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04-08-2020, 09:36   #1
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Is sociology a real science?

My other half studied sociology up to a masters level, and maintains that it isn’t.
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04-08-2020, 10:11   #2
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I studied it for years, and yes it is.
It has been taken over by politics (even when I studied the subject it was extremely leftist).
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It's a proper, respectable discipline alright, but as Biko points out it's been largely railroaded by American-style "identity politics" buffa-biscuit.
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It's a social science, based on surveys and observations. Is it in the same league as astrophysics. No.
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I studied it for years, and yes it is.
It has been taken over by politics (even when I studied the subject it was extremely leftist).
She did use a lack of objectivity as her main argument, so I’m assuming that’s what she meant.
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It's a social science, based on surveys and observations. Is it in the same league as astrophysics. No.
There is a league of sciences?
What is top of these rankings?
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There is a league of sciences?
What is top of these rankings?

The Science of Literalism. Literally.

A graduate yourself, I imagine.
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Was always seen as an “easy” subject to take on for first year for anyone doing a “wishy-washy” Arts degree in UCD back in my day.

Has that changed at all?
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There is a league of sciences?
What is top of these rankings?
Yes.

Maths -> Physics -> the other phyiscal ones -> the social ones -> economics -> psychology
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She did use a lack of objectivity as her main argument, so I’m assuming that’s what she meant.

Your girlfriends opinion on whether it is or it isn’t science is hardly objective either, is it?

It’s one of the sciences alright, but like any discipline or subject, it’s corrupted by human influence.

It’s a well observed phenomenon btw since the inception of the social sciences. It’s only in recent decades however, ironically due to the rising popularity of the social sciences, that it’s become more noticeable -


The over-sampling of American college students may be skewing our understanding of human behavior, finds an analysis by researchers from the University of British Columbia. In a forthcoming issue of Brain and Behavioral Sciences, anthropologist Joe Henrich, PhD, and psychologists Steven Heine, PhD, and Ara Norenzayan, PhD, review the available database of comparative social and behavioral science studies. They found that people from Western, educated, industrialized, rich and democratic (WEIRD) societies — who represent as much as 80 percent of study participants, but only 12 percent of the world’s population — are not only unrepresentative of humans as a species, but on many measures they’re outliers.


Are your findings ‘WEIRD’?
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In some parts of the world yes. In Ireland with our class of academics, not so much. I'm sure we have one or two standouts in the field but we've some real time wasters too.
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There is a league of sciences?
What is top of these rankings?
Obviously maths.
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Obviously maths.
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Well, it's an 'ology', innit?
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https://xkcd.com/435/
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