Immigration question..concerning my mother.

Ohoopee · 01-12-2018 10:25pm #1

I am a naturalized Irish Citizen. I was born and grew up in the United States. Recently my mother's husband passed away. Her mother is currently suffering from sever dementia and is not expected to live much longer. When her mother Passes away, my mother is going to want to move to Ireland to be near me as I will be the only family she has left. She is retired from a University in the US so he has teacher retirement, so she will have her own income, and medical insurance which she has been told, can be used in Ireland.

So can my mother come to live in Ireland? And if so, what do I need to do when the time comes? While she does have her own income, she may want to work just part time for even just a couple of days a week, just to give her something to do. Can she claim citizenship because I have citizenship? I went to citizens information they were not much help. It will not be this year and hopefully not next year but soon my mother will be wanting to move over and I am just wondering what process we need go through will be. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Under His Eye · 01-12-2018 10:31pm

She would have to apply for a Stamp 0.
http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/registration-independent

Can she claim citizenship because I have citizenship?

Nope. She would have to have 5 years residency like everyone else.

Victor · 02-12-2018 12:13am

Ohoopee wrote: »

she will have her own ... medical insurance which she has been told, can be used in Ireland.

If this is included as part of her pension, fair enough, but Irish health insurance may be cheaper, more efficient and more relevant.

she may want to work just part time for even just a couple of days a week, just to give her something to do.

Volunteering might not be a problem. Paid work would likely need a work visa.

She might be entitled to some benefits like a free travel pass, which seems to be based on residence, not PRSI contributions.

4ensic15 · 03-12-2018 9:51am

Has your mother an Irish grandparent in her lineage?

seamus · 03-12-2018 10:46am

This page will also help on a Stamp 0;
https://ie.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/local-resources-of-u-s-citizens/living-in-ireland/

The general threshold for "independent means" is €50k per annum, though if she were to come and live with you, that may be lowered since she will have no accommodation costs.

One very important thing to note - if she comes over on a Stamp 0, then any time spent here does not count as residency for the purposes of naturalisation. That is, she cannot apply for permanent residency after 8 years if she has been living here on a Stamp 0.

If the plan long-term is that she will apply for permanent residency, maybe even citizenship, then she needs a Stamp 1 (permission to work) or Stamp 3 (permission to remain but NOT work).

Strictly speaking someone still needs an appropriate visa to do volunteer work, but for the most part that's a burden on a the sponsor - proving that the person applying for the visa will be volunteering for them long-term. Simply volunteering for work while in Ireland won't cause visa problems.

If she is anywhere near an Irish embassy, or fancies going on a holiday to one, then I'd say it would be worth talking to them to find out what's right for her. A Stamp 1 is ideal, it gives the most freedom, but may not be available unless she has an exceptionally generous pension.

cml387 · 03-12-2018 2:47pm

Did I hear something about the Irish government proposing to make it easier for US citizens to retire here, in exchange for more visas for Irish wishing to move to the US?

ohnonotgmail · 03-12-2018 2:51pm

cml387 wrote: »

Did I hear something about the Irish government proposing to make it easier for US citizens to retire here, in exchange for more visas for Irish wishing to move to the US?

there was definitely something in the news about that last week but i cant find the story.

TeaBagMania · 03-12-2018 8:04pm

cml387 wrote: »

Did I hear something about the Irish government proposing to make it easier for US citizens to retire here, in exchange for more visas for Irish wishing to move to the US?

would like to know more about this myself, sub'd

L1011 · 03-12-2018 8:46pm

Its the suggested quid pro quo for extending the E3 visa to Ireland, which is currently under debate

Ohoopee · 06-12-2018 8:26pm

seamus wrote: »

This page will also help on a Stamp 0;
https://ie.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/local-resources-of-u-s-citizens/living-in-ireland/

The general threshold for "independent means" is €50k per annum, though if she were to come and live with you, that may be lowered since she will have no accommodation costs.

One very important thing to note - if she comes over on a Stamp 0, then any time spent here does not count as residency for the purposes of naturalisation. That is, she cannot apply for permanent residency after 8 years if she has been living here on a Stamp 0.

If the plan long-term is that she will apply for permanent residency, maybe even citizenship, then she needs a Stamp 1 (permission to work) or Stamp 3 (permission to remain but NOT work).

Strictly speaking someone still needs an appropriate visa to do volunteer work, but for the most part that's a burden on a the sponsor - proving that the person applying for the visa will be volunteering for them long-term. Simply volunteering for work while in Ireland won't cause visa problems.

If she is anywhere near an Irish embassy, or fancies going on a holiday to one, then I'd say it would be worth talking to them to find out what's right for her. A Stamp 1 is ideal, it gives the most freedom, but may not be available unless she has an exceptionally generous pension.

WEll she was a teacher so her pention is not 50,000 per year, especually once it is converted from Dollars to Euros. So I guess the only option is for her to move in with me? When the time comes, what do I need to do to apply for a Stamp 3 for her?

Immigration question..concerning my mother.

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