Tour de France 2020 general thread (SPOILERS GALORE)

breezy1985 · 16-09-2020 12:13pm

Tim76 wrote: »

Did a Eurosport commentator mention yesterday that Sean Kelly referred to the Pogacar v Roglic battle as the Podge & Rodge Show?

I tried to skip back on the player but the iPad wouldn't let me. Anyway, I'm sure the reference was lost on most of the Eurosport audience

Ya he did. Pronounced Pog & Rog show but still funny

breezy1985 · 16-09-2020 12:14pm

Bambaata wrote: »

Is there anywhere that has details of all the sprint points on offer by stage/by sprint etc?

Wikipedia have it

Inquitus · 16-09-2020 12:14pm

Bambaata wrote: »

Is there anywhere that has details of all the sprint points on offer by stage/by sprint etc?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Points_classification_in_the_Tour_de_France#Current

That gives the rules, and letour.fr will show you stage by stage where the intermediate sprints are.

16-09-2020 1:00pm

procyclingstats have it too. Great site you should bookmark if you are unfamiliar with it.

mcgratheoin · 16-09-2020 2:43pm

Had a quick scan of Strava today after the mountains stage - was interested to see what life looks like in the grupetto. Pretty bloody fast!!! :eek:

Bryan Coquard's Grupetto ride

py · 16-09-2020 4:19pm

Sagan’s green jersey hopes are still alive, but fading.

Eamonnator · 16-09-2020 8:23pm

Moviestar are 1/33 favourite to win the Moviestar Team prize.

py · 16-09-2020 8:45pm

Looking back on Sam's exit from Bora, you'd wonder if his presence at the tour was something that concerned them and why they dragged their feet on releasing him.

f1000 · 16-09-2020 9:16pm

py wrote: »

Looking back on Sam's exit from Bora, you'd wonder if his presence at the tour was something that concerned them and why they dragged their feet on releasing him.

I'd always thought that the team felt like he would not finish a grand tour and held him back until he was ready. How wrong was me

Weepsie · 16-09-2020 9:34pm

Specialized were paying a rather big sum to make sure Sagan was at the tour

magicbastarder · 16-09-2020 9:48pm

Inquitus wrote: »

Have you read Sean's Autobiography Hunger? Would highly recommend.

I thought it was deathly dull...

CantGetNoSleep · 16-09-2020 9:49pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

Moviestar are 1/33 favourite to win the Moviestar Team prize.

People were talking earlier in the thread about scrapping the white jersey (which I don't agree with, having Bernal and Pogacar as a genuine GC contender while eligible for the white jersey is probably the first time in the last 10 years or so since Quintana), but the team prize seems absolutely meaningless

CrowdedHouse · 16-09-2020 9:55pm

What bugs me is wearing a jersey you don't own because some other lad has a higher priority one.

Mefistofelino · 16-09-2020 10:09pm

dinneenp wrote: »

Began reading this humourous book about an average guy cycling the Tour route by himself. Kind of like Bill Bryson's style
French Revolutions

Moore has written a few more cycling books " Gironimo" (about riding the route of the 1914 Giro on a vintage bike) and " The cyclist who went out in the cold", about riding along the Iron Curtain.

breezy1985 · 16-09-2020 10:12pm

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

People were talking earlier in the thread about scrapping the white jersey (which I don't agree with, having Bernal and Pogacar as a genuine GC contender while eligible for the white jersey is probably the first time in the last 10 years or so since Quintana), but the team prize seems absolutely meaningless

Movistar are obsessed with it because the sponsors want it but I dont know another single team that cares.

I hate how the rider in 2nd nurses a jersey if the guy in 1st has 2 jerseys but again its down to sponsors paying to have 20 stages worth of jerseys in view

breezy1985 · 16-09-2020 10:16pm

Mefistofelino wrote: »

Moore has written a few more cycling books " Gironimo" (about riding the route of the 2014 Giro on a vintage bike) and " The cyclist who went out in the cold", about riding along the Iron Curtain.

havent read it yet but "Riding in the Zone Rouge: The Tour of the Battlefields 1919" about a race through the WW1 battlefields. Crazy thing about the Zone Rouge is it an area in France that its still illegal to build a house or farm because of all the toxins and bombs from WW1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_Rouge

Weepsie · 16-09-2020 10:31pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

havent read it yet but "Riding in the Zone Rouge: The Tour of the Battlefields 1919" about a race through the WW1 battlefields. Crazy thing about the Zone Rouge is it an area in France that its still illegal to build a house or farm because of all the toxins and bombs from WW1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_Rouge

I started reading this. It's a quasi fictional account of what the author think may have happened as the vast majority of the sources have been lost to the ravages of war.

In my recollection this was not apparent when it first came out so I felt a bit shortchanged .

It is available from public libraries though, but not my branch

Inquitus · 17-09-2020 7:26am

We Were Young and Carefree: The Autobiography of Laurent Fignon, the English translation is well worth a read.

breezy1985 · 17-09-2020 8:14am

Has anyone here read G.Martins Socrates a Velo ?

geotrig · 17-09-2020 8:27am

breezy1985 wrote: »

Movistar are obsessed with it because the sponsors want it but I dont know another single team that cares.

I hate how the rider in 2nd nurses a jersey if the guy in 1st has 2 jerseys but again its down to sponsors paying to have 20 stages worth of jerseys in view

I was in total shock earlier in the tour when they were not in 1st place in it .....but then they got it back so all good was worried that covid had thrown everything out of whack in this tour

neris · 17-09-2020 8:39am

breezy1985 wrote: »

havent read it yet but "Riding in the Zone Rouge: The Tour of the Battlefields 1919" about a race through the WW1 battlefields. Crazy thing about the Zone Rouge is it an area in France that its still illegal to build a house or farm because of all the toxins and bombs from WW1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_Rouge

Sure the farmers in parts of France and Belgium where the war was fought regularly plough up ammunition and explosives. Paris roubaix isn't called the hell of the north cause is a hard race

qwabercd · 17-09-2020 8:43am

The death of Marco Pantani probably my favourite cycling related book. Also enjoyed the slaying the badger, domestique and a few others already mentioned. Must give the Fignon one a read.

Shedite27 · 17-09-2020 8:56am

I found Full Gas, very interesting. Book about the tactics of bike racing

Macy0161 · 17-09-2020 9:16am

In my experience, you can pretty much rely on any Peter Cossins book!

breezy1985 · 17-09-2020 9:20am

Inquitus wrote: »

We Were Young and Carefree: The Autobiography of Laurent Fignon, the English translation is well worth a read.

Seems an odd name for a cycling autobiography but very Fignon I suppose

geotrig · 17-09-2020 10:00am

like the full gas book cover :cool:

Mefistofelino · 17-09-2020 10:18am

Inquitus wrote: »

We Were Young and Carefree: The Autobiography of Laurent Fignon, the English translation is well worth a read.

Great book but it shares a certain similarity with David Millar's "Racing Through The Dark" in that the author is unwilling to accept personal responsibility for anything that goes wrong

Race goes well: - It was me and only me. No-one else. What team?
Race goes badly: - It was entirely someone else's fault

donfers · 17-09-2020 10:35am

I want to get this one, not available for a while though:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/God-Dead-Vandenbroucke-Cyclings-Wasted/dp/1787631206/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Tim76 · 17-09-2020 12:16pm

Looking forward to the Bob Jungels autobiography myself, The Jungel Book.

dastardly00 · 17-09-2020 12:36pm

Tim76 wrote: »

Looking forward to the Bob Jungels autobiography myself, The Jungel Book.

Hmmmm.... That sounds like something Carlton Kirby would say!

neris · 17-09-2020 1:09pm

See the Giro Rossa started in a shopping centre today. Next year's TDF stage 1 to finish in the freezer aisle of the local Carrefour

breezy1985 · 17-09-2020 1:43pm

neris wrote: »

See the Giro Rossa started in a shopping centre today. Next year's TDF stage 1 to finish in the freezer aisle of the local Carrefour

TdF started in a shopping centre is Brussels a few years back

REBELSAFC · 18-09-2020 2:27pm

After three weeks staring at the Lidl on the Quickstep arses and arms, I've just noticed the Crivit on the kit. Surely Lidl don't supply the kit for DQS???

breezy1985 · 18-09-2020 2:28pm

REBELSAFC wrote: »

After three weeks staring at the Lidl on the Quickstep arses and arms, I've just noticed the Crivit on the kit. Surely Lidl don't supply the kit for DQS???

Probably a rebrand. It happens a fair bit with the bikes

Macy0161 · 18-09-2020 2:47pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

Probably a rebrand

Not even - they're made and branded as vermarc. It's just (effective?) advertising.

REBELSAFC · 18-09-2020 2:54pm

So we won't be getting CrivitPRO Sam Bennet signed green jerseys in the middle isle of Lidl next week?

Boscoirl · 18-09-2020 3:01pm

yo can get the other national champion jerseys on their team shop site, but not the Irish one

breezy1985 · 18-09-2020 3:36pm

REBELSAFC wrote: »

So we won't be getting CrivitPRO Sam Bennet signed green jerseys in the middle isle of Lidl next week?

Pity there isn't any posters or cutouts of Sam around Lidl. I know cycling isn't big here but it's an easy cash in for them.

Would be great if the closest Lidl to Carrick on Suir will have those awful looking window paintings like Supermacs have for the hurling

breezy1985 · 18-09-2020 3:38pm

Boscoirl wrote: »

yo can get the other national champion jerseys on their team shop site, but not the Irish one

You can buy it on the Vermarc site.
But nat. champions kits should be earned not bought

deise08 · 18-09-2020 5:33pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

Pity there isn't any posters or cutouts of Sam around Lidl. I know cycling isn't big here but it's an easy cash in for them.

Would be great if the closest Lidl to Carrick on Suir will have those awful looking window paintings like Supermacs have for the hurling

How haven't we thought of it already?
Let's tweet @lidl.
They're great at responding.

neris · 18-09-2020 6:02pm

Great, the 1st Saturday in years I'm going to be able watch the last Saturday of the Tour and its feckin TT. **** you level 3 restrictions

neris · 18-09-2020 6:04pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

Pity there isn't any posters or cutouts of Sam around Lidl. I know cycling isn't big here but it's an easy cash in for them.

Would be great if the closest Lidl to Carrick on Suir will have those awful looking window paintings like Supermacs have for the hurling

Any Lidl under construction now will be a rushed job to get Sam in to cut the ribbon on the opening

c.p.w.g.w · 18-09-2020 6:30pm

neris wrote: »

Any Lidl under construction now will be a rushed job to get Sam in to cut the ribbon on the opening

Why cut the ribbon...ride through it on his bike

breezy1985 · 18-09-2020 6:51pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Why cut the ribbon...ride through it on his bike

Lidl is the new nissan dealership

c.p.w.g.w · 18-09-2020 8:10pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

Lidl is the new nissan dealership

I don't get it?

Eamonnator · 18-09-2020 8:35pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

I don't get it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_of_Ireland

Tour of Ireland, AKA Nissan International Classic from 1985 to 1992

18-09-2020 9:44pm

They should definitely tap Lidl for Rás sponsorship after this.

dastardly00 · 18-09-2020 9:53pm

The more I watch the Breakaway show the more I start to think that Wiggins is actually alright on it. He does come out with the odd stupid statement like the bit about claiming Sam, but in general he's okay to listen to.

breezy1985 · 18-09-2020 10:06pm

Eamonnator wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_of_Ireland

Tour of Ireland, AKA Nissan International Classic from 1985 to 1992

CantGetNoSleep · 18-09-2020 10:51pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Why cut the ribbon...ride through it on his bike

Sprint through at 75kmh with a token Slovakian a good bit behind

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