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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,431 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    No picture as it’s too far offshore, but can currently see heavy load carrier vessel Xiang Yun Kou from the Louth / Meath coast right now. Not sure what she’s carrying (something tall) but nice to see something unusual here.


    Marine Traffic has destination as Las Palmas, perhaps some technical issue stopping them on route, some interesting photo's or previous cargos...

    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:554766/mmsi:413055620/imo:9483097/vessel:XIANG_YUN_KOU


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    No picture as it’s too far offshore, but can currently see heavy load carrier vessel Xiang Yun Kou from the Louth / Meath coast right now. Not sure what she’s carrying (something tall) but nice to see something unusual here.

    Heard her calling Carlingford CG yesterday requesting permission to anchor and Carlingford was lost for words. No one ever asks them for permission for anything. Didn't hear any reason being given for request.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    There she is now, Holy God.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,722 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    While were on the subject, here she is...

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Such a cool thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,722 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Wouldn't want to get T-Boned by this thing.....

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Savage looking yoke!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Like many things X-bow has been around before now albeit in a slightly different format and without the benefit of computer aided modelling.
    This is the Massena from the 1890's

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭thomil


    Ah yes, the Massena - that ship’s main defensive system was apparently to look so horrendous that any enemy range-finder optics would crack the moment they were aimed at the ship :pac:

    Seriously, watch Drachinifel’s video on French pre-dreadnoughts on YouTube. He goes into excruciating detail on how and why these ships turned out the way they did, all the while throwing tons of shade at them :D

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭dogmatix


    The French called this tactic “fierce face” – a ship so intimidating looking it would terrify their opponents before battle. Might have worked against some small Asian or Middle eastern force of the 19th century but against any modern navy of that age it would have had no effect at all. As for the pronounced bow – that might have been a ram. Ramming was seen as a viable tactic for ironclad ships for a few decades after the battle of Lissa.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭thomil


    And here I thought that the French designers just completely misunderstood their task to design an “offensive” ship ;)

    It’s interesting that many of the ram ships that came about as a result of the battle of Lissa actually ended up with a bit of a performance/fuel efficiency boost because the underwater ram had a similar effect to the bulbous bow on modern ships. As for Lissa itself, I always thought of that battle as “Trafalgar choreographed by Monty Python”

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    No picture as it’s too far offshore, but can currently see heavy load carrier vessel Xiang Yun Kou from the Louth / Meath coast right now. Not sure what she’s carrying (something tall) but nice to see something unusual here.

    Can now see Xiang He Kou in the same spot !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Reminders of a bygone era I stumbled upon:

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    I have travelled on the Marconi, and others.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    An eye on ship designs for the future.

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    EXOSKELETON STRUCTURE
    This structure is fitted outside the hull to provide the required longitudinal strength, rather than to rely, as all ships do, on the hull structure. This allows ocean going and river hulls to be lighter and in case of river hulls, also extremely low draught.

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    THE WINGED BOW
    This oceangoing vessel bow is claimed to reduce resistance of the hull resulting in either higher speed, or less power, fuel consumption and GHG emissions. It also reduces motions in waves, shown in testing and in operation to be 50 percent lower than conventional bow fitted hulls, and eliminating slamming, therefore making it possible to design a lighter structure. It also increases capacity of the hull or reduces it length and cost for given capacity.

    https://www.maritimejournal.com/news101/vessel-build-and-maintenance/ship-and-boatbuilding/patented-technologies-for-more-efficient-hullforms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Mr_A


    Didn't the Greeks used to stick those on their triremes?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    And wasnt the efficiency effect rediscovered after the ramming fad on the early ironclads?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭thomil


    Thargor wrote: »
    And wasnt the efficiency effect rediscovered after the ramming fad on the early ironclads?

    Exactly. Ramming came back into "naval fashion" after the battle of Lissa 1866, when the Austro-Hungarian Navy managed to beat the superior Italian Navy, not least due to ramming a number of Italian ships.

    With ram bows becoming a feature on pretty much every pre-dreadnought, it was noticed at some point in the late 1880s and 1890s that ships with a ram bow, particularly those with a submerged ram bow, were able to slightly exceed their calculated top speeds, or use less coal at lower speeds due to the same effect that would later give rise to the bulbous bow. At the same time, a comparison became more practical, as some navies began dropping their ram bows from their later designs as engagement ranges began to increase, resulting in a number of straight bow ships.

    The first actual bulbous bow designed specifically to reduce drag was actually installed on the battleship USS Delaware which was launched in 1910, though it would take until 1935 and the french liner Normandie, or possibly even later with the Yamato class and Iowa class battleships for the concept to really take hold in naval design.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Hull speed is roughly 1.34 x the square root of waterline length, I worked on a trawler that would steam at 12kts but when loaded with 120t of fish would do about 13.5 due to the increased waterline length.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    Hull speed is roughly 1.34 x the square root of waterline length, I worked on a trawler that would steam at 12kts but when loaded with 120t of fish would do about 13.5 due to the increased waterline length.

    Seems odd that an engine operating at the same RPM would go faster when 120t of weight is added to the boat and she sits lower in the water as a result. I get the hull speed equation, but the increased weight of the boat would have cancelled any hull speed increase, I would have thought.

    The story sounds a bit, ahem, fishy... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Once you get a large mass moving, it takes no more power to keep it moving than a lesser mass, all else being equal, like wetted hull area and friction.

    So it's perfectly reasonable to believe a loaded vessel with an increased water line could go faster.

    A surface vessel is limited in top speed by the length of the 'wave' trough it sits in. The same length and mass vessel, if turned into a submarine and fully submerged, isn't 'trapped' by this trough and can attain a far higher top speed as it's no longer limited by the length of it's trough. A Soviet K - 222 Papa Class Submarine supposedly could reach almost 45 knots.

    In an ideal world, all the worlds sea freight would travel in giant submarines and shipping times would be halved.

    A surface vessel can go faster than it's trough limit if it has a large power to weight ratio and a design that allows it to escape the trough and plane along the surface rather than sit in it's trough.

    In my youth, I had cause to read some chapters from the book: Aero-Hydrodynamics of Sailing by C. A. Marchaj.

    One of my madder ideas at the time was to wonder if you could use a kite to power a sailboard. Silly idea, it would never work.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Once you get a large mass moving, it takes no more power to keep it moving than a lesser mass, all else being equal, like wetted hull area and friction.

    So it's perfectly reasonable to believe a loaded vessel with an increased water line could go faster.

    That seems reasonable and correct if we consider something like a freight train which, once it gets up to speed, is able to maintain the speed for the same power output.

    A hull in water is a very different environment and the varying resistance created by waves and swell alone would likely also against any increase in hull length due to the vessel being lower in the water. The hull length isn't just increased, but also the width/beam, so the block coefficient is also greater.

    Back to the example of the loaded fishing vessel given above. For the maths to work on the speed increase given, the change in length would have to go from 80ft to 100ft. No fishing boat increases in length by 20% once fully loaded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    That seems reasonable and correct if we consider something like a freight train which, once it gets up to speed, is able to maintain the speed for the same power output.

    A hull in water is a very different environment and the varying resistance created by waves and swell alone would likely also against any increase in hull length due to the vessel being lower in the water. The hull length isn't just increased, but also the width/beam, so the block coefficient is also greater.

    Back to the example of the loaded fishing vessel given above. For the maths to work on the speed increase given, the change in length would have to go from 80ft to 100ft. No fishing boat increases in length by 20% once fully loaded.

    Reality always wins over theory.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    There she is now, Holy God.

    Seems to be still there, after all this time. Although her destination has changed from Las Palmas (a common bunkering location for big ships) to a Chinese port. Seems very odd (and expensive for the charterers)?

    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:3982720/mmsi:477810700/imo:9752656/vessel:XIANG_HE_KOU


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Seems to be still there, after all this time. Although her destination has changed from Las Palmas (a common bunkering location for big ships) to a Chinese port. Seems very odd (and expensive for the charterers)?

    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:3982720/mmsi:477810700/imo:9752656/vessel:XIANG_HE_KOU

    I understand this is a sister ship or else a return leg from las palmas, as she had an oil rig on her a few weeks back when anchored there and now it either has wind turbines or oil drilling equipment (something very tall but too far out to see clearly). Massive swells in the Atlantic this week so maybe just taking shelter? Cool nonetheless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Flying Dutchman 'Fata Morgana' mirage spotted off the Cork Coast:

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    https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/bizarre-picture-shows-floating-ship-19235228


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    The new ferry for the Aran Islands being delivered a couple of days ago.

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    You can see another boat on board too. I love the idea of a ship sailing around the world delivering other boats.

    It had an interesting route too, it departed from Hong but didnt go through the Suez canal, instead it went around the Cape and then it appears to have headed for a stop in Venezuela before heading to Galway. I would guess the Venezuela stop might have been just for fuel, years ago I got on a yacht from Isla de Margherita just offshore from Venezuela and up through the Leeward Islands of the Caribbean. The skipper had sailed all the way down to Venezuela to buy 1,000 litres of fuel because at the time you could get a litre for 3 cents, I kid you not. The port was full of lots of yachties who spent the season in the Caribbean were doing the same, they would head south from St Lucia, Martinque, Guadeloupe, etc on a four day round trip down to Venezuela to fill up with the 3 cents a litre diesel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,722 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    I love the idea of a ship sailing around the world delivering other boats.

    Ship shipping ships


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,574 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Thargor wrote: »
    Flying Dutchman 'Fata Morgana' mirage spotted off the Cork Coast:

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    https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/bizarre-picture-shows-floating-ship-19235228

    That's amazing ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    The new ferry for the Aran Islands being delivered a couple of days ago.

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    0015a2e0-614.jpg?ratio=1.78

    You can see another boat on board too. I love the idea of a ship sailing around the world delivering other boats.

    It had an interesting route too, it departed from Hong but didnt go through the Suez canal, instead it went around the Cape and then it appears to have headed for a stop in Venezuela before heading to Galway. I would guess the Venezuela stop might have been just for fuel, years ago I got on a yacht from Isla de Margherita just offshore from Venezuela and up through the Leeward Islands of the Caribbean. The skipper had sailed all the way down to Venezuela to buy 1,000 litres of fuel because at the time you could get a litre for 3 cents, I kid you not. The port was full of lots of yachties who spent the season in the Caribbean were doing the same, they would head south from St Lucia, Martinque, Guadeloupe, etc on a four day round trip down to Venezuela to fill up with the 3 cents a litre diesel.

    It left Hong Cong and travelled to Vietnam it was at anchor there for a few days waiting for a berth, it then headed to Durban in South Africa and then headed to Belem in Brazil before crossing the Atlantic to Galway, It left Galway on Sunday afternoon and is now in Holland


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Inis Alah


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    It left Hong Cong and travelled to Vietnam it was at anchor there for a few days waiting for a berth, it then headed to Durban in South Africa and then headed to Belem in Brazil before crossing the Atlantic to Galway, It left Galway on Sunday afternoon and is now in Holland

    Still a shorter journey than both of her sisters, The Draoicht and the Ceol were both shipped from Perth in 99 and 01 respectively. I was surprised to see this one in the hold. Both of the others were deck cargo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Two ferries from Aran Direct Ferries that went into liquidation a few years ago they were loaded in Galway Port for the South Pacific.

    Lots of pics of that loading operation in Galway here

    http://galwayships.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=11


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Inis Alah


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Two ferries from Aran Direct Ferries that went into liquidation a few years ago they were loaded in Galway Port for the South Pacific.

    Lots of pics of that loading operation in Galway here

    Loading "operations", the first attempt (or second if you consider the first HLV that grounded in Ros a Mhíl" didn't go exacty according to plan as you can see in that photo album.

    Both of them are still going strong in running between Mayotte and Comoros islands, NW of Madagascar in the Indian ocean.

    www DOT sgtm DOT com/fr/nos-traversees/navires/66-le-citadelle DOT html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Inis Alah wrote: »
    Loading "operations", the first attempt (or second if you consider the first HLV that grounded in Ros a Mhíl" didn't go exacty according to plan as you can see in that photo album.

    Both of them are still going strong in running between Mayotte and Comoros islands, NW of Madagascar in the Indian ocean.

    www DOT sgtm DOT com/fr/nos-traversees/navires/66-le-citadelle DOT html

    I went out to Rossaveal to see the Pantanal when she arrived, storm blew up that night and she dragged her anchors and went aground, Tug Celtic Isle towed her off the rocks and she anchored off Salthill where divers inspected her hull for damage before heading off for repairs, It was sad to see the two Ferries going away they were fast and nice inside and owned by a lovely family.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Less chat, more porn!

    Viking Grace aground in Finland last weekend. It's though the wind broadside was too strong, and the channel too narrow for her engines and thrusters to keep her in deep water. No injuries and no leaks.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    Lads I'm looking for a free app like vessel finder free .. but now that needs a subscription of around 1k per year I thought that was a great app


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Flipperdipper




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    Tks if I pay the 5 euro is it worth it I'm in the snow. Esturary see a lot of ships so just like knowing where they go etc especially the oil rig tugs


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Inis Alah


    lab man wrote: »
    Tks if I pay the 5 euro is it worth it I'm in the snow. Esturary see a lot of ships so just like knowing where they go etc especially the oil rig tugs

    In Ireland i always found MarineTraffic the best and worth the small subscription, some areas used to be not 100% covered as they didn't have hosts but it seems to be perfect now.

    Marine traffic has the added bonus of a lot of people uploading pics of the vessels.


  • Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭Sultan_of_Ping


    From the Boyne on Sunday (Pilot departing the LPG Tanker "Sefarina")

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Lovely photo from Rosslare:

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    Source: The Coffee Dock Facebook page.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


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    Pride of Burgundy anchored up in a quiet river in Cornwall due to lack of work with Brexit and Covid19.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,574 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Tabnabs wrote: »
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    Pride of Burgundy anchored up in a quiet river in Cornwall due to lack of work with Brexit and Covid19.

    Is that by the "king Harry ferry "? Surprised me a bit crossing the river ,and seeing a few big tankers just moored in the river , I hadn't realized I was even that close to the sea ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,067 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Tabnabs wrote: »
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    Pride of Burgundy anchored up in a quiet river in Cornwall due to lack of work with Brexit and Covid19.

    Looks like she could do with a lick of paint and power washer


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    She's an old girl now, next stop the beach in Turkey...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    neris wrote: »
    Looks like she could do with a lick of paint and power washer

    She's up for sale/disposal. Ex Dover-Calais ferries struggle to find buyers in the lower end of the ferry market due to having few cabins and particularly the lack of ramps which is an expensive retrofit.

    Pride of Dover/Calais went straight to the scrappers at 26 years of age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Must be a lot of ships and planes parked up.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3olufdaDrY&ab_channel=AQUAHOLIC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,431 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    beauf wrote: »
    Must be a lot of ships and planes parked up.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3olufdaDrY&ab_channel=AQUAHOLIC


    Looks to be lots of ongoing maintenance on them, you can see the Queen Mary 2 has lots of patches of fresh paint on the hull. I suppose they are all sitting idle now for nearly a year, no point in fully dry docking until they know travel restrictions are lifted.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The 71.50m Project 819 leaving the shipyard for final outfitting in advance of her sea trials.

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    https://www.yachtharbour.com/news/photo-of-the-day--feadship-project-819-on-her-way-to-the-north-sea-4387


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Norwegian Research Vessel Dr Fridtjof Nansen

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Norwegian Research Vessel Dr Fridtjof Nansen

    I was on the previous ship the G.O. Sars, that was pretty plush, I wonder what the facilities are like on the new one.
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