Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

Akrasia · 13-04-2019 4:47pm

mystic86 wrote: »

Disaster for Munster with Glasgow beating Leinster! No home semi for Munster. 3 home games now for Glasgow to win the league! Edinburgh and then probably Ulster and then probably Leinster.

Awful result

Erik Shun · 13-04-2019 4:47pm

mystic86 wrote: »

Disaster for Munster with Glasgow beating Leinster! No home semi for Munster. 3 home games now for Glasgow to win the league! Edinburgh and then probably Ulster and then probably Leinster.

Not a disaster at all...in fact most people thought they would beat Leinster today

mystic86 · 13-04-2019 4:52pm

Erik Shun wrote: »

Not a disaster at all...in fact most people thought they would beat Leinster today

Eh? Even if they were 1/50 and went on to win it as expected it's still a disaster from a Munster point of view

Erik Shun · 13-04-2019 4:55pm

mystic86 wrote: »

Eh? Even if they were 1/50 and went on to win it as expected it's still a disaster from a Munster point of view

Only if you think Munster are incapable of beating them in Newcastle

mystic86 · 13-04-2019 4:56pm

Erik Shun wrote: »

Only if you think Munster are incapable of beating them in Newcastle

In Glasgow you mean? Problem is now we've to play the semi final away to Leinster. If both teams make it etc.

Erik Shun · 13-04-2019 4:57pm

mystic86 wrote: »

In Glasgow you mean? Problem is now we've to play the semi final away to Leinster. If both teams make it etc.

No...I meant Newcastle

mystic86 · 13-04-2019 5:00pm

Erik Shun wrote: »

No...I meant Newcastle

what are you on about? Which Pro 14 game is on in Newcastle?

Erik Shun · 13-04-2019 5:04pm

mystic86 wrote: »

what are you on about? Which Pro 14 game is on in Newcastle?

I'm taking the proverbial..sorry...
but, I think we are the form Irish team and I think we are maybe favourite now.,.. Glasgow are good.... but a final a against Munster...I'll bet on us this year

Eod100 · 13-04-2019 5:06pm

Home to Treviso in qf as it stands. Another away semi in Dublin vs Leinster if we win that then.

mystic86 · 13-04-2019 5:07pm

Erik Shun wrote: »

I think we are the form Irish team and I think we are maybe favourite now.,.. Glasgow are good.... but a final a against Munster...I'll bet on us this year

looks like you're still taking the proverbial with statements like that. I hope.

PTH2009 · 13-04-2019 5:10pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Home to Treviso in qf as it stands. Another away semi in Dublin vs Leinster if we win that then.

Yeah looks that way

Doubt Zebre will beat Treviso and then Edinburgh beat Glasgow. If so we will get top spot if we beat Connacht

Could be 2 weeks of Munster vs Leinster with one being in Newcastle and other in Dublin lol.

Erik Shun · 13-04-2019 5:10pm

mystic86 wrote: »

looks like you're still taking the proverbial with statements like that. I hope.

Glasgow have Embra at home yet... think we'll see an upset there, esp after the Ulster result.

Clegg · 13-04-2019 5:11pm

I don't think either Irish side is getting to the European final.

Erik Shun · 13-04-2019 5:12pm

Clegg wrote: »

I don't think either Irish side is getting to the European final.

That's probably correct... Munster on an upward trajectory.. but a year too early . Leinster on a downward spiral.... next season will be telling for their coaching staff

Vinnie222 · 13-04-2019 5:14pm

Erik Shun wrote: »

Glasgow have Embra at home yet... think we'll see an upset there, esp after the Ulster result.

The long season is catching up with Edinburgh . Hard to see an upset in Glasgow

Erik Shun · 13-04-2019 5:18pm

Vinnie222 wrote: »

The long season is catching up with Edinburgh . Hard to see an upset in Glasgow

Quite possibly... but I think they have enough in their locker to do it, we'll worry about that after next Saturday though

mystic86 · 13-04-2019 5:22pm

I think it's Glasgow's year, 3 games left and all in Glasgow now.

Eod100 · 13-04-2019 5:24pm

Vinnie222 wrote: »

The long season is catching up with Edinburgh . Hard to see an upset in Glasgow

Same length season for the 2 of them with both being in CC qfs but would have to fancy Glasgow on current form.

Vinnie222 · 13-04-2019 5:38pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Same length season for the 2 of them with both being in CC qfs but would have to fancy Glasgow on current form.

Edinburgh dont have the strength in depth compare to Glasgow

13-04-2019 6:57pm

Vinnie222 wrote: »

The long season is catching up with Edinburgh . Hard to see an upset in Glasgow

Same situation last season - they just don't quite have the panel for the business end of the season and the players seem to know it. Ulster were brilliant yesterday but Edinburgh helped them with a fairly tepid performance.

Eod100 · 13-04-2019 7:26pm

Bristol beat Saracens there with last minute penalty from Madigan. Not a full starting team but still decent result

Jump_In_Jack · 14-04-2019 10:53am

What’s the likely lineup for next week?

I’m guessing something like the following:

1. Kilcoyne, 2. N. Scannell, 3. Ryan,
4. Beirne, 5. Kleyn,
6. O’Mahony, 7. Cloete, 8. Stander,
9. Murray, 10. Hanrahan,
12. R. Scannell, 13. Farrell,
11. Earls, 14. Conway,
15. Haley.

16. Marshall, 17. Loughman, 18. Archer, 19. Holland, 20. O’Donoghue, 21. Mathewson, 22. Bleyendaal, 23. Sweetnam.

Botha and Goggin the 24th and 25th men.

Edit - Forgot about Beirne! ðŸ€¦*♂️

Erik Shun · 14-04-2019 11:03am

I think Jack O'D instead of Cloete...and a possibility of the hookers being reversed.

Boscoirl · 14-04-2019 11:05am

Is Beirne injured?

Botha will be on the bench, we need his physicality, it’s going to be an attritional game

bennyl10 · 14-04-2019 11:11am

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

What’s the likely lineup for next week?

I’m guessing something like the following:

1. Kilcoyne, 2. N. Scannell, 3. Ryan,
4. Holland, 5. Kleyn,
6. O’Mahony, 7. Cloete, 8. Stander,
9. Murray, 10. Hanrahan,
12. R. Scannell, 13. Farrell,
11. Earls, 14. Conway,
15. Haley.

16. Marshall, 17. Loughman, 18. Archer, 19. Wycherley, 20. O’Donoghue, 21. Mathewson, 22. Bleyendaal, 23. Sweetnam.

Botha and Goggin the 24th and 25th men.

Tyler starts over JJ if he’s fit
Not even a question on form.

JOD over Cloete is a tight one aswell

Jump_In_Jack · 14-04-2019 11:21am

Boscoirl wrote: »

Is Beirne injured?

Botha will be on the bench, we need his physicality, it’s going to be an attritional game

So, possibly:
7. O’Donoghue, 20. Botha?
Would you think Cloete is not physical enough?

Either way, I’d personally rate O’Donoghue above Botha, just think JOD offers something more than the bash it up plays that Botha is used for, and O’Donoghue is better at the rucks IMO.

I’m not sure Cloete is playing well enough lately to get into the starting 15, and would rather Botha on the bench if Cloete didn’t start.

Caranica · 14-04-2019 11:23am

Jack to start, Botha to bench. We can't afford to have Cloete in the 23 until he stops being a penalty magnet.

Tyler to start over JJ. It's a small sample size but he's had 2 good games and JJ has had 1 in recent weeks.

Boscoirl · 14-04-2019 11:27am

We are going to have Billy V running into us all day, Cloete’s Strength is getting over the ball, having Beirne and POM in the team allows us to go with the bigger players,

leakyboots · 14-04-2019 1:21pm

Cloete has been a complete menace at the breakdown the past few games, he gets at least a turnover or two on the deck. He's a bit hotheaded alright and if I were Sarries I'd be niggling him off the ball every time possible

I'd still start him, I'd have Botha on the bench too, horses for courses and his impact off the bench is brilliant - JOD loses out for me

jmn51927 · 14-04-2019 1:46pm

With Beirne and O’Mahony aswell as the use of Jack/CJ/Niall we will be rule the floor without cloete. Jod’s Physicality will be needed, we swag in those 20 mins how well he dealt w the likes of Mata and Watson. For me it’s JOD and Botha on the Bench

Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

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