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tennessee time · 23-10-2010 6:16pm

sean mac diarmada tonight, what a brilliant series

man1 · 24-10-2010 11:33am

tennessee time wrote: »

sean mac diarmada tonight, what a brilliant series

Just a few minutes into the sean mac diarmada episode and there is a scene in a bar in belfast where mac diarmada meets bulmer hobson and dennis mccullough for the first time and it has a few mistakes.
All three were about 21 years old when they met in belfast at the time macdiarmada was working in the bar but in the documentary mccullough looks about fifty years old, hobson appears in his late thirties/early forties and mac diarmada looks in his late twenties.
Maybe I am just being too picky but did anyone else notice this, surely the researchers would have known this or were they just hoping no-one would notice or even worse did they not know???
There are a huge amount of inaccuracies concerning bulmer hobson throughout many histories of this period and this is another one. Hobson was one of the architects of the new found nationalism at that time so surely he deserves more. How would you feel if in the documentary connolly was show as an 18 year old or pearse as a 70 year old??
I know their perceived age in the programme is not really that relevent but it just annoys me that they could make such a mistake. Ok rant over.....:(

JohnFalstaff · 27-10-2010 11:33pm

Anybody see tonight's episode? I thought it was possibly the strongest in the series yet. It focused on the role played by Eamonn Ceannt in the 1916 Rising and raised some very interesting questions by comparing the actions of these men with contemporary islamic suicide bombers and the like.

There were some great scenes based around the fighting at the South Dublin Union. Powerful stuff.

delta_bravo · 28-10-2010 12:14am

Yeah the Ceannt episode was very good. He is one of the least known signatories but appears to have been one of the most effective leaders during the rising

wolfpawnat · 28-10-2010 8:19am

Yes, I knew very little about Ceannt until last nights episode. A fantastic episode!

Also a good bit about Brugha, got to give it to the man, he was ballsy!!!!

shanew · 28-10-2010 8:38am

good episode last night... other than his name, signature on the proclamation, and execution ..I hadn't heard much about Eamonn before.. very interesting

Shane

mikemac · 28-10-2010 1:35pm

I also didn't know much about Ceannt. Just he had a Galway connection
He was a fine officer and led his men through tough fighting

I wouldn't have thought WT Cosgrave would look so scruffy :P
He's the very opposite and always well dressed later in government

Qualitymark · 28-10-2010 1:43pm

There's a good book on Ceannt by Paul O'Brien - it was going for a fiver in the bookshop in Grafton Street recently. Gripping. The same writer has a great book on the Mount Street Bridge action.

walrusgumble · 28-10-2010 4:22pm

Qualitymark wrote: »

There's a good book on Ceannt by Paul O'Brien - it was going for a fiver in the bookshop in Grafton Street recently. Gripping. The same writer has a great book on the Mount Street Bridge action.

I think that same fellow has just released a book on the fighting at the South Dublin Union also, where WT was based.

salutations · 31-10-2010 10:00pm

Ceannt's was brilliant. Every time I watch an epsiode the hairs on the back of the neck stand up. Awesomely done TG4. What did ye think of the Galway Ceannt biographer describing the woman at the 1916 commemoration in Eyre Square saying 'they died for nothing' and bemoaning the current state of the country. Is that the first time they let a comment like that through. I agreed with her sentiments though when you see the sacrifices these men made and the present sickening incumbents of the government.

JohnFalstaff · 31-10-2010 11:35pm

salutations wrote: »

Ceannt's was brilliant. Every time I watch an epsiode the hairs on the back of the neck stand up. Awesomely done TG4. What did ye think of the Galway Ceannt biographer describing the woman at the 1916 commemoration in Eyre Square saying 'they died for nothing' and bemoaning the current state of the country. Is that the first time they let a comment like that through. I agreed with her sentiments though when you see the sacrifices these men made and the present sickening incumbents of the government.

I went looking for a Ceannt biography after having viewed this episode and ended up buying the one written by the author featured. His name is William Henry and the book is called Supreme Sacrifice. I would recommend it to anyone interested in reading more about Ceannt or the Easter Rising in general.

I have been following this series since the beginning and you are right in pointing out that this was the first time any reference was made to the current state of the country. It summed up exactly how I feel and I am glad the makers of this series decided to include it. I am sure many other people in the country feel the same way. I felt a mixture of anger and sadness at what we have come to - our public representatives, and we in general, have become more concerned with feathering our own nests than cultivating a worthwhile society. Although maybe this is nothing new.

Notorious97 · 04-11-2010 3:42pm

Il check that book on Ceannt out too. Brilliant series, does anybody know if this will be released on DVD or if i can watch it again start to finish anywhere?

mikemac · 04-11-2010 4:11pm

In most episodes you see people giving speeches on a bandstand in a park.

Anyone know which park this is? I can't quite place it

Qualitymark · 04-11-2010 4:21pm

Notorious97 wrote: »

Il check that book on Ceannt out too. Brilliant series, does anybody know if this will be released on DVD or if i can watch it again start to finish anywhere?

Don't know about the DVD possibility, but it's online on tg4.tv

mikemac · 04-11-2010 4:32pm

http://beo.tg4.ie/main.aspx?level=1916

AbuMedia · 18-11-2010 6:19pm

Hi There,

Thanks to all for watching the show. The series will be released on DVD but not in time for Christmas. If you would like to pre-order a copy of the set you can send an email with your name, address and phone to 1916@abumedia.com, and we will contact you with details of the DVD release! Thanks for the support,

Abú Media

@feelingstressed - The bandstand is in the Phoenix Park...near the Zoo and the Peoples park! Hope that clears it up for you

AbuMedia · 18-11-2010 6:20pm

feelingstressed wrote: »

In most episodes you see people giving speeches on a bandstand in a park.

Anyone know which park this is? I can't quite place it

I replied in my last post but the banstand is in the Phoenix Park

AbuMedia · 18-11-2010 6:23pm

Qualitymark wrote: »

I hope they bring the series out on DVD.

Hi There,

Thanks to all for watching the show. The series will be released on DVD but not in time for Christmas. If you would like to pre-order a copy of the set you can send an email with your name, address and phone to 1916@abumedia.com, and we will contact you with details of the DVD release! Thanks for the support,

Abú Media

flas · 18-11-2010 6:30pm

delta_bravo wrote: »

On TG4 now, hopefully its decent. At the start of it it mentioned the occupations of the 7 signatories. One was referred to as "a cripple". Was that Ceannt?

mcdiarmadia was referred to as the cripple, eye witness accounts from the time have the military commander(some dublin man who was in british army, and who was drunk) who took over minding the rebels the night of the surrender remark "oh you have cripples in your fine army" or something along these lines! .

MarchDub · 19-11-2010 5:30am

salutations wrote: »

Ceannt's was brilliant. Every time I watch an epsiode the hairs on the back of the neck stand up. Awesomely done TG4. What did ye think of the Galway Ceannt biographer describing the woman at the 1916 commemoration in Eyre Square saying 'they died for nothing' and bemoaning the current state of the country. Is that the first time they let a comment like that through. I agreed with her sentiments though when you see the sacrifices these men made and the present sickening incumbents of the government.

It is a sentiment that cannot help but occur to anyone who respects what was done by the men and women of 1916. When I was a teenager I was lucky to have known some of the then quite elderly men who had fought in 16 and then in the War of Independence. It left me with lifelong respect for all of them. They were a fine generation.

Here's yesterday's editorial from the Irish Times. Not that the IT has anything to crow about as regards supporting either 1916 or Irish nationalism generally but the sentiment is certainly worth a read.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2010/1118/1224283626246.html?via=mr

Not sure if many realise that the "was it for this" expression is a borrowing from one of Yeats' poems. It's from September 1913 and certainly the sentiment can be applied to our time.

Was it for this the wild geese spread
The grey wing upon every tide;
For this that all that blood was shed,
For this Edward Fitzgerald died,
And Robert Emmet and Wolfe Tone,
All that delirium of the brave?
Romantic Ireland's dead and gone,
It's with O'Leary in the grave.

Qualitymark · 19-11-2010 9:26am

Come on, lads. We've come through worse before. If this leads to transparency - that we know how much and where the banks have lent; that we know how much property the members of the Dáil and Seanad own, and who lent them the money for it - it could improve our country.

And if it leads to a country with little difference between the incomes of the richest and the poorest, with justice and kindness between its citizens, better still.

It's up to us to make sure that these are the outcomes.

PatsytheNazi · 19-11-2010 3:35pm

AbuMedia wrote: »

Hi There,

Thanks to all for watching the show. The series will be released on DVD but not in time for Christmas. If you would like to pre-order a copy of the set you can send an email with your name, address and phone to 1916@abumedia.com, and we will contact you with details of the DVD release! Thanks for the support,

Abú Media

Excellent series, it must be one the best, if not indeed the best programmes ever made on Irish history. I enjoyed the one about Joseph Plunkett best. Eammon Ceannt was a tough nut, he was in the Dan Breen league of resilient fighters. Didn't know Tom Clarke was a Tyrone man. Thank God we have some people to counter the anti nationalist black porpaganda of Eoghan Harris, Conor Cruise O'Brien and the rest of the west Brit agenda.

MarchDub · 20-11-2010 2:20am

AbuMedia wrote: »

Hi There,

Thanks to all for watching the show. The series will be released on DVD but not in time for Christmas. If you would like to pre-order a copy of the set you can send an email with your name, address and phone to 1916@abumedia.com, and we will contact you with details of the DVD release! Thanks for the support,

Abú Media

Will the DVD go on general release - available in shops? Or only through your web site?

salutations · 20-11-2010 11:17pm

AbuMedia wrote: »

Hi There,

Thanks to all for watching the show. The series will be released on DVD but not in time for Christmas. If you would like to pre-order a copy of the set you can send an email with your name, address and phone to 1916@abumedia.com, and we will contact you with details of the DVD release! Thanks for the support,

Abú Media

@feelingstressed - The bandstand is in the Phoenix Park...near the Zoo and the Peoples park! Hope that clears it up for you

Id def be interested in this and if you could get onto RTE and try and get the Treaty for sale too. Id love to see this again

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