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Tour de France 2020 | Stage 18 (Méribel - La Roche-sur-Foron, 175 km)

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  • #102
    CowboyTed
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    Aye but you get a 20 point Green Jersey deduction if you finish outside the time limit, so not ideal for Sam.

    Agreed...

    Average speed so far is 36.3km/hr... 38.21min limit

    It could be higher...


  • #103
    retalivity
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    Ineos gonna split this - polka dots for carapaz, stage win for kwiatko


  • #104
    MPFGLB
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    retalivity wrote: »
    Ineos gonna split this - polka dots for carapaz, stage win for kwiatko

    No way ...Carapaz wants this stage


  • #105
    Dodge
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    MPFGLB wrote: »
    No way ...Carapaz wants this stage

    Deserves it too to be fair


  • #106
    MPFGLB
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    Dodge wrote: »
    Deserves it too to be fair

    So does Kwaito to be fair


  • #107
    lennymc
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    The Grupetto are masters of calculation, they very very rarely fail to make the cutoff.

    didnt cavendish fall foul of some dodgy bernie eisel calculations in a grupetto one day?

    lots of people making the calculation, so i wouldnt be worried.


  • #108
    Keeks
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    Aye but you get a 20 point Green Jersey deduction if you finish outside the time limit, so not ideal for Sam.

    Is this a rule or basing on what happened to Cavenish previously.....

    I Think it is up to the race commisionarire.....and that could be anything.....
    But with a large gruppetto this close to the end of the tour they are unlikely to do anything...


  • #109
    retalivity
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    The richie porte disaster coming late this year


  • #110
    Dr. Bre
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    Porte having bad luck. This happens every year for him


  • #111
    Macy0161
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    If yesterday was vintage Landa, that's vintage Porte right there.


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  • #112
    mr spuckler
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    26' 42" to Bennett's group :)


  • #113
    Dr. Bre
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    Did Yates have a mechanical? He’s behind Porte


  • #114
    Mefistofelino
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    Macy0161 wrote: »
    If yesterday was vintage Landa, that's vintage Porte right there.

    Boom. And indeed, boom.


  • #115
    lennymc
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    assuming fastest projected stage time of 5hrs 7 minutes, that gives about 36:50 cut off according to http://www.velofacts.com/cx-laps/tour-de-france-2020-time-limit-calculator.html


  • #116
    [Deleted User]
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    Mas looking for work from the others here.


  • #117
    tobefrank321
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    Ineos will surely let Kwiatkowski win. Long serving team member, might never be in this position again and Carapaz already has kom in the bag.


  • #118
    MPFGLB
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    Yates was dropped


  • #119
    tobefrank321
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    Macy0161 wrote: »
    If yesterday was vintage Landa, that's vintage Porte right there.

    While most things in cycling are unpredictable, some things are predictable.


  • #120
    [Deleted User]
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    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Ineos will surely let Kwiatkowski win. Long serving team member, might never be in this position again and Carapaz already has kom in the bag.

    He's also out of contract this year with Ineos. If I was him and they told me to ride for Carapaz I'd be thinking long and hard about signing up for more with Ineos.


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  • #121
    joujoujou
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    Kwiatkowski - stage win.

    Carapaz - polka dot jersey.

    Hirschi - red number.

    I hope. ;)


  • #122
    De Bhál
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    fair fcuks to Porte getting back up to the group.

    Good to see Landa moaning


  • #123
    Itziger
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    The Sky lads having an ould chinwag at 60kph. Hehe.


  • #124
    Itziger
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    De Bhál wrote: »
    fair fcuks to Porte getting back up to the group.

    Good to see Landa moaning

    Why the Landa hate? He had a go today at least.

    Porte had a bit of help from the JV lads too.


  • #125
    jack01986
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    Going to be close for the cutoff.


  • #126
    CowboyTed
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    Looks like 36 -37km

    that is 38min

    Sam sitting on 31min and 16km left...

    I say he is sound....


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  • #127
    Cartman78
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    Itziger wrote: »
    The Sky lads having an ould chinwag at 60kph. Hehe.

    They're wavering perilously close to each other!!

    Can't imagine having a conversation at 40kmph nevermind at 60+ kmph :-)


  • #128
    JazzyJ
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    mr spuckler wrote: »
    26' 42" to Bennett's group :)

    31' now, starting last climb.


  • #129
    Dodge
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    joujoujou wrote: »
    Kwiatkowski - stage win.

    Carapaz - polka dot jersey.

    Hirschi - red number.

    I hope. ;)

    Bingo. Great scenes at the end


  • #130
    Dr. Bre
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    A supporter got very close towards the end


  • #131
    Mefistofelino
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    cut off will be 40:15


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  • #132
    retalivity
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    Need a photo finish for that!


  • #133
    Subpopulus
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    Well, that was a strange finish.


  • #134
    kenmc
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    He's already at 31, with a climb to do :(


  • #135
    Dodge
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    Cut off is 40:16

    We should be grand


  • #136
    donfers
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    kenmc wrote: »
    He's already at 31, with a climb to do :(

    it's an uncategorised climb and then it's 10km of descent, and he has 8 or 9 minutes in hand, get the cigar out Sam


  • #137
    retalivity
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    Ineos would be great craic if they had the same riders but took the sunweb approach to just fcuk the GC.


  • #138
    De Bhál
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    Itziger wrote: »
    Why the Landa hate? He had a go today at least.

    Porte had a bit of help from the JV lads too.

    Movistar movie on Netflix and he came across a bit of a pain in the hole


  • #139
    Inquitus
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    CowboyTed wrote: »
    Looks like 36 -37km

    that is 38min

    Sam sitting on 31min and 16km left...

    I say he is sound....

    That works out at a 112kph avg required.

    7 mins to do 16km


  • #140
    WH BONNEY
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    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    A supporter got very close towards the end

    I taught the Gendarmerie was going for his gun :eek:


  • #141
    De Bhál
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    WH BONNEY wrote: »
    I taught the Gendarmerie was going for his gun :eek:

    I was hoping it was Carapazes dad or something, the state of him.


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  • #142
    CowboyTed
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    That works out at a 112kph avg required.

    7 mins to do 16km

    He can loose 40.1 min on the stage... (refined)

    He was down 31min at the last time I checked with 16km left...

    That means he can loose 9 min more over 16km... So he has what the winner completed in plus 9min...


  • #143
    Keeks
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    That works out at a 112kph avg required.

    7 mins to do 16km

    Do the math again.....


  • #144
    happytramp
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    That works out at a 112kph avg required.

    7 mins to do 16km

    Only if he stops cycling for the next 31min.


  • #145
    kenmc
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    How many points available in the stage tmw and Sunday? Assuming worst case and Sam scores no more, and Sagan gets them all....?


  • #146
    Inquitus
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    Keeks wrote: »
    Do the math again.....

    Speed = distance / time

    X = 16 / (7/60)

    X = 16 / 0.11666

    X = 137kph

    Based off
    CowboyTed wrote: »
    Looks like 36 -37km

    that is 38min

    Sam sitting on 31min and 16km left...

    I say he is sound....


  • #147
    [Deleted User]
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    As of now they have 36 minutes according to the on screen clock.


  • #148
    kenmc
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    kenmc wrote: »
    How many points available in the stage tmw and Sunday? Assuming worst case and Sam scores no more, and Sagan gets them all....?

    Answer my own question ; looks like potentially 140, 2xintermediate sprints @20 and 2xstage win tmw and in Paris @50.

    I excluded the itt from that, same points as intermediate sprint, 20


  • #149
    Inquitus
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    As of now they have 36 minutes according to the on screen clock.

    That makes alot more sense.


  • #150
    happytramp
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    kenmc wrote: »
    How many points available in the stage tmw and Sunday? Assuming worst case and Sam scores no more, and Sagan gets them all....?

    20 at the intermediate
    50 at the final

    In theory, Sagan could end up 18 points ahead of Sam going to Paris.


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  • #151
    odyssey06
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    Sagan and Nico Roche rolling home same bunch... 28 mins after winner.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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