never

Zero-Cool · 27-10-2020 3:58pm

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Still sore they cancelled I Am Not Okay with This, GLOW and Mindhunter.

They cancelled GLOW? FUUUCK!

J. Marston · 27-10-2020 4:22pm

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

Still sore they cancelled I Am Not Okay with This, GLOW and Mindhunter.

Santa Clarita Diet is my sore point. That was a brilliant show and ended on a semi-cliffhanger.

The Raging Bile Duct · 27-10-2020 4:24pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Santa Clarita Diet is my sore point. That was a brilliant show and ended on a semi-cliffhanger.

Couldn't make it past the first episode of that show. Olyphant and Barrymore were like a comedy vacuum.

EoinMcLovin · 27-10-2020 4:41pm

recyclops wrote: »

yeah like a modern day quantum leap but instead of helping folk there is a weekly assassination

Oh Boy!!!!!!

I'd say for the live action Series they would stick with one time period per season having each season based around a different Animus subject.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 27-10-2020 4:50pm

daheadonu wrote: »

Read that it was more David fingers choice although I would never say never

with a name like that , he was a #metoo waiting to happen.

johnny_ultimate · 27-10-2020 4:52pm

David Fingers: “Marge, I would appreciate it if you didn't tell anyone about my busy fingers. Not so much for myself, but I am so respected, it would damage the town to hear it.”

Retr0gamer · 27-10-2020 4:56pm

Assassin's Creed's lore and story is so convoluted that the only videogame lore I care less about is Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts is a veeeeeeery high bar to surmount. And I include FF13's universe in that assessment.

The Raging Bile Duct · 27-10-2020 5:18pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Assassin's Creed's lore and story is so convoluted that the only videogame lore I care less about is Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts is a veeeeeeery high bar to surmount. And I include FF13's universe in that assessment.

I don't think I ever made it past a couple of hours of an Assassin's Creed game. They bored the shít out of me. Did the Animus framing device have any tangible effect on the games or gameplay in the series?

CastorTroy · 27-10-2020 5:23pm

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

with a name like that , he was a #metoo waiting to happen.

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

David Fingers: “Marge, I would appreciate it if you didn't tell anyone about my busy fingers. Not so much for myself, but I am so respected, it would damage the town to hear it.”

Yet oddly my mind went to it being a Mafia name. Goodfellas style intro with him playing the piano

Stone Deaf 4evr · 27-10-2020 6:07pm

I dunno, I thought the story was actually alright up until part 3 when they botched it by killing desmond and scuppering the future story. It was all building nicely to a game set in the future and we never got it.

Retr0gamer · 27-10-2020 6:12pm

Has it not gotten to the point of knowing self parody where they know it's gone off the rails so just give a half arsed excuse to enjoy a new big open world in a fancy location? AKA the watchdogs 2 effect.

Penn · 27-10-2020 6:16pm

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

I dunno, I thought the story was actually alright up until part 3 when they botched it by killing desmond and scuppering the future story. It was all building nicely to a game set in the future and we never got it.

Yeah they stretched Desmond's story out as much as possible, then had absolutely nothing to replace it with, shoehorned something ridiculous in for a few games which ended up being resolved in a tie-in comic book, and now with Origins have started a new modern-day story thread with a new modern-day protagonist. I didn't pay much attention to it in Odyssey though. It's supposed to be a bigger part of Valhalla, but we'll see what happens.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 27-10-2020 6:20pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Has it not gotten to the point of knowing self parody where they know it's gone off the rails so just give a half arsed excuse to enjoy a new big open world in a fancy location? AKA the watchdogs 2 effect.

Black flag (I havent finished it) had an out of animus section that saw you working as a game designer for an evil developer that was kinda entertaining in its own right, but I never finished it so I dont know how it panned out.

wes · 27-10-2020 7:09pm

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

I dunno, I thought the story was actually alright up until part 3 when they botched it by killing desmond and scuppering the future story. It was all building nicely to a game set in the future and we never got it.

Yeah they listened to people online and messed things up.

Retr0gamer · 28-10-2020 2:18pm

In more 'Gamers are scum' news, CD Projekt are getting death threats following the delay of Cyberpunk.

Zero-Cool · 28-10-2020 2:22pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

In more 'Gamers are scum' news, CD Projekt are getting death threats following the delay of Cyberpunk.

Yeah, i thought it was bad when people were ripping CP social media because they had the 19th already booked off work but no, dickheads had to go the whole way.

https://twitter.com/HollieB/status/1321362644830425088?s=19

J. Marston · 28-10-2020 2:29pm

It's horrific for the people getting them and clearly shouldn't be happening but death threats is just white noise news to me at this stage.

Every major or minor gaming "scandal" has death threats attached to it. Doesn't mean it's alright, it just means it's hard to be horrified about it when it seems to be a fortnightly occurence.

Shapey Fiend · 28-10-2020 4:30pm

I think I'd be dismissive of death threats if I got them cos I'd think "Oh, that's very easy to write" but a lot of people have had experiences make it harder shake off that kind of stuff. Certainly I'd find working a 6 day week and getting called a **** on the internet for it a little irksome.

But anybody who's worked a public facing job will know threats and intimidation are pretty routine. It's not like the internet invented it. I've had to tell customers to **** off a couple of times and my bosses accepted it because I'm generally pretty patient.

Exclamation Marc · 28-10-2020 4:36pm

The entitlement in some parts of the gaming industry is bewildering at times. Sure it happens across many industries but its always a bit more pointed in gaming.

I read some of the messages last night by chance and they were seriously demented. From what I hear, things are tight enough in CD Projekt Red as it is, never mind getting death threats and pure bile.

Zero-Cool · 28-10-2020 6:10pm

https://twitter.com/ZawAndy/status/1321441240630657024?s=19

Azza · 28-10-2020 6:16pm

Anytime anyone sends a death threat, the developers should announce a 1 month delay to the game and name the people who sent the threats as the people responsible for the delay so they can get the death threats sent to them instead.

pixelburp · 28-10-2020 8:27pm

Until some folk are made very public examples, including legal prosecution alongside social media expulsion, this will continue to happen online. Scrotes with no sense of consequence or common decency aren't going to understand their actions without scaring the bejesus outta them.

Potential-Monke · 28-10-2020 8:42pm

I like that Andrej said they are reporting them, hopefully the police will be of help and actually follow up and prosecute these people. This will keep happening until others see these dicks getting prison time for this carry on, and it might make them think twice about doing it themselves. Just like that young racist that had a go at Ian Wright, example needs to be made.

CatInABox · 29-10-2020 5:07pm

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1321842754377392134

Interesting stats here on the breakdown of Capcoms sales. Digital was as high as 83% for the first 6 months of the year, which I thought would have been driven by Covid, but their entire year sales last year was 80% digital, without any Covid lockdown. I'd now be very surprised to see a disc based console next gen.

Retr0gamer · 29-10-2020 5:19pm

They've also been doubling down on PC releases and have been really good in that area, outside of the DMC 5 update bull.

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