$$$ Does / (Why does?) money matter so much to women ! ? !

Trust me on this OP, as a humble college student, a species notorious for lack of wealth, money, while attractive to some, is not what these wealthy types are presenting.

People who are wealthy get that way for a reason. They are ambitious, they are determined, they know what they want and they are willing to put in the effort. Becoming wealthy is a result of all these personality traits and a visible result for the individual involved, therefore reinforcing these already popular traits and introducing confidence thanks to previous success and a sense of nonchalance about money which removes a massive amount of stress, again making them more attractive people. BUT this does not mean that wealthy people will always succeed in love. love and business aren't the same.

And while you may find it a cliche, it's true, money can't buy happiness. if i were asked to think of the most content people i know, they wouldn't be the richest people i know.

AARRRGH wrote: »

Of course there are exceptions, but as a general rule, women prefer men with money, and men prefer women who are young.

In theory, yes and so the books say. But it often doesn't work out that way. The rule is there is no rule.

AARRRGH wrote: »

Of course there are exceptions, but as a general rule, women prefer men with money, and men prefer women who are young.

AARRRGH wrote: »

We're animals.

Men are attracted to women who are young and healthy -- they can provide healthy babies.
Women are attracted to men who are strong and wealthy -- they can provide healthy babies, security and shelter.

A simple way of looking at this is to compare two clones, one with slightly more money, and one with slightly less money. Which one would the woman pick?

The same goes for penis size Which clone would the women pick? The one with the bigger or smaller penis...?

We're not animals. We're human beings and we have souls and minds and are not governed by instincts. God forbid it all happened exactly as you say or there'd never be any surprises or love or any real joy. In fact it would be quite miserable.

Yes there are indeed people who will only go for much younger women. There are women who will only go for the man with the money. But those people are whats known as shallow and it never really seems to bring them or those around them any happiness. In the main relationships are between people of in and around the same age. And there are millions of couples who are not rich.

I'm not personalising anything or taking offence Aaargh. I was giving my opinions on a debatable topic. Now I don't particularly agree with what you're saying so I'll agree to disagree. I wouldn't say what you're saying is absolute horse, there's something in it as I've already conceeded. And yes I do beleive we have souls. My beleif and my opinion.

There are a whole host of reasons some noble (within reason - i.e a means to an end and not an end in itself), some ignoble.

Generally you will find that most people identify themselves with their job. Not all and it is a bit sad to think that is the principal part of who you are, but an awful lot of people do. There is of course a great dignity in work but it is not who you are as a person. Although in caring or say teaching professions there is a crossover to some extent. In other words peoples image of themselves is very much related to their job. They act or perceive themselves as this even when they are at their own leisure. Like a full time hat they wear so to speak. People in the finance sector therefore eat drink and sleep matters of a monetary nature. They can get somewhat one dimensional ... money makes the world go round and all that and are somewhat blinkered. Get a bit staid, boring & materialistic. Just like accountants, solicitors, estate agents et al.

Women who are not financially independent will be attracted to those men who are good providers. It says they (men) have get up and go are are going places. A dependent woman will want to hang to his coattails. They (men) also have added confidence - the quality that is most attractive to a women. Women who cannot create much of a life for themselves will therefore be most attracted to same. They want a high quality of life and standard of living for themselves and their kids. No one would want a life in the workhouse or always worrying about financial pressures if they could help it. Some women are quite happy to be kept as they do not invest in themselves and don't have much else to live for other than the married with 2.4 kids lifestyle as they are bound by their own self-imposed limitations. If you do not have many hobbies or social interests either they will need a man to occupy their time & minds or give them the tools to have any decent kind of life. At least based on their own limited minds. These kind of materialistic women want a hard working do as i say kind of man. There is a saying power is weakness disguised as strength, so these women have such a fear of losing a good thing, that they have to control it. Men under the thumb and all that.

Then there is the whole issue of self worth, self image and self esteem. People who are reared in urban environments with no appreciation of the countryside or nature tend to grow up in a materialistic or consumer world. They know know better. If they were reared in recessionary times (think of themselves as having a deprived childhood) & with no sense of themselves (lack soul as a lot of people do) they can get obsessed with compensating as adults for the rest of their lives. Designer kitchens, plasma tv's, suv's, foreign holidays etc. Low self-esteem will always get the upper hand over intelligence. Been educated does mean you are emotionally intelligent, an academic maybe but lacking self-knowledge. The lower a persons self-image the more important possessions become. If you do not take pride in yourself (have self respect), people take vain pride in their possessions because they need these thing to feel good about themselves. It cannot satisfy and so they go from one quick fix to the next, never happy. It becomes a will-of-the-wisp kind of thing looking for happiness in all the wrong places. Also you know the type where you hear parents wanting to give their children everything they didn't have as a child even if beyond their means and thinking they are doing good.:rolleyes:

An independent woman is optimal. One with real human values, many hobbies & interests. One for whom a relationship is or would be an important dimension of her life but not the centre of her world. Someone with a job she likes and with an outside passion that fulfils her, exercises, is cultured with a sense of adventure. Because the hello magazine bonehead, celebrity/reality tv obsessed couch potato, shopaholic material girl will do your head in and cannot satisfy.

Saw this thread this morning, tbh women look at money, society, looks as a key to choosing a partner. Its the basics of life! You wont be attracted to a knacker/druggie would you? If that same person cleaned up, has a job and is healthy u may find the person attractive!
It's all in the head but we look at these things when considering a partner. Such is life!

Money Matter ? wrote: »

Marksie, to clarify.

First, I know that all women are not attracted to money. But, in fairness there is no denying that a large proportion (I would say majority) are. Think about popular culture and what you see on a day to day basis - how often do you see wealthy men with model-looking women who you know wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the money ? Again, this post is not an attempt at stirring up an argument about whether all women are . . . simply to ask why the women that are, are?

Secondly, my issue is that it really makes me wonder what it is about money that so attracts. It's confusiong me a bit because like I said, I'm getting so much more interest from the girls I grew up with now (I'm 23 now) and I'm wondering if they're simply attracted to me more because now I can take them out and buy them things or is it just because the fact that I did well for myself and now dress well etc. makes me more attractive (am I getting this across clearly? I hope so). Also, the women I meet around here (I live near Barrow Street) always ask "Where do you work?" " What do you do?" "Do you own/rent?" etc. Whereas when I was growing up or in college it was always "Where are you from?" "Do you know so-and-so?" etc.etc.

I hope this is clear - it's Sunday morning so I did my best ! If not I can clarify further.

Thanks to all those that have / will respond

So far, the answers have been pretty much :

* The hunter / gathererer / provider thing (Animal Instinct)
* Rich men are more confident
* It's because I work in finance (I don't agree with this at all - look at entertainment/sport/property etc.etc.)
* Security

Do you mind me asking why you went into the job you do?

I wonder how many women are involved with wealthy and intelligent psychopaths who are considered the "ideal catch". There is a misconception among people that all psychopaths are criminals and violent maniacs- they're not. Many psychopaths outwardly have all the traits that society deems desirable and admirable. It is actually their psychopathy that actually aids them in getting on in their careers.
They'd never dream of breaking the law but beneath the veneer of moral recitude they lack empathy and don't really give a crap about anyone- including those they are involved with.

irish_bob wrote: »

where did you learn this **** , are you a shrink or have you just watched AMERICAN PSYCHO with christian bale too many times

A cogent rebuttal.
If you think it's **** then i guess it must be so. I defer to your greater knowledge on the matter.