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Milk Price III

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭tanko


    Lakeland April milk price 35.40 c/l inc VAT and a 1 c/l unconditional bonus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Dairygold up 0.5 cent to 34.35 base. 0.65 bonus added after for qa + milk quality


  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Lios67


    37.9 Dairygold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,830 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Lakelands have increased their milk price by 1.6cpl to 36cpl


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    GI base price up 1cpl to 35.18cpl. Glanbia Member May milk price 35.6cpl inc VAT and Share of GI Profit.

    https://www.glanbiaconnect.com/news/glanbia-milk-price-may-2021


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  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭Henwin


    Any word on kerrys milk price. Can't find anything online about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Drinagh up to 36.29 incl vat and scc bonus according to twitter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭oxjkqg


    Henwin wrote: »
    Any word on kerrys milk price. Can't find anything online about it

    35 cent


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Drinagh ,up 1 cent. 36.29 cpl, Includes scc and vat
    Sorry saw moo had it earlier


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte


    oxjkqg wrote: »
    35 cent

    More misleading than leading. Very dissatisfied with that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Arrabawn up 1.25 vat inc to 35.81


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,959 ✭✭✭straight


    Sacrolyte wrote: »
    More misleading than leading. Very dissatisfied with that.

    Your hardly surprised. We'll be due some ball of a 13th payment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,232 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Arrabawn up 1.25 vat inc to 35.81

    remind me again what was the FPS they were offering last January :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    orm0nd wrote: »
    remind me again what was the FPS they were offering last January :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    32 cent I think ….glad I fixed nothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    orm0nd wrote: »
    remind me again what was the FPS they were offering last January :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
    mahoney_j wrote: »
    32 cent I think ….glad I fixed nothing

    It always pays to ride the rhino, you just have to stay onboard

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭alps


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    32 cent I think ….glad I fixed nothing

    31 if you didnt qualify through inputs purchases..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,232 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    alps wrote: »
    31 if you didnt qualify through inputs purchases..

    Which would cost you a lot more than 1c/ltr.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    orm0nd wrote: »
    Which would cost you a lot more than 1c/ltr.

    Both of ye are right on both ,the having to purchase the inputs to get 32 just turned me right off as I wouldn’t of qualified as buy practically no feed through them they were competitive for fertiliser earlier in year but not at races currently I hear and all the usual issues including price remain with feed ……the shop in Tyone is also an absolute rob ….more interested in flowers snd all that stuff than what should be there core business ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭alps


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Both of ye are right on both ,the having to purchase the inputs to get 32 just turned me right off as I wouldn’t of qualified as buy practically no feed through them they were competitive for fertiliser earlier in year but not at races currently I hear and all the usual issues including price remain with feed ……the shop in Tyone is also an absolute rob ….more interested in flowers snd all that stuff than what should be there core business ,

    Its a concept that should be resisted on all levels. It subsidises inefficient sales practices. If farmer owned business cannot compete with private enterprise, they serve the farmer badly by forming any compulsion to buy..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    alps wrote: »
    Its a concept that should be resisted on all levels. It subsidises inefficient sales practices. If farmer owned business cannot compete with private enterprise, they serve the farmer badly by forming any compulsion to buy..

    Fully agree on that ,I’m ok with fixing a portion of milk as lot of commitements atm but not with a caveat like that thrown in .saying that even without that extra thrown in to our last fixed scheme I wouldn’t of fixed any milk at that price


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,830 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    It always pays to ride the rhino, you just have to stay onboard

    It's very rare recently that the fixed price is any better than the normal price. Lads must be down a fair whack this last few months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    whelan2 wrote: »
    It's very rare recently that the fixed price is any better than the normal price. Lads must be down a fair whack this last few months

    I've been paying insurance on cars, tractors, a house and farm with 30 years and never claimed for a cent. But I'll still keep paying to have it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    The idea of fixed prices are fine, once it's just the amount sold and bought is fixed. Any external influence on that makes it a load of bollox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Dairygold up to 35.1c base, plus 0.65c Q& S bonuses


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Dairygold up to 35.1c base, plus 0.65c Q& S bonuses

    So that's 35.75 plus solids?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,261 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Dairygold up to 35.1c base, plus 0.65c Q& S bonuses

    What are dairygolds quality bonuses Mooooo? My last two tbc here were 2 & 4. Average SCC for the last 6 weeks would be about 45 but no bonuses for these with Glanbia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    So that's 35.75 plus solids?

    Solids adjustment is carried out at 35.1. The 0.65 is just added after, if you get it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Grueller wrote: »
    What are dairygolds quality bonuses Mooooo? My last two tbc here were 2 & 4. Average SCC for the last 6 weeks would be about 45 but no bonuses for these with Glanbia.

    .1 is for QA bord bia, .15 is for milk recording and health screening and then a scorecard is used for the 0.4 for milk quality. A full score card is 55 points, above 50 will get you the full 0.4c I think and it drops with lower the score on the scorecard, scc is worth 20 points if below 200, 200 to 250 is 15 points and so on, the other 30 are split amongst tbc, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Grueller wrote: »
    What are dairygolds quality bonuses Mooooo? My last two tbc here were 2 & 4. Average SCC for the last 6 weeks would be about 45 but no bonuses for these with Glanbia.

    Excellent quality there, my scc has gone up to 120 but have found the two culprits. Tbc generally around the 5 mark. Thermo has been highish but an issue with hot water I think is that problem. Must powerwash the parlour and change liners as well in the next week or two


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  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Lios67


    39.14 Dairygold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Lios67 wrote: »
    39.14 Dairygold

    What solids? great price, cent and a bit ahead of me. Bf is my main issue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,830 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    What are strathroy paying atm?


  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Lios67


    3.94 bf 3.59 pr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    whelan2 wrote: »
    What are strathroy paying atm?

    Don't know but usually 1c ahead of glanbia

    I've heard from a few ppl in the last while that they too are tight for processing capacity at peak


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    May 21

    42.4cpl
    4.31 bf
    3.88pr

    Vs

    May 20
    33.96 cpl
    4.24 bf
    3.74pr

    Quite a substantial difference in what total value of both milk cheques were!
    Costs are up between meal and fert so well needed!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Lios67


    May 21

    42.4cpl
    4.31 bf
    3.88pr

    Vs

    May 20
    33.96 cpl
    4.24 bf
    3.74pr

    Quite a substantial difference in what total value of both milk cheques were!
    Costs are up between meal and fert so well needed!

    Excellent figures, well done


  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Lios67


    May 21

    42.4cpl
    4.31 bf
    3.88pr

    Vs

    May 20
    33.96 cpl
    4.24 bf
    3.74pr

    Quite a substantial difference in what total value of both milk cheques were!
    Costs are up between meal and fert so well needed!

    Excellent figures, well done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    3.69 bf, 3.59p 85scc 37.94. Big improvement on last year but an extra circa 1800 spent on meal on the same month. Dairygold and glanbia could well do with upping the base price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,959 ✭✭✭straight


    Everybody seems to love talking about percentages and cents per litre. But what about how many kgms per cow. Low percentages and cents here due to the dilution effect of high litres. It probably all works out to be the same thing in the end.
    Also I think it's gas that every supplier seems to expect the farmer to protect their margins. Man told me recently his contractor couldn't give him a price for first cut until he works it out at the end of the season. 15% dairy nuts @ 315 per ton. 18-6-12 @ 395 per ton.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,757 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    straight wrote: »
    Everybody seems to love talking about percentages and cents per litre. But what about how many kgms per cow. Low percentages and cents here due to the dilution effect of high litres. It probably all works out to be the same thing in the end.
    Also I think it's gas that every supplier seems to expect the farmer to protect their margins. Man told me recently his contractor couldn't give him a price for first cut until he works it out at the end of the season. 15% dairy nuts @ 315 per ton. 18-6-12 @ 395 per ton.

    Contractor pulled the above on us one year and decided to up rates by 20 euro a acre when doing final bill, came to a few extra k on bill, havent used him since, was getting the guts of 30k a years work up to that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    On the solids, my BF figures for the year have matched what the ebi predicts so have been breeding to improve it. This years first calvers have higher than the herd average bf so slowly getting there. P much more a grass issue, always have a drop in June so must work better in that front, obv weather this year has made it difficult but has happened most other years as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    straight wrote: »
    Everybody seems to love talking about percentages and cents per litre. But what about how many kgms per cow. Low percentages and cents here due to the dilution effect of high litres. It probably all works out to be the same thing in the end.
    Also I think it's gas that every supplier seems to expect the farmer to protect their margins. Man told me recently his contractor couldn't give him a price for first cut until he works it out at the end of the season. 15% dairy nuts @ 315 per ton. 18-6-12 @ 395 per ton.
    Dad was very focused on solids his whole career milking and I'm lucky to have them
    I've been putting some milk back into the herd the last 5 years or so
    Starting to see the returns now

    Me personally I would prefer the way we have it than have lower solids abd milkier cows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    What difference is there in management of high volume low solids versus low volume high solid if both have equal amount of solids .I presume they both need the same maintenance


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    straight wrote: »
    Everybody seems to love talking about percentages and cents per litre. But what about how many kgms per cow. Low percentages and cents here due to the dilution effect of high litres. It probably all works out to be the same thing in the end.

    I regularly have the same argument here. At 3.53/3.44 solids, I'm not far off the bottom 10%. But on the whole, I got €359 per cow for the month with €59 going to the feed merchant. That sounds better to me, don't know how it would relate to other people. But that's the metric I choose to use anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    All about kgms sold ,cent litre is the past I’ve a preference for high volume good% and about 620 kgms out the gate I also want a saleable calf and good cull cow value ,far from just beer money .fertility has to be a cornerstone too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    I regularly have the same argument here. At 3.53/3.44 solids, I'm not far off the bottom 10%. But on the whole, I got €359 per cow for the month with €59 going to the feed merchant. That sounds better to me, don't know how it would relate to other people. But that's the metric I choose to use anyway

    Our milk cheque is on kg fat plus kg protein and a minus for water …..not %fat + % protein


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,959 ✭✭✭straight


    I regularly have the same argument here. At 3.53/3.44 solids, I'm not far off the bottom 10%. But on the whole, I got €359 per cow for the month with €59 going to the feed merchant. That sounds better to me, don't know how it would relate to other people. But that's the metric I choose to use anyway

    Makes much more sense. I'd say the co-ops love to hear lads delighted with their cents per litre. Bottom line divided by number of cows here or kgms per cow per day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    straight wrote: »
    Makes much more sense. I'd say the co-ops love to hear lads delighted with their cents per litre. Bottom line divided by number of cows here or kgms per cow per day.

    Sure tis no different than lads being delighted with there litres
    I was just showing the difference in milk price received with the milk price increase aswell as the solids for similar litres to last may

    We sold just short of 550kg last year
    Running a bit a head of themselves over sane tike last year, if they do 550 again I'll be happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,959 ✭✭✭straight


    Sure tis no different than lads being delighted with there litres
    I was just showing the difference in milk price received with the milk price increase aswell as the solids for similar litres to last may

    We sold just short of 550kg last year
    Running a bit a head of themselves over sane tike last year, if they do 550 again I'll be happy

    I didn't mean anything against your point in particular. I do have a thing about lads being happy with cents per litre though when it's all earned and deserved. The milk price should be double if you ask me. I know it feels good to achieve great results same as me with my litres, its what keeps us all going. Ya, cows are flying. An old lad said to me the other day it'll balance out before the year is up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Lios67


    38.92 3.89 bf. 3.59 pr dairygold



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