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Tour de France 2020 | Stage 18 (Méribel - La Roche-sur-Foron, 175 km)

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  • 17-09-2020 6:58am
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    Registered Users Posts: 13,734 ✭✭✭✭


    D-Day. This would have been even better as Stage 20, but it's still the most sawtoothed profile of the race... and, in my opinion, the queen stage.

    Not much to say but this stage is fecking brutal, can't see a change in the GC, but the break and the time limit could well be interesting if it is raced hard.

    Allez Sam!

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    Map

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    Profile

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    Timetable (Local French Time)

    Neutralised start: 12:05

    Start: 12:30

    Intermediate sprint: 12:51/12:52/12:53

    Cormet de Roselend: 13:59/14:04/14:12

    Côte de la route des Villes: 14:28/14:34/14:44

    Col des Saisies: 15:14/15:24/15:38

    Col des Aravis: 15:54/16:06/16:22

    Montée du plateau des Glières: 16:31/16:46/17:05

    Finish: 17:12/17:28/17:50



    Climbs

    The intermediate sprint comes extremely early into the stage and so the start should be furious. The spike on the profile is obviously BS, but there's still some climbing just after the flag drops.

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    The first climb of the day is the Cormet de Roselend. Even if this is it's slightly easier side, it's still a solid climb, the breakaway will probably be formed here. There's no real flat from here onwards.

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    The riders will take a short detour towards the end of it's descent, to climb the Côte de la Route des Villes, the first 3.1k of the profile below.

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    It's immediately followed by the Col des Saisies. How this is a cat. 2 and the next is a cat. 1 is beyond me...

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    ...because Aravis is twice as easy.

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    The wall that is the climb to Glières will make or break the day. It should be the last chance for anyone who's not Roglic to take time, let's hope this - and the stage - is raced accordingly...

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    There's still one uncategorised climb remaining, the Col des Fleuries. The ascent and descent are very similar, consistently at 4-5%.

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    The descent continues into the final kilometer before the road heads slightly uphill to the finish.

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    General classification after Stage 17

    Primoz Roglic (slo)
    Tadej Pogacar (slo) + 0.57
    Miguel Ángel López + 1.26
    Richie Porte + 3.05
    Adam Yates + 3.14
    Rigoberto Uran + 3.24
    Mikel Landa + 3.27
    Enric Mas + 4.18
    Tom Dumoulin + 7.23
    Alejandro Valverde + 9.31

    Points classification after Stage 17

    Sam Bennett 278
    Peter Sagan 231
    Matteo Trentin 218
    Bryan Coquard 171
    Caleb Ewan 158

    Mountains classification after Stage 17

    Tadej Pogacar 66
    Primoz Roglic 63
    Miguel Ángel López 51
    Benoît Cosnefroy 36
    Pierre Rolland 36

    Young riders classification after Stage 17

    Tadej Pogacar
    Enric Mas + 3.21
    Valentin Madouas + 1.24.17
    Daniel Felipe Martinez + 1.48.51
    Lennard Kämna + 1.52.47


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Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    That evil little bump shown at around 6-7 km into the stage doesn't actually exist. The race goes through a tunnel but the profile is based on the mountain overhead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭Keeks


    From PCS....doesn't show the bump at the start
    But still all uphill to the sprint.....

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Anyone who did the Etape in 2018 and 2019 will be familiar with most of these climbs. A savage route!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,293 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Sam could nearly close off Sagan, if DQS hold it together to the sprint and repeat the 1-2? 52 point lead, even if Sagan got all from tomorrow?

    Then it becomes about the time limit today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 363 ✭✭no_4


    The sprint comes at only 14km in, it should be the easiest day in theory for Sam to maximise points over Sagan , and then survive the time cut after all the mountain S


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭happytramp


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    Sam could nearly close off Sagan, if DQS hold it together to the sprint and repeat the 1-2? 52 point lead, even if Sagan got all from tomorrow?

    Then it becomes about the time limit today.

    Theoretically, if Sagan were to drop Sam early tomorrow he could gain a total of 70 points from the intermediate and final. Putting Sagan 18 ahead going to Paris.


  • Registered Users Posts: 953 ✭✭✭Tim76


    happytramp wrote: »
    Theoretically, if Sagan were to drop Sam early tomorrow he could gain a total of 70 points from the intermediate and final. Putting Sagan 18 ahead going to Paris.

    I wouldn't be counting any poulettes just yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭Keeks


    happytramp wrote: »
    Theoretically, if Sagan were to drop Sam early tomorrow he could gain a total of 70 points from the intermediate and final. Putting Sagan 18 ahead going to Paris.

    is it not only 30 points at the finish tomorrow....it is a hilly stage and not a flat stage....

    so would only gain 50 tomorrow if he won both stage and sprint?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    Should we be worried about Sam and cut off time on this stage. Looks absolutely brutally hard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,293 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Keeks wrote: »
    is it not only 30 points at the finish tomorrow....it is a hilly stage and not a flat stage....

    so would only gain 50 tomorrow if he won both stage and sprint?
    That was my assumption too, but just looked and it is down as flat, so happytramp is right.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭Keeks


    bazermc wrote: »
    Should we be worried about Sam and cut off time on this stage. Looks absolutely brutally hard.

    No...he is with a quality team who know what they are doing....they will have that calculated to the second....


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,810 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    21 Km neutral #sake

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭happytramp


    I feel BORA are putting all their eggs in the basket for tomorrow's stage and getting max points for Sagan and then hoping Sam doesn't come first in Paris... that'll probably be enough to put Sagan in green.

    That said, trying to control tomorrow's stage to the extent that Sagan is first past the post at the intermediate and finish line will be a monumental task.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭ratracer


    Morkov getting the troops ready for the quick battle!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 363 ✭✭no_4


    I agree on both counts
    happytramp wrote: »
    I feel BORA are putting all their eggs in the basket for tomorrow's stage and getting max points for Sagan and then hoping Sam doesn't come first in Paris... that'll probably be enough to put Sagan in green.

    That said, trying to control tomorrow's stage to the extent that Sagan is first past the post at the intermediate and finish line will be a monumental task.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭ratracer


    Looks like Sam has Bob Jungels with him, Sagan has no one..


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,064 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    ratracer wrote: »
    Looks like Sam has Bob Jungels with him, Sagan has no one..

    Think Bora only realising that now....


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can't recall a Grand Tour were I was nervous for intermediate sprints. Easy for Sam. Job done for the day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    Full points for Sam in the intermediate

    Trentin 2nd
    Sagan 3rd


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,064 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    2 more points gained on Sagan, good stuff


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Job done. Sam wins. Trentin second. Sagan third

    Now to make the cut off and it’s a great day


  • Registered Users Posts: 953 ✭✭✭Tim76


    Sagan looks like he's not too bothered!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    retalivity wrote: »
    2 more points gained on Sagan, good stuff

    5 gained on Sagan. 3 on Trentin

    Lead is now 52 points for Sam


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭mcgratheoin


    retalivity wrote: »
    2 more points gained on Sagan, good stuff

    5 points gained - it's 20, 17, 15 for the first 3 across the line


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Tim76 wrote: »
    Sagan looks like he's not too bothered!

    No love lost between him and Bennett at all, Trentin was quick to acknowledge Bennett straight after the sprint.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,810 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    At least Trentin acknowledged Sam

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sam flicking the elbow like mad at De Gendt there to come through as he struggled to hold on to the mini sky train before he pulled out of the line :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    where was Morkov today? The guy has been sensational all tour in leading out Sam and taking points off his competitors...first time I haven't seem him at an intermediate sprint in a while


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    donfers wrote: »
    where was Morkov today? The guy has been sensational all tour in leading out Sam and taking points off his competitors...first time I haven't seem him at an intermediate sprint in a while

    I assume they wanted Jungles in the break so two birds maybe.

    EDIT: Morkov out the back with Ewan there I see.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    First of two jobs done for Sam, now just to finish within time limit.

    Can't see Sagan winning tomorrow or in Paris.


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